[arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM

Ryan Root rroot at rootautomation.com
Wed Oct 10 21:59:41 EDT 2018

Thankfully I haven't received any solicitations to vote at all.  Those of you who have, have you double checked the headers to make sure the person is actually sending the emails? If I were him/her I'd speak up on this discuss email venue ASAP if I hadn't approved it.  I'm sure many wont cite for them whoever they are without clarity.  I would be interesting to investigate who did and didn't get the emails and if the votes are actuly fairly calculated.  I wonder if those who got them spams votes are considered more important than others if not by ARIN for some other reason.
Nonetheless, I kind of concur. Unless this becomes productive in gathering facts I'm probably going to unsubscribe too.

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-------- Original message --------From: Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com> Date: 10/10/18  6:34 PM  (GMT-08:00) To: Emill Buitrago <Emill.Buitrago at alticeusa.com> Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM 

This is what discuss is for. 
Do you know why I asked Bill for his opinion? Its relevant. Lecturing is a bit more spammy IMHO. Food for thought. 
Best Regards, 

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 21:27 Emill Buitrago <Emill.Buitrago at alticeusa.com> wrote:

The distribution here is bigger than just a handful of people. Please refrain from spamming us all

Emill Buitrago


emill.buitrago at alticeusa.com

From: ARIN-discuss <arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net> on behalf of Ted Grandpre <tedg at truenorthitg.com>

Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 9:25:52 PM

To: Martin Hannigan; arin-discuss at arin.net

Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM

From: ARIN-discuss <arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net> 
On Behalf Of Martin Hannigan

Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 6:18 PM

To: arin-discuss at arin.net

Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM

Bill Sandiford! What do you think? :-)







On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 21:14 John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:

On 10 Oct 2018, at 5:33 PM, Clayton Zekelman <clayton at MNSi.Net> wrote:


> Hello,


> I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board position this week?


> It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record.

Folks - 

In accordance with the Virginia nonstock corporation act, ARIN makes available online for inspection the list of eligible voters for its annual election.  That list includes both the organization name and the organization’s postal address (note that we do not
 provide email contact information or telephone numbers as part of this list.)

ARIN’s election procedures do not constrain candidates from promotion of any form; this has been discussed with the Board in the past with the result being that it is best left to the judgement of each voter what constitutes useful and informative information
 versus an undesired appeal for support.

There are many ways that the eligible voter list can be reconciled with the related e-mail addresses, and this does include potentially use of ARIN’s Whois and Bulk Whois services. Our present terms of use for those Whois services do not specifically mention
 use related to ARIN election purposes, and as such an it is possible to argue either side of the usage being permissible or impermissible. 

I am aware of candidate email campaigns occurring in several of the past years, and this year appears to be no different.  I would ask that for the time being, folks consider such emails as one more additional encouragement to vote (if you have not already). 
  Once this election is complete, we can then enjoy a discussion of whether any changes to our Whois terms of use (or our election processes in general) is warranted in this regard.

Thanks! (and again - remember to vote!)


John Curran

President and CEO

American Registry for Internet Numbers



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