[arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM

Mon Oct 15 11:47:08 EDT 2018

The first issue was being solicited for votes.

The second real issue is the 50+ posts about the first non issue.  This is
what's annoying to me and many others in this list/thread.

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On Mon, Oct 15, 2018, 11:42 AM Michael Zindel
<michael.zindel at libertybroadband.site> wrote:

> I'm puzzled by how many people aren't interested in the goings-on of ARIN
> and refer to it as spam.
>
> On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 6:35 AM Mike Hammett <mike.hammett at ics-il.com>
> wrote:
>
>> You're not. It's a figment of your imagination.
>>
>>
>>
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>> *From: *"John Ajjarapu" <John.Ajjarapu at ironmountain.com>
>> *To: *"Martin Hannigan" <hannigan at gmail.com>
>> *Cc: *arin-discuss at arin.net
>> *Sent: *Monday, October 15, 2018 5:11:11 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM
>>
>> Why am I getting these SPAM????
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 15, 2018, at 4:41 AM, Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Note: Apologies if anyone doesn't want to discuss this on arin-discuss. I
>> always assumed this list was intended for relevant discussions about ARIN
>> with "PPML" being for policy discussions. As Rodney Joffe pointed out,
>> there is a URL to a working unsubscribe function at the bottom of all ARIN
>> lists AFAIK if this is problematic for anyone.The list is also tagged in
>> the subject. It is quite easy to filter for later reading comfort. It is a
>> nice way to approach any mailbox organization.
>>
>> While I have preferences for voting as an impact to the policy aspect and
>> overall public interest in ARIN, I am not a DMR. My voting views are not
>> relevant to the issue at hand. If there is one. Did I receive actual
>> unsolicited commercial email "UCE"? I don't have a direct relationship with
>> the sender. They weren't asking me for money or selling me anything other
>> than themselves. On one hand, someone running for election seems to have a
>> right per VA corporate law to access information identifying voters. On the
>> other, I am not the DMR for any company at the moment. I don't speak for
>> one either. My interest is solely as an internet citizen. Seems like a grey
>> area with ARIN being between the rock and the hard place more than
>> anything.
>>
>> \While in the era of Green Card Lawyers this would have been horrific,
>> today it is not. It is 2018.I don't like spam in the traditional sense, but
>> I am over it in the general sense. Spam filters, both automated and
>> personally configured do well enough. Spam is never going away as long as
>> there is anyone alive willing to send money to $scammer. I'll leave it to
>> the pros and each individual as to what they think it is. For me, this
>> isn't a really a debate about spam.H owever, I do think their is an issue
>> for ARIN to consider for next time. Is email considered PII? What affect,
>> if any, does that have on the required disclosure?
>>
>>
>> https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/Legacy/SP/nistspecialpublication800-122.pdf
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nvlpubs.nist.gov_nistpubs_Legacy_SP_nistspecialpublication800-2D122.pdf&d=DwMFaQ&c=Ro8Q4dnX1SNK_vCgNOhSveITMHXvJUsDIFqhHVlop24&r=_XUfmYZDwwobyZKwc42FnWWoVpR9ht7UoXYluNI9XQE&m=lAzX0_tsVRlZG8CXb4UlMVi4p1K_bcK3G84CAULtack&s=BZ_JKB-rWbmvbqcMfzA7JpXhoFH0Akc04b41q2GY8IE&e=>
>> https://www.dol.gov/general/ppii
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dol.gov_general_ppii&d=DwMFaQ&c=Ro8Q4dnX1SNK_vCgNOhSveITMHXvJUsDIFqhHVlop24&r=_XUfmYZDwwobyZKwc42FnWWoVpR9ht7UoXYluNI9XQE&m=lAzX0_tsVRlZG8CXb4UlMVi4p1K_bcK3G84CAULtack&s=3gjhzESWMu7-ICUNa0XC5n1qvhs9yIixAC4AYKODu3A&e=>
>>
>> I doubt that my information was shared by ARIN, but it is possible. If it
>> were, I'd be surprised as only DMRs have votes and while others may be
>> listed in the ARIN database, they may not be entirely relevant to the
>> statute. So was it spam? I don't know, but I'm not putting any more cycles
>> into thinking about it.
>>
>> Food for though. For next time. $0.02
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> -M<
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 8:37 PM Arik Next <arik at nextcommunications.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Right who do you want us to vote for ? All that emails and at the end
>>> the candidate remain unknown ? This is really disturbing.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Oct 14, 2018, at 5:32 PM, Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For me, it was Peter Harrison.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> -M<
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 17:54 Bill Woodcock <woody at pch.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Oct 10, 2018 17:33, Clayton Zekelman <clayton at MNSi.Net> wrote:
>>>> > I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else
>>>> > receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board
>>>> > position this week?
>>>> > It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record.
>>>>
>>>> Well, this seems like as good a place as any to bring it up.
>>>>
>>>> You may as well say which candidate it was from.
>>>>
>>>>                                 -Bill
>>>>
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