From clayton at MNSi.Net Wed Oct 10 17:33:10 2018 From: clayton at MNSi.Net (Clayton Zekelman) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 17:33:10 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM Message-ID: <1539207194_251921@surgemail.mnsi.net> Hello, I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board position this week? It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. Clayton -- Clayton Zekelman Managed Network Systems Inc. (MNSi) 3363 Tecumseh Rd. E Windsor, Ontario N8W 1H4 tel. 519-985-8410 fax. 519-985-8409 From matt at reenigne.net Wed Oct 10 17:36:49 2018 From: matt at reenigne.net (matt at reenigne.net) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 17:36:49 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: <1539207194_251921@surgemail.mnsi.net> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rcarpen at network1.net Wed Oct 10 17:40:24 2018 From: rcarpen at network1.net (Randy Carpenter) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 17:40:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2001919160.861257.1539207624961.JavaMail.zimbra@network1.net> Same here and I think it should disqualify them :-P -Randy ----- On Oct 10, 2018, at 5:36 PM, wrote: > I have received several. I think this happened last year as well. > Thanks, > Matt > On Oct 10, 2018 17:33, Clayton Zekelman wrote: >> Hello, >> I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else >> receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board >> position this week? >> It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. >> Clayton >> -- >> Clayton Zekelman >> Managed Network Systems Inc. (MNSi) >> 3363 Tecumseh Rd. E >> Windsor, Ontario >> N8W 1H4 >> tel. 519-985-8410 >> fax. 519-985-8409 >> _______________________________________________ >> ARIN-Discuss >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From glopez at fastcloudpr.com Wed Oct 10 17:45:12 2018 From: glopez at fastcloudpr.com (Gilberto Lopez) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 17:45:12 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It is politics after all?. - Gil ______________________________________ Gilberto L?pez-Padr? - President fastCLOUD, Inc. B5 Tabonuco Ste 216 PMB 202, Guaynabo, PR 00968 glopez at fastcloudpr.com - (787) 553-7887 www.fastcloudpr.com - (787) 706-0500 > On Oct 10, 2018, at 5:36 PM, matt at reenigne.net wrote: > > I have received several. I think this happened last year as well. > > Thanks, > Matt > > > On Oct 10, 2018 17:33, Clayton Zekelman wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else > receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board > position this week? > > It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. > > Clayton > > > -- > > Clayton Zekelman > Managed Network Systems Inc. (MNSi) > 3363 Tecumseh Rd. E > Windsor, Ontario > N8W 1H4 > > tel. 519-985-8410 > fax. 519-985-8409 > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rgiles at networktransit.net Wed Oct 10 17:50:44 2018 From: rgiles at networktransit.net (Rodney Giles) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 16:50:44 -0500 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: maga! make arin great again! On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 4:45 PM Gilberto Lopez wrote: > It is politics after all?. > > > - Gil > > ______________________________________ > Gilberto L?pez-Padr? - President > > *fast**CLOUD, Inc. * > B5 Tabonuco Ste 216 PMB 202, > Guaynabo, PR 00968 > > glopez at fastcloudpr.com - (787) 553-7887 > www.fastcloudpr.com - (787) 706-0500 > > > > > > > > On Oct 10, 2018, at 5:36 PM, matt at reenigne.net wrote: > > I have received several. I think this happened last year as well. > > Thanks, > Matt > > > On Oct 10, 2018 17:33, Clayton Zekelman wrote: > > > Hello, > > I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else > receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board > position this week? > > It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. > > Clayton > > > -- > > Clayton Zekelman > Managed Network Systems Inc. (MNSi) > 3363 Tecumseh Rd. E > Windsor, Ontario > N8W 1H4 > > tel. 519-985-8410 > fax. 519-985-8409 > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From woody at pch.net Wed Oct 10 17:52:21 2018 From: woody at pch.net (Bill Woodcock) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 14:52:21 -0700 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2556D5F6-42E7-4DDF-A15D-2D5E2761B7DB@pch.net> On Oct 10, 2018 17:33, Clayton Zekelman wrote: > I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else > receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board > position this week? > It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. Well, this seems like as good a place as any to bring it up. You may as well say which candidate it was from. -Bill -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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B5 Tabonuco Ste 216 PMB 202, Guaynabo, PR 00968 glopez at fastcloudpr.com - (787) 553-7887 www.fastcloudpr.com - (787) 706-0500 On Oct 10, 2018, at 5:36 PM, matt at reenigne.net wrote: I have received several. I think this happened last year as well. Thanks, Matt On Oct 10, 2018 17:33, Clayton Zekelman > wrote: Hello, I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board position this week? It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. Clayton -- Clayton Zekelman Managed Network Systems Inc. (MNSi) 3363 Tecumseh Rd. E Windsor, Ontario N8W 1H4 tel. 519-985-8410 fax. 519-985-8409 _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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URL: From Michael.Scott at techelectronics.com Wed Oct 10 17:53:32 2018 From: Michael.Scott at techelectronics.com (Scott, Michael) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 21:53:32 +0000 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: <16a32ff4eacc41ad950dbb850832bcb9@techelectronics.com> Haha--that was funny! Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Rodney Giles Date: 10/10/18 4:52 PM (GMT-06:00) To: glopez at fastcloudpr.com Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM maga! make arin great again! On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 4:45 PM Gilberto Lopez > wrote: It is politics after all?. - Gil ______________________________________ Gilberto L?pez-Padr? - President fastCLOUD, Inc. B5 Tabonuco Ste 216 PMB 202, Guaynabo, PR 00968 glopez at fastcloudpr.com - (787) 553-7887 www.fastcloudpr.com - (787) 706-0500 On Oct 10, 2018, at 5:36 PM, matt at reenigne.net wrote: I have received several. I think this happened last year as well. Thanks, Matt On Oct 10, 2018 17:33, Clayton Zekelman > wrote: Hello, I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board position this week? It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. Clayton -- Clayton Zekelman Managed Network Systems Inc. (MNSi) 3363 Tecumseh Rd. E Windsor, Ontario N8W 1H4 tel. 519-985-8410 fax. 519-985-8409 _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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URL: From aseelye at eltopia.com Wed Oct 10 17:54:58 2018 From: aseelye at eltopia.com (Aaron Seelye) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 14:54:58 -0700 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <32694af2-8cad-4c14-78e9-eb52304fbd83@eltopia.com> Can't wait for "independent" AAC (ARIN Action Committees) to start false-flag spamming on their competitors' behalves... On 10/10/18 2:45 PM, Gilberto Lopez wrote: > It is politics after all?. > > > - Gil > > ______________________________________ > Gilberto L?pez-Padr?- President > */fast/**CLOUD,Inc.* > B5 Tabonuco Ste 216 PMB 202, > ? ? Guaynabo, PR 00968 > > glopez at fastcloudpr.com ?- ?(787) 553-7887 > www.fastcloudpr.com ? ? ?- ?(787) 706-0500 > > > > > > > >> On Oct 10, 2018, at 5:36 PM, matt at reenigne.net >> wrote: >> >> I have received several. I think this happened last year as well. >> >> Thanks, >> Matt >> >> >> On Oct 10, 2018 17:33, Clayton Zekelman > > wrote: >> >> >> Hello, >> >> I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone >> else >> receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board >> position this week? >> >> It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. >> >> Clayton >> >> >> -- >> >> Clayton Zekelman >> Managed Network Systems Inc. (MNSi) >> 3363 Tecumseh Rd. E >> Windsor, Ontario >> N8W 1H4 >> >> tel. 519-985-8410 >> fax. 519-985-8409 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ARIN-Discuss >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net >> ). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >> Please contact info at arin.net if you >> experience any issues. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ARIN-Discuss >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net >> ). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From David at nettechsc.com Wed Oct 10 19:34:16 2018 From: David at nettechsc.com (David Collier) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 23:34:16 +0000 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: <16a32ff4eacc41ad950dbb850832bcb9@techelectronics.com> References: , , <16a32ff4eacc41ad950dbb850832bcb9@techelectronics.com> Message-ID: <52711192-FB8B-4E9A-9D50-7E510525612D@nettechsc.com> Nice!! Sent from my IPhone On Oct 10, 2018, at 6:00 PM, Scott, Michael via ARIN-discuss > wrote: Haha--that was funny! Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Rodney Giles > Date: 10/10/18 4:52 PM (GMT-06:00) To: glopez at fastcloudpr.com Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM maga! make arin great again! On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 4:45 PM Gilberto Lopez > wrote: It is politics after all?. - Gil ______________________________________ Gilberto L?pez-Padr? - President fastCLOUD, Inc. B5 Tabonuco Ste 216 PMB 202, Guaynabo, PR 00968 glopez at fastcloudpr.com - (787) 553-7887 www.fastcloudpr.com - (787) 706-0500 On Oct 10, 2018, at 5:36 PM, matt at reenigne.net wrote: I have received several. I think this happened last year as well. Thanks, Matt On Oct 10, 2018 17:33, Clayton Zekelman > wrote: Hello, I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board position this week? It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. Clayton -- Clayton Zekelman Managed Network Systems Inc. (MNSi) 3363 Tecumseh Rd. E Windsor, Ontario N8W 1H4 tel. 519-985-8410 fax. 519-985-8409 _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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URL: From brock.courneya at xnstg.com Wed Oct 10 19:49:08 2018 From: brock.courneya at xnstg.com (Brock Courneya) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 16:49:08 -0700 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: <52711192-FB8B-4E9A-9D50-7E510525612D@nettechsc.com> References: <16a32ff4eacc41ad950dbb850832bcb9@techelectronics.com> <52711192-FB8B-4E9A-9D50-7E510525612D@nettechsc.com> Message-ID: ARIN-gate > On Oct 10, 2018, at 4:34 PM, David Collier wrote: > > Nice!! > > > > Sent from my IPhone > > On Oct 10, 2018, at 6:00 PM, Scott, Michael via ARIN-discuss wrote: > >> Haha--that was funny! >> >> >> >> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: Rodney Giles >> Date: 10/10/18 4:52 PM (GMT-06:00) >> To: glopez at fastcloudpr.com >> Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net >> Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM >> >> maga! make arin great again! >> >>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 4:45 PM Gilberto Lopez wrote: >>> It is politics after all?. >>> >>> >>> - Gil >>> >>> ______________________________________ >>> Gilberto L?pez-Padr? - President >>> >>> fastCLOUD, Inc. >>> B5 Tabonuco Ste 216 PMB 202, >>> Guaynabo, PR 00968 >>> >>> glopez at fastcloudpr.com - (787) 553-7887 >>> www.fastcloudpr.com - (787) 706-0500 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Oct 10, 2018, at 5:36 PM, matt at reenigne.net wrote: >>>> >>>> I have received several. I think this happened last year as well. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Matt >>>> >>>> >>>> On Oct 10, 2018 17:33, Clayton Zekelman wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else >>>> receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board >>>> position this week? >>>> >>>> It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. >>>> >>>> Clayton >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Clayton Zekelman >>>> Managed Network Systems Inc. (MNSi) >>>> 3363 Tecumseh Rd. E >>>> Windsor, Ontario >>>> N8W 1H4 >>>> >>>> tel. 519-985-8410 >>>> fax. 519-985-8409 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> ARIN-Discuss >>>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >>>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> ARIN-Discuss >>>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >>>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ARIN-Discuss >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >> >> >> The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications >> Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which >> it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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URL: From tfitts at spryservers.net Wed Oct 10 20:44:00 2018 From: tfitts at spryservers.net (Tab Fitts) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 17:44:00 -0700 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: References: <16a32ff4eacc41ad950dbb850832bcb9@techelectronics.com> <52711192-FB8B-4E9A-9D50-7E510525612D@nettechsc.com> Message-ID: <16660948c80.278b.607d5cb39d873bb130d962dfadfd0aba@spryservers.net> Lmao. I don't think I've gotten spam from candidates, but ARIN has been calling and emailing me telling me not to forget to vote. Tab Fitts Founder/CEO Spry Servers, LLC On October 10, 2018 4:50:00 PM Brock Courneya wrote: > ARIN-gate > > > On Oct 10, 2018, at 4:34 PM, David Collier wrote: > >> Nice!! >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my IPhone >> On Oct 10, 2018, at 6:00 PM, Scott, Michael via ARIN-discuss >> wrote: >> >>> Haha--that was funny! >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone >>> >>> >>> -------- Original message -------- >>> From: Rodney Giles >>> Date: 10/10/18 4:52 PM (GMT-06:00) >>> To: glopez at fastcloudpr.com >>> Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net >>> Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM >>> >>> maga! make arin great again! >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 4:45 PM Gilberto Lopez wrote: >>> It is politics after all?. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> - Gil >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________ >>> Gilberto L?pez-Padr? - President >>> >>> fastCLOUD, Inc. >>> B5 Tabonuco Ste 216 PMB 202, >>> Guaynabo, PR 00968 >>> >>> >>> >>> glopez at fastcloudpr.com - (787) 553-7887 >>> >>> www.fastcloudpr.com - (787) 706-0500 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Oct 10, 2018, at 5:36 PM, >>>> matt at reenigne.net wrote: >>>> >>>> I have received several. I think this happened last year as well. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Matt >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Oct 10, 2018 17:33, Clayton Zekelman wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else >>>> receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board >>>> position this week? >>>> >>>> It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. >>>> >>>> Clayton >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Clayton Zekelman >>>> Managed Network Systems Inc. (MNSi) >>>> 3363 Tecumseh Rd. E >>>> Windsor, Ontario >>>> N8W 1H4 >>>> >>>> tel. 519-985-8410 >>>> fax. 519-985-8409 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> ARIN-Discuss >>>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >>>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> ARIN-Discuss >>>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >>>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ARIN-Discuss >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >>> >>> >>> The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the >>> Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended >>> only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may >>> contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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URL: From chris at ykwc.com Wed Oct 10 20:49:27 2018 From: chris at ykwc.com (Chris Cappuccio) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 17:49:27 -0700 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: <16660948c80.278b.607d5cb39d873bb130d962dfadfd0aba@spryservers.net> References: <16a32ff4eacc41ad950dbb850832bcb9@techelectronics.com> <52711192-FB8B-4E9A-9D50-7E510525612D@nettechsc.com> <16660948c80.278b.607d5cb39d873bb130d962dfadfd0aba@spryservers.net> Message-ID: <5b9842a1-2785-cf65-4303-daa9c86e62b9@ykwc.com> Vote for me and I'll get you into the Knights of Columbus. On 10/10/18 17:44, Tab Fitts wrote: > Lmao. > > I don't think I've gotten spam from candidates, but ARIN has been > calling and emailing me telling me not to forget to vote. > > Tab Fitts > Founder/CEO > Spry Servers, LLC > > On October 10, 2018 4:50:00 PM Brock Courneya > wrote: > >> ARIN-gate >> >> On Oct 10, 2018, at 4:34 PM, David Collier > > wrote: >> >>> Nice!! >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my IPhone >>> >>> On Oct 10, 2018, at 6:00 PM, Scott, Michael via ARIN-discuss >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> Haha--that was funny! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone >>>> >>>> >>>> -------- Original message -------- >>>> From: Rodney Giles >>> > >>>> Date: 10/10/18 4:52 PM (GMT-06:00) >>>> To: glopez at fastcloudpr.com >>>> Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net >>>> Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM >>>> >>>> maga! make arin?great again! >>>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 4:45 PM Gilberto Lopez >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> It is politics after all?. >>>> >>>> >>>> - Gil >>>> >>>> ______________________________________ >>>> Gilberto L?pez-Padr?- President >>>> */fast/**CLOUD,Inc.* >>>> B5 Tabonuco Ste 216 PMB 202, >>>> ? Guaynabo, PR 00968 >>>> >>>> glopez at fastcloudpr.com ?- >>>> ?(787) 553-7887 >>>> www.fastcloudpr.com ? ? ? ?- >>>> ?(787) 706-0500 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Oct 10, 2018, at 5:36 PM, matt at reenigne.net >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I have received several. I think this happened last year as well. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Matt >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 10, 2018 17:33, Clayton Zekelman >>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did >>>>> anyone else >>>>> receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an >>>>> ARIN board >>>>> position this week? >>>>> >>>>> It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my >>>>> POC record. >>>>> >>>>> Clayton >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Clayton Zekelman >>>>> Managed Network Systems Inc. (MNSi) >>>>> 3363 Tecumseh Rd. E >>>>> Windsor, Ontario >>>>> N8W 1H4 >>>>> >>>>> tel. 519-985-8410 >>>>> fax. 519-985-8409 >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> ARIN-Discuss >>>>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>>>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net >>>>> ). >>>>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>>>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>>>> Please contact info at arin.net if you >>>>> experience any issues. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> ARIN-Discuss >>>>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>>>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net >>>>> ). >>>>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>>>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>>>> Please contact info at arin.net if you >>>>> experience any issues. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> ARIN-Discuss >>>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net >>>> ). >>>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>>> Please contact info at arin.net if you >>>> experience any issues. >>>> >>>> >>>> The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by >>>> the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is >>>> intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is >>>> addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. >>>> Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or >>>> taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons >>>> or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If >>>> you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete >>>> the material from any computer. 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URL: From jrpaz at quik.is Wed Oct 10 20:52:46 2018 From: jrpaz at quik.is (Jose Paz) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 20:52:46 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: <5b9842a1-2785-cf65-4303-daa9c86e62b9@ykwc.com> References: <16a32ff4eacc41ad950dbb850832bcb9@techelectronics.com> <52711192-FB8B-4E9A-9D50-7E510525612D@nettechsc.com> <16660948c80.278b.607d5cb39d873bb130d962dfadfd0aba@spryservers.net> <5b9842a1-2785-cf65-4303-daa9c86e62b9@ykwc.com> Message-ID: Won?t somebody please think of the children!!! On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 20:52 Chris Cappuccio wrote: > Vote for me and I'll get you into the Knights of Columbus. > > On 10/10/18 17:44, Tab Fitts wrote: > > Lmao. > > I don't think I've gotten spam from candidates, but ARIN has been calling > and emailing me telling me not to forget to vote. > > Tab Fitts > Founder/CEO > Spry Servers, LLC > > On October 10, 2018 4:50:00 PM Brock Courneya > wrote: > >> ARIN-gate >> >> On Oct 10, 2018, at 4:34 PM, David Collier wrote: >> >> Nice!! >> >> >> >> Sent from my IPhone >> >> On Oct 10, 2018, at 6:00 PM, Scott, Michael via ARIN-discuss < >> arin-discuss at arin.net> wrote: >> >> Haha--that was funny! >> >> >> >> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: Rodney Giles >> Date: 10/10/18 4:52 PM (GMT-06:00) >> To: glopez at fastcloudpr.com >> Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net >> Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM >> >> maga! make arin great again! >> >> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 4:45 PM Gilberto Lopez >> wrote: >> >>> It is politics after all?. >>> >>> >>> - Gil >>> >>> ______________________________________ >>> Gilberto L?pez-Padr? - President >>> >>> *fast**CLOUD, Inc. * >>> B5 Tabonuco Ste 216 PMB 202, >>> Guaynabo, PR 00968 >>> >>> glopez at fastcloudpr.com - (787) 553-7887 >>> www.fastcloudpr.com - (787) 706-0500 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 10, 2018, at 5:36 PM, matt at reenigne.net wrote: >>> >>> I have received several. I think this happened last year as well. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Matt >>> >>> >>> On Oct 10, 2018 17:33, Clayton Zekelman wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else >>> receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board >>> position this week? >>> >>> It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. >>> >>> Clayton >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Clayton Zekelman >>> Managed Network Systems Inc. (MNSi) >>> 3363 Tecumseh Rd. E >>> Windsor, Ontario >>> N8W 1H4 >>> >>> tel. 519-985-8410 >>> fax. 519-985-8409 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ARIN-Discuss >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ARIN-Discuss >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ARIN-Discuss >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >>> >> >> >> The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications >> Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which >> it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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Sent from my IPhone On Oct 10, 2018, at 6:00 PM, Scott, Michael via ARIN-discuss wrote: Haha--that was funny! Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Rodney Giles Date: 10/10/18 4:52 PM (GMT-06:00) To: glopez at fastcloudpr.com Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM maga! make arin?great again! On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 4:45 PM Gilberto Lopez wrote: It is politics after all?. - Gil? ______________________________________ ? ?Gilberto L?pez-Padr??-??President? ? ? ???fastCLOUD,?Inc.? ????B5 Tabonuco Ste 216 PMB 202,? ? ? Guaynabo, PR 00968 ? ? glopez at fastcloudpr.com ?- ?(787) 553-7887 ? ? www.fastcloudpr.com ? ? ? ?- ?(787) 706-0500 On Oct 10, 2018, at 5:36 PM, matt at reenigne.net wrote: I have received several. I think this happened last year as well.? Thanks, Matt On Oct 10, 2018 17:33, Clayton Zekelman wrote: Hello, I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board position this week? It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. Clayton -- Clayton Zekelman Managed Network Systems Inc. (MNSi) 3363 Tecumseh Rd. E Windsor, Ontario N8W 1H4 tel. 519-985-8410 fax. 519-985-8409??????? _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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URL: From walterbakerIII at psrinfo.com Wed Oct 10 21:09:20 2018 From: walterbakerIII at psrinfo.com (Walter Baker III) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 01:09:20 +0000 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: <20181011010257.0F30D106CAAF@smtp1.arin.net> References: , <20181011010257.0F30D106CAAF@smtp1.arin.net> Message-ID: [image1.jpeg] On Oct 10, 2018, at 9:03 PM, jpollard > wrote: Vote for Pedro! Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Jose Paz > Date: 10/10/18 7:52 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Chris Cappuccio > Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM Won?t somebody please think of the children!!! On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 20:52 Chris Cappuccio > wrote: Vote for me and I'll get you into the Knights of Columbus. On 10/10/18 17:44, Tab Fitts wrote: Lmao. I don't think I've gotten spam from candidates, but ARIN has been calling and emailing me telling me not to forget to vote. Tab Fitts Founder/CEO Spry Servers, LLC On October 10, 2018 4:50:00 PM Brock Courneya wrote: ARIN-gate On Oct 10, 2018, at 4:34 PM, David Collier > wrote: Nice!! Sent from my IPhone On Oct 10, 2018, at 6:00 PM, Scott, Michael via ARIN-discuss > wrote: Haha--that was funny! Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Rodney Giles > Date: 10/10/18 4:52 PM (GMT-06:00) To: glopez at fastcloudpr.com Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM maga! make arin great again! On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 4:45 PM Gilberto Lopez > wrote: It is politics after all?. - Gil ______________________________________ Gilberto L?pez-Padr? - President fastCLOUD, Inc. B5 Tabonuco Ste 216 PMB 202, Guaynabo, PR 00968 glopez at fastcloudpr.com - (787) 553-7887 www.fastcloudpr.com - (787) 706-0500 On Oct 10, 2018, at 5:36 PM, matt at reenigne.net wrote: I have received several. I think this happened last year as well. Thanks, Matt On Oct 10, 2018 17:33, Clayton Zekelman > wrote: Hello, I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board position this week? It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. Clayton -- Clayton Zekelman Managed Network Systems Inc. (MNSi) 3363 Tecumseh Rd. E Windsor, Ontario N8W 1H4 tel. 519-985-8410 fax. 519-985-8409 _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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Folks - In accordance with the Virginia nonstock corporation act, ARIN makes available online for inspection the list of eligible voters for its annual election. That list includes both the organization name and the organization?s postal address (note that we do not provide email contact information or telephone numbers as part of this list.) ARIN?s election procedures do not constrain candidates from promotion of any form; this has been discussed with the Board in the past with the result being that it is best left to the judgement of each voter what constitutes useful and informative information versus an undesired appeal for support. There are many ways that the eligible voter list can be reconciled with the related e-mail addresses, and this does include potentially use of ARIN?s Whois and Bulk Whois services. Our present terms of use for those Whois services do not specifically mention use related to ARIN election purposes, and as such an it is possible to argue either side of the usage being permissible or impermissible. I am aware of candidate email campaigns occurring in several of the past years, and this year appears to be no different. I would ask that for the time being, folks consider such emails as one more additional encouragement to vote (if you have not already). Once this election is complete, we can then enjoy a discussion of whether any changes to our Whois terms of use (or our election processes in general) is warranted in this regard. Thanks! (and again - remember to vote!) /John John Curran President and CEO American Registry for Internet Numbers From matt at strasmore.com Wed Oct 10 21:17:06 2018 From: matt at strasmore.com (Matt Connor) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 18:17:06 -0700 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: References: <1539207194_251921@surgemail.mnsi.net> Message-ID: [image: giphy.gif] On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 6:14 PM John Curran wrote: > On 10 Oct 2018, at 5:33 PM, Clayton Zekelman wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else > receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board position > this week? > > > > It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. > > Folks - > > In accordance with the Virginia nonstock corporation act, ARIN makes > available online for inspection the list of eligible voters for its annual > election. That list includes both the organization name and the > organization?s postal address (note that we do not provide email contact > information or telephone numbers as part of this list.) > > ARIN?s election procedures do not constrain candidates from promotion of > any form; this has been discussed with the Board in the past with the > result being that it is best left to the judgement of each voter what > constitutes useful and informative information versus an undesired appeal > for support. > > There are many ways that the eligible voter list can be reconciled with > the related e-mail addresses, and this does include potentially use of > ARIN?s Whois and Bulk Whois services. Our present terms of use for those > Whois services do not specifically mention use related to ARIN election > purposes, and as such an it is possible to argue either side of the usage > being permissible or impermissible. > > I am aware of candidate email campaigns occurring in several of the past > years, and this year appears to be no different. I would ask that for the > time being, folks consider such emails as one more additional encouragement > to vote (if you have not already). Once this election is complete, we can > then enjoy a discussion of whether any changes to our Whois terms of use > (or our election processes in general) is warranted in this regard. > > Thanks! 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That list includes both the organization name and the > organization?s postal address (note that we do not provide email contact > information or telephone numbers as part of this list.) > > ARIN?s election procedures do not constrain candidates from promotion of > any form; this has been discussed with the Board in the past with the > result being that it is best left to the judgement of each voter what > constitutes useful and informative information versus an undesired appeal > for support. > > There are many ways that the eligible voter list can be reconciled with > the related e-mail addresses, and this does include potentially use of > ARIN?s Whois and Bulk Whois services. Our present terms of use for those > Whois services do not specifically mention use related to ARIN election > purposes, and as such an it is possible to argue either side of the usage > being permissible or impermissible. > > I am aware of candidate email campaigns occurring in several of the past > years, and this year appears to be no different. I would ask that for the > time being, folks consider such emails as one more additional encouragement > to vote (if you have not already). Once this election is complete, we can > then enjoy a discussion of whether any changes to our Whois terms of use > (or our election processes in general) is warranted in this regard. > > Thanks! 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Folks - In accordance with the Virginia nonstock corporation act, ARIN makes available online for inspection the list of eligible voters for its annual election. That list includes both the organization name and the organization?s postal address (note that we do not provide email contact information or telephone numbers as part of this list.) ARIN?s election procedures do not constrain candidates from promotion of any form; this has been discussed with the Board in the past with the result being that it is best left to the judgement of each voter what constitutes useful and informative information versus an undesired appeal for support. There are many ways that the eligible voter list can be reconciled with the related e-mail addresses, and this does include potentially use of ARIN?s Whois and Bulk Whois services. Our present terms of use for those Whois services do not specifically mention use related to ARIN election purposes, and as such an it is possible to argue either side of the usage being permissible or impermissible. I am aware of candidate email campaigns occurring in several of the past years, and this year appears to be no different. I would ask that for the time being, folks consider such emails as one more additional encouragement to vote (if you have not already). Once this election is complete, we can then enjoy a discussion of whether any changes to our Whois terms of use (or our election processes in general) is warranted in this regard. Thanks! (and again - remember to vote!) /John John Curran President and CEO American Registry for Internet Numbers _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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What do you think? :-) > > > > Cheers, > > > > Marty > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 21:14 John Curran wrote: > > On 10 Oct 2018, at 5:33 PM, Clayton Zekelman wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else > receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board position > this week? > > > > It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. > > Folks - > > In accordance with the Virginia nonstock corporation act, ARIN makes > available online for inspection the list of eligible voters for its annual > election. That list includes both the organization name and the > organization?s postal address (note that we do not provide email contact > information or telephone numbers as part of this list.) > > ARIN?s election procedures do not constrain candidates from promotion of > any form; this has been discussed with the Board in the past with the > result being that it is best left to the judgement of each voter what > constitutes useful and informative information versus an undesired appeal > for support. > > There are many ways that the eligible voter list can be reconciled with > the related e-mail addresses, and this does include potentially use of > ARIN?s Whois and Bulk Whois services. Our present terms of use for those > Whois services do not specifically mention use related to ARIN election > purposes, and as such an it is possible to argue either side of the usage > being permissible or impermissible. > > I am aware of candidate email campaigns occurring in several of the past > years, and this year appears to be no different. I would ask that for the > time being, folks consider such emails as one more additional encouragement > to vote (if you have not already). Once this election is complete, we can > then enjoy a discussion of whether any changes to our Whois terms of use > (or our election processes in general) is warranted in this regard. > > Thanks! (and again - remember to vote!) > /John > > John Curran > President and CEO > American Registry for Internet Numbers > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Box 1284 Great Falls, Montana Office: 417 Central Ave Suite 301 Office Phone: 406-205-4411 Phone: 406-788-6054 | robert at konceptio.com | http://www.kdsmt.com On 10/10/2018 7:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Can we end this thread please? > > Josh Luthman > Office:?937-552-2340 > Direct:?937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Wed, Oct 10, 2018, 6:26 PM Ted Grandpre > wrote: > > unsubscribe > > *From:* ARIN-discuss > *On Behalf Of *Martin Hannigan > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 10, 2018 6:18 PM > *To:* arin-discuss at arin.net > *Subject:* Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM > > Bill Sandiford! What do you think? :-) > > Cheers, > > Marty > > On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 21:14 John Curran > wrote: > > On 10 Oct 2018, at 5:33 PM, Clayton Zekelman > wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did > anyone else receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running > for an ARIN board position this week? > > > > It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC > record. > > Folks - > > In accordance with the Virginia nonstock corporation act, ARIN > makes available online for inspection the list of eligible > voters for its annual election.? That list includes both the > organization name and the organization?s postal address (note > that we do not provide email contact information or telephone > numbers as part of this list.) > > ARIN?s election procedures do not constrain candidates from > promotion of any form; this has been discussed with the Board > in the past with the result being that it is best left to the > judgement of each voter what constitutes useful and > informative information versus an undesired appeal for support. > > There are many ways that the eligible voter list can be > reconciled with the related e-mail addresses, and this does > include potentially use of ARIN?s Whois and Bulk Whois > services. Our present terms of use for those Whois services do > not specifically mention use related to ARIN election > purposes, and as such an it is possible to argue either side > of the usage being permissible or impermissible. > > I am aware of candidate email campaigns occurring in several > of the past years, and this year appears to be no different.? > I would ask that for the time being, folks consider such > emails as one more additional encouragement to vote (if you > have not already).? ?Once this election is complete, we can > then enjoy a discussion of whether any changes to our Whois > terms of use (or our election processes in general) is > warranted in this regard. > > Thanks! (and again - remember to vote!) > /John > > John Curran > President and CEO > American Registry for Internet Numbers > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net > ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you > experience any issues. > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net > ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you > experience any issues. > > > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. -- *Robert Bialecki* Owner | *Konceptio Data Services, LLC DBA KDS Networks* Snail Mail: P.O. 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Please > refrain from spamming us all > > Emill Buitrago > Network > emill.buitrago at alticeusa.com > > ------------------------------ > *From:* ARIN-discuss on behalf of Ted > Grandpre > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 10, 2018 9:25:52 PM > *To:* Martin Hannigan; arin-discuss at arin.net > > *Subject:* Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM > > > unsubscribe > > > > *From:* ARIN-discuss * On Behalf Of *Martin > Hannigan > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 10, 2018 6:18 PM > *To:* arin-discuss at arin.net > *Subject:* Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM > > > > Bill Sandiford! What do you think? :-) > > > > Cheers, > > > > Marty > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 21:14 John Curran wrote: > > On 10 Oct 2018, at 5:33 PM, Clayton Zekelman wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else > receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board position > this week? > > > > It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. > > Folks - > > In accordance with the Virginia nonstock corporation act, ARIN makes > available online for inspection the list of eligible voters for its annual > election. That list includes both the organization name and the > organization?s postal address (note that we do not provide email contact > information or telephone numbers as part of this list.) > > ARIN?s election procedures do not constrain candidates from promotion of > any form; this has been discussed with the Board in the past with the > result being that it is best left to the judgement of each voter what > constitutes useful and informative information versus an undesired appeal > for support. > > There are many ways that the eligible voter list can be reconciled with > the related e-mail addresses, and this does include potentially use of > ARIN?s Whois and Bulk Whois services. Our present terms of use for those > Whois services do not specifically mention use related to ARIN election > purposes, and as such an it is possible to argue either side of the usage > being permissible or impermissible. > > I am aware of candidate email campaigns occurring in several of the past > years, and this year appears to be no different. I would ask that for the > time being, folks consider such emails as one more additional encouragement > to vote (if you have not already). Once this election is complete, we can > then enjoy a discussion of whether any changes to our Whois terms of use > (or our election processes in general) is warranted in this regard. > > Thanks! (and again - remember to vote!) > /John > > John Curran > President and CEO > American Registry for Internet Numbers > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > The information transmitted in this email and any of its attachments is > intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may > contain information concerning Altice USA and/or its affiliates and > subsidiaries that is proprietary, privileged, confidential and/or subject > to copyright. 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URL: From rroot at rootautomation.com Wed Oct 10 21:59:41 2018 From: rroot at rootautomation.com (Ryan Root) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 18:59:41 -0700 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20181011015918.CFB52100D0B7@smtp1.arin.net> Thankfully I haven't received any solicitations to vote at all.? Those of you who have, have you double checked the headers to make sure the person is actually sending the emails? If I were him/her I'd speak up on this discuss email venue ASAP if I hadn't approved it.? I'm sure many wont cite for them whoever they are without clarity.? I would be interesting to investigate who did and didn't get the emails and if the votes are actuly fairly calculated.? I wonder if those who got them spams votes are considered more important than others if not by ARIN for some other reason. Nonetheless, I kind of concur. Unless this becomes productive in gathering facts I'm probably going to unsubscribe too. Ryan Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message --------From: Martin Hannigan Date: 10/10/18 6:34 PM (GMT-08:00) To: Emill Buitrago Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM This is what discuss is for.? Do you know why I asked Bill for his opinion? Its relevant. Lecturing is a bit more spammy IMHO. Food for thought.? Best Regards,? -M< On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 21:27 Emill Buitrago wrote: The distribution here is bigger than just a handful of people. Please refrain from spamming us all Emill Buitrago Network emill.buitrago at alticeusa.com From: ARIN-discuss on behalf of Ted Grandpre Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 9:25:52 PM To: Martin Hannigan; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM ? unsubscribe ? From: ARIN-discuss On Behalf Of Martin Hannigan Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 6:18 PM To: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM ? Bill Sandiford! What do you think? :-) ? Cheers, ? Marty ? ? On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 21:14 John Curran wrote: On 10 Oct 2018, at 5:33 PM, Clayton Zekelman wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board position this week? > > It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. Folks - In accordance with the Virginia nonstock corporation act, ARIN makes available online for inspection the list of eligible voters for its annual election.? That list includes both the organization name and the organization?s postal address (note that we do not provide email contact information or telephone numbers as part of this list.) ARIN?s election procedures do not constrain candidates from promotion of any form; this has been discussed with the Board in the past with the result being that it is best left to the judgement of each voter what constitutes useful and informative information versus an undesired appeal for support. There are many ways that the eligible voter list can be reconciled with the related e-mail addresses, and this does include potentially use of ARIN?s Whois and Bulk Whois services. Our present terms of use for those Whois services do not specifically mention use related to ARIN election purposes, and as such an it is possible to argue either side of the usage being permissible or impermissible.? I am aware of candidate email campaigns occurring in several of the past years, and this year appears to be no different.? I would ask that for the time being, folks consider such emails as one more additional encouragement to vote (if you have not already).? ?Once this election is complete, we can then enjoy a discussion of whether any changes to our Whois terms of use (or our election processes in general) is warranted in this regard. Thanks! (and again - remember to vote!) /John John Curran President and CEO American Registry for Internet Numbers _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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If you received this message in error, please delete it immediately. > On Oct 10, 2018, at 18:59, Ryan Root wrote: > > Thankfully I haven't received any solicitations to vote at all. Those of you who have, have you double checked the headers to make sure the person is actually sending the emails? If I were him/her I'd speak up on this discuss email venue ASAP if I hadn't approved it. I'm sure many wont cite for them whoever they are without clarity. I would be interesting to investigate who did and didn't get the emails and if the votes are actuly fairly calculated. I wonder if those who got them spams votes are considered more important than others if not by ARIN for some other reason. > > Nonetheless, I kind of concur. Unless this becomes productive in gathering facts I'm probably going to unsubscribe too. > > Ryan > > > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Martin Hannigan > Date: 10/10/18 6:34 PM (GMT-08:00) > To: Emill Buitrago > Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM > > > This is what discuss is for. > > Do you know why I asked Bill for his opinion? Its relevant. Lecturing is a bit more spammy IMHO. Food for thought. > > Best Regards, > > -M< > > > > > On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 21:27 Emill Buitrago > wrote: > The distribution here is bigger than just a handful of people. Please refrain from spamming us all > > Emill Buitrago > Network > emill.buitrago at alticeusa.com > From: ARIN-discuss > on behalf of Ted Grandpre > > Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 9:25:52 PM > To: Martin Hannigan; arin-discuss at arin.net > > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM > > unsubscribe > > > From: ARIN-discuss > On Behalf Of Martin Hannigan > Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 6:18 PM > To: arin-discuss at arin.net > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM > > > Bill Sandiford! What do you think? :-) > > > Cheers, > > > Marty > > > > On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 21:14 John Curran > wrote: > > On 10 Oct 2018, at 5:33 PM, Clayton Zekelman > wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board position this week? > > > > It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. > > Folks - > > In accordance with the Virginia nonstock corporation act, ARIN makes available online for inspection the list of eligible voters for its annual election. That list includes both the organization name and the organization?s postal address (note that we do not provide email contact information or telephone numbers as part of this list.) > > ARIN?s election procedures do not constrain candidates from promotion of any form; this has been discussed with the Board in the past with the result being that it is best left to the judgement of each voter what constitutes useful and informative information versus an undesired appeal for support. > > There are many ways that the eligible voter list can be reconciled with the related e-mail addresses, and this does include potentially use of ARIN?s Whois and Bulk Whois services. Our present terms of use for those Whois services do not specifically mention use related to ARIN election purposes, and as such an it is possible to argue either side of the usage being permissible or impermissible. > > I am aware of candidate email campaigns occurring in several of the past years, and this year appears to be no different. I would ask that for the time being, folks consider such emails as one more additional encouragement to vote (if you have not already). Once this election is complete, we can then enjoy a discussion of whether any changes to our Whois terms of use (or our election processes in general) is warranted in this regard. > > Thanks! (and again - remember to vote!) > /John > > John Curran > President and CEO > American Registry for Internet Numbers > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > The information transmitted in this email and any of its attachments is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information concerning Altice USA and/or its affiliates and subsidiaries that is proprietary, privileged, confidential and/or subject to copyright. 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URL: From Harlan at syncpoint.us Wed Oct 10 22:08:46 2018 From: Harlan at syncpoint.us (Harlan Hamlin (Syncpoint)) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 02:08:46 +0000 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: References: <20181011015918.CFB52100D0B7@smtp1.arin.net>, Message-ID: <994C8C16-43C1-4EBF-AD17-FFCCB1F15931@syncpoint.us> Unsubscribe Best Regards, Harlan Hamlin, 678-369-7300 Please excuse brevity as this is sent from iPhone On Oct 10, 2018, at 10:08 PM, MG > wrote: unsubscribe Marc Gittleman CEO 5x5 Telecom (213) 550-4890 www.linkedin.com/in/marcgittleman @MarcGittleman This e-mail contains proprietary information and may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you received this message in error, please delete it immediately. On Oct 10, 2018, at 18:59, Ryan Root > wrote: Thankfully I haven't received any solicitations to vote at all. Those of you who have, have you double checked the headers to make sure the person is actually sending the emails? If I were him/her I'd speak up on this discuss email venue ASAP if I hadn't approved it. I'm sure many wont cite for them whoever they are without clarity. I would be interesting to investigate who did and didn't get the emails and if the votes are actuly fairly calculated. I wonder if those who got them spams votes are considered more important than others if not by ARIN for some other reason. Nonetheless, I kind of concur. Unless this becomes productive in gathering facts I'm probably going to unsubscribe too. Ryan Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Martin Hannigan > Date: 10/10/18 6:34 PM (GMT-08:00) To: Emill Buitrago > Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM This is what discuss is for. Do you know why I asked Bill for his opinion? Its relevant. Lecturing is a bit more spammy IMHO. Food for thought. Best Regards, -M< On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 21:27 Emill Buitrago > wrote: The distribution here is bigger than just a handful of people. Please refrain from spamming us all Emill Buitrago Network emill.buitrago at alticeusa.com ________________________________ From: ARIN-discuss > on behalf of Ted Grandpre > Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 9:25:52 PM To: Martin Hannigan; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM unsubscribe From: ARIN-discuss > On Behalf Of Martin Hannigan Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 6:18 PM To: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM Bill Sandiford! What do you think? :-) Cheers, Marty On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 21:14 John Curran > wrote: On 10 Oct 2018, at 5:33 PM, Clayton Zekelman > wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board position this week? > > It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. Folks - In accordance with the Virginia nonstock corporation act, ARIN makes available online for inspection the list of eligible voters for its annual election. That list includes both the organization name and the organization?s postal address (note that we do not provide email contact information or telephone numbers as part of this list.) ARIN?s election procedures do not constrain candidates from promotion of any form; this has been discussed with the Board in the past with the result being that it is best left to the judgement of each voter what constitutes useful and informative information versus an undesired appeal for support. There are many ways that the eligible voter list can be reconciled with the related e-mail addresses, and this does include potentially use of ARIN?s Whois and Bulk Whois services. Our present terms of use for those Whois services do not specifically mention use related to ARIN election purposes, and as such an it is possible to argue either side of the usage being permissible or impermissible. I am aware of candidate email campaigns occurring in several of the past years, and this year appears to be no different. I would ask that for the time being, folks consider such emails as one more additional encouragement to vote (if you have not already). Once this election is complete, we can then enjoy a discussion of whether any changes to our Whois terms of use (or our election processes in general) is warranted in this regard. Thanks! (and again - remember to vote!) /John John Curran President and CEO American Registry for Internet Numbers _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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If you received this message in error, please delete it immediately. On Oct 10, 2018, at 18:59, Ryan Root > wrote: Thankfully I haven't received any solicitations to vote at all. Those of you who have, have you double checked the headers to make sure the person is actually sending the emails? If I were him/her I'd speak up on this discuss email venue ASAP if I hadn't approved it. I'm sure many wont cite for them whoever they are without clarity. I would be interesting to investigate who did and didn't get the emails and if the votes are actuly fairly calculated. I wonder if those who got them spams votes are considered more important than others if not by ARIN for some other reason. Nonetheless, I kind of concur. Unless this becomes productive in gathering facts I'm probably going to unsubscribe too. Ryan Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Martin Hannigan > Date: 10/10/18 6:34 PM (GMT-08:00) To: Emill Buitrago > Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM This is what discuss is for. Do you know why I asked Bill for his opinion? Its relevant. Lecturing is a bit more spammy IMHO. Food for thought. Best Regards, -M< On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 21:27 Emill Buitrago > wrote: The distribution here is bigger than just a handful of people. Please refrain from spamming us all Emill Buitrago Network emill.buitrago at alticeusa.com ________________________________ From: ARIN-discuss > on behalf of Ted Grandpre > Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 9:25:52 PM To: Martin Hannigan; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM unsubscribe From: ARIN-discuss > On Behalf Of Martin Hannigan Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 6:18 PM To: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM Bill Sandiford! What do you think? :-) Cheers, Marty On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 21:14 John Curran > wrote: On 10 Oct 2018, at 5:33 PM, Clayton Zekelman > wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board position this week? > > It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. Folks - In accordance with the Virginia nonstock corporation act, ARIN makes available online for inspection the list of eligible voters for its annual election. That list includes both the organization name and the organization?s postal address (note that we do not provide email contact information or telephone numbers as part of this list.) ARIN?s election procedures do not constrain candidates from promotion of any form; this has been discussed with the Board in the past with the result being that it is best left to the judgement of each voter what constitutes useful and informative information versus an undesired appeal for support. There are many ways that the eligible voter list can be reconciled with the related e-mail addresses, and this does include potentially use of ARIN?s Whois and Bulk Whois services. Our present terms of use for those Whois services do not specifically mention use related to ARIN election purposes, and as such an it is possible to argue either side of the usage being permissible or impermissible. I am aware of candidate email campaigns occurring in several of the past years, and this year appears to be no different. I would ask that for the time being, folks consider such emails as one more additional encouragement to vote (if you have not already). Once this election is complete, we can then enjoy a discussion of whether any changes to our Whois terms of use (or our election processes in general) is warranted in this regard. Thanks! (and again - remember to vote!) /John John Curran President and CEO American Registry for Internet Numbers _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you received this message in error, please delete it immediately. On Oct 10, 2018, at 18:59, Ryan Root > wrote: Thankfully I haven't received any solicitations to vote at all. Those of you who have, have you double checked the headers to make sure the person is actually sending the emails? If I were him/her I'd speak up on this discuss email venue ASAP if I hadn't approved it. I'm sure many wont cite for them whoever they are without clarity. I would be interesting to investigate who did and didn't get the emails and if the votes are actuly fairly calculated. I wonder if those who got them spams votes are considered more important than others if not by ARIN for some other reason. Nonetheless, I kind of concur. Unless this becomes productive in gathering facts I'm probably going to unsubscribe too. Ryan Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Martin Hannigan > Date: 10/10/18 6:34 PM (GMT-08:00) To: Emill Buitrago > Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM This is what discuss is for. Do you know why I asked Bill for his opinion? Its relevant. Lecturing is a bit more spammy IMHO. Food for thought. Best Regards, -M< On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 21:27 Emill Buitrago > wrote: The distribution here is bigger than just a handful of people. Please refrain from spamming us all Emill Buitrago Network emill.buitrago at alticeusa.com ________________________________ From: ARIN-discuss > on behalf of Ted Grandpre > Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 9:25:52 PM To: Martin Hannigan; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM unsubscribe From: ARIN-discuss > On Behalf Of Martin Hannigan Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 6:18 PM To: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM Bill Sandiford! What do you think? :-) Cheers, Marty On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 21:14 John Curran > wrote: On 10 Oct 2018, at 5:33 PM, Clayton Zekelman > wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board position this week? > > It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. Folks - In accordance with the Virginia nonstock corporation act, ARIN makes available online for inspection the list of eligible voters for its annual election. That list includes both the organization name and the organization?s postal address (note that we do not provide email contact information or telephone numbers as part of this list.) ARIN?s election procedures do not constrain candidates from promotion of any form; this has been discussed with the Board in the past with the result being that it is best left to the judgement of each voter what constitutes useful and informative information versus an undesired appeal for support. There are many ways that the eligible voter list can be reconciled with the related e-mail addresses, and this does include potentially use of ARIN?s Whois and Bulk Whois services. Our present terms of use for those Whois services do not specifically mention use related to ARIN election purposes, and as such an it is possible to argue either side of the usage being permissible or impermissible. I am aware of candidate email campaigns occurring in several of the past years, and this year appears to be no different. I would ask that for the time being, folks consider such emails as one more additional encouragement to vote (if you have not already). Once this election is complete, we can then enjoy a discussion of whether any changes to our Whois terms of use (or our election processes in general) is warranted in this regard. Thanks! (and again - remember to vote!) /John John Curran President and CEO American Registry for Internet Numbers _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you received this message in error, please delete it immediately. > >> On Oct 10, 2018, at 18:59, Ryan Root wrote: >> >> Thankfully I haven't received any solicitations to vote at all. Those of you who have, have you double checked the headers to make sure the person is actually sending the emails? If I were him/her I'd speak up on this discuss email venue ASAP if I hadn't approved it. I'm sure many wont cite for them whoever they are without clarity. I would be interesting to investigate who did and didn't get the emails and if the votes are actuly fairly calculated. I wonder if those who got them spams votes are considered more important than others if not by ARIN for some other reason. >> >> Nonetheless, I kind of concur. Unless this becomes productive in gathering facts I'm probably going to unsubscribe too. >> >> Ryan >> >> >> >> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: Martin Hannigan >> Date: 10/10/18 6:34 PM (GMT-08:00) >> To: Emill Buitrago >> Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net >> Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM >> >> >> This is what discuss is for. >> >> Do you know why I asked Bill for his opinion? Its relevant. Lecturing is a bit more spammy IMHO. Food for thought. >> >> Best Regards, >> >> -M< >> >> >> >> >>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 21:27 Emill Buitrago wrote: >>> The distribution here is bigger than just a handful of people. Please refrain from spamming us all >>> >>> Emill Buitrago >>> Network >>> emill.buitrago at alticeusa.com >>> >>> From: ARIN-discuss on behalf of Ted Grandpre >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 9:25:52 PM >>> To: Martin Hannigan; arin-discuss at arin.net >>> >>> Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM >>> >>> unsubscribe >>> >>> >>> From: ARIN-discuss On Behalf Of Martin Hannigan >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 6:18 PM >>> To: arin-discuss at arin.net >>> Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM >>> >>> >>> Bill Sandiford! What do you think? :-) >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> >>> Marty >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 21:14 John Curran wrote: >>> >>> On 10 Oct 2018, at 5:33 PM, Clayton Zekelman wrote: >>> > >>> > Hello, >>> > >>> > I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board position this week? >>> > >>> > It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. >>> >>> Folks - >>> >>> In accordance with the Virginia nonstock corporation act, ARIN makes available online for inspection the list of eligible voters for its annual election. That list includes both the organization name and the organization?s postal address (note that we do not provide email contact information or telephone numbers as part of this list.) >>> >>> ARIN?s election procedures do not constrain candidates from promotion of any form; this has been discussed with the Board in the past with the result being that it is best left to the judgement of each voter what constitutes useful and informative information versus an undesired appeal for support. >>> >>> There are many ways that the eligible voter list can be reconciled with the related e-mail addresses, and this does include potentially use of ARIN?s Whois and Bulk Whois services. Our present terms of use for those Whois services do not specifically mention use related to ARIN election purposes, and as such an it is possible to argue either side of the usage being permissible or impermissible. >>> >>> I am aware of candidate email campaigns occurring in several of the past years, and this year appears to be no different. I would ask that for the time being, folks consider such emails as one more additional encouragement to vote (if you have not already). Once this election is complete, we can then enjoy a discussion of whether any changes to our Whois terms of use (or our election processes in general) is warranted in this regard. >>> >>> Thanks! (and again - remember to vote!) >>> /John >>> >>> John Curran >>> President and CEO >>> American Registry for Internet Numbers >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ARIN-Discuss >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------- >>> The information transmitted in this email and any of its attachments is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information concerning Altice USA and/or its affiliates and subsidiaries that is proprietary, privileged, confidential and/or subject to copyright. 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What do you think? :-) Cheers, Marty On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 21:14 John Curran > wrote: On 10 Oct 2018, at 5:33 PM, Clayton Zekelman > wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board position this week? > > It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. Folks - In accordance with the Virginia nonstock corporation act, ARIN makes available online for inspection the list of eligible voters for its annual election. That list includes both the organization name and the organization's postal address (note that we do not provide email contact information or telephone numbers as part of this list.) ARIN's election procedures do not constrain candidates from promotion of any form; this has been discussed with the Board in the past with the result being that it is best left to the judgement of each voter what constitutes useful and informative information versus an undesired appeal for support. There are many ways that the eligible voter list can be reconciled with the related e-mail addresses, and this does include potentially use of ARIN's Whois and Bulk Whois services. Our present terms of use for those Whois services do not specifically mention use related to ARIN election purposes, and as such an it is possible to argue either side of the usage being permissible or impermissible. I am aware of candidate email campaigns occurring in several of the past years, and this year appears to be no different. I would ask that for the time being, folks consider such emails as one more additional encouragement to vote (if you have not already). Once this election is complete, we can then enjoy a discussion of whether any changes to our Whois terms of use (or our election processes in general) is warranted in this regard. Thanks! (and again - remember to vote!) /John John Curran President and CEO American Registry for Internet Numbers _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mayer wrote: > > Unsubscribe > > > > James Mayer > Mayer Networks > 618.529.4922 > > Currently mobile, sorry for improper grammar, spelling or a wildly outrageous autocorrect. > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Ted Grandpre > Date: 10/10/18 8:28 PM (GMT-06:00) > To: Martin Hannigan , arin-discuss at arin.net > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM > > unsubscribe > > From: ARIN-discuss On Behalf Of Martin Hannigan > Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 6:18 PM > To: arin-discuss at arin.net > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM > > Bill Sandiford! What do you think? :-) > > Cheers, > > Marty > > > On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 21:14 John Curran > wrote: > On 10 Oct 2018, at 5:33 PM, Clayton Zekelman > wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board position this week? > > > > It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. > > Folks - > > In accordance with the Virginia nonstock corporation act, ARIN makes available online for inspection the list of eligible voters for its annual election. That list includes both the organization name and the organization?s postal address (note that we do not provide email contact information or telephone numbers as part of this list.) > > ARIN?s election procedures do not constrain candidates from promotion of any form; this has been discussed with the Board in the past with the result being that it is best left to the judgement of each voter what constitutes useful and informative information versus an undesired appeal for support. > > There are many ways that the eligible voter list can be reconciled with the related e-mail addresses, and this does include potentially use of ARIN?s Whois and Bulk Whois services. Our present terms of use for those Whois services do not specifically mention use related to ARIN election purposes, and as such an it is possible to argue either side of the usage being permissible or impermissible. > > I am aware of candidate email campaigns occurring in several of the past years, and this year appears to be no different. I would ask that for the time being, folks consider such emails as one more additional encouragement to vote (if you have not already). Once this election is complete, we can then enjoy a discussion of whether any changes to our Whois terms of use (or our election processes in general) is warranted in this regard. > > Thanks! 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Mayer > wrote: Unsubscribe James Mayer Mayer Networks 618.529.4922 Currently mobile, sorry for improper grammar, spelling or a wildly outrageous autocorrect. -------- Original message -------- From: Ted Grandpre > Date: 10/10/18 8:28 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Martin Hannigan >, arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM unsubscribe From: ARIN-discuss > On Behalf Of Martin Hannigan Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 6:18 PM To: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM Bill Sandiford! What do you think? :-) Cheers, Marty On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 21:14 John Curran > wrote: On 10 Oct 2018, at 5:33 PM, Clayton Zekelman > wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board position this week? > > It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. Folks - In accordance with the Virginia nonstock corporation act, ARIN makes available online for inspection the list of eligible voters for its annual election. That list includes both the organization name and the organization?s postal address (note that we do not provide email contact information or telephone numbers as part of this list.) ARIN?s election procedures do not constrain candidates from promotion of any form; this has been discussed with the Board in the past with the result being that it is best left to the judgement of each voter what constitutes useful and informative information versus an undesired appeal for support. There are many ways that the eligible voter list can be reconciled with the related e-mail addresses, and this does include potentially use of ARIN?s Whois and Bulk Whois services. Our present terms of use for those Whois services do not specifically mention use related to ARIN election purposes, and as such an it is possible to argue either side of the usage being permissible or impermissible. I am aware of candidate email campaigns occurring in several of the past years, and this year appears to be no different. I would ask that for the time being, folks consider such emails as one more additional encouragement to vote (if you have not already). Once this election is complete, we can then enjoy a discussion of whether any changes to our Whois terms of use (or our election processes in general) is warranted in this regard. Thanks! (and again - remember to vote!) /John John Curran President and CEO American Registry for Internet Numbers _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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Mayer wrote: Unsubscribe James MayerMayer Networks618.529.4922 Currently mobile, sorry for improper grammar, spelling or a wildly outrageous autocorrect. -------- Original message --------From: Ted Grandpre Date: 10/10/18 8:28 PM (GMT-06:00)To: Martin Hannigan , arin-discuss at arin.netSubject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM unsubscribe?From:?ARIN-discuss ?On Behalf Of?Martin Hannigan Sent:?Wednesday, October 10, 2018 6:18 PM To:?arin-discuss at arin.net Subject:?Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM?Bill Sandiford! What do you think? :-)?Cheers,?Marty??On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 21:14 John Curran wrote:On 10 Oct 2018, at 5:33 PM, Clayton Zekelman wrote: >? > Hello, >? > I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board position this week? >? > It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. Folks -? In accordance with the Virginia nonstock corporation act, ARIN makes available online for inspection the list of eligible voters for its annual election.? That list includes both the organization name and the organization?s postal address (note that we do not provide email contact information or telephone numbers as part of this list.) ARIN?s election procedures do not constrain candidates from promotion of any form; this has been discussed with the Board in the past with the result being that it is best left to the judgement of each voter what constitutes useful and informative information versus an undesired appeal for support. There are many ways that the eligible voter list can be reconciled with the related e-mail addresses, and this does include potentially use of ARIN?s Whois and Bulk Whois services. Our present terms of use for those Whois services do not specifically mention use related to ARIN election purposes, and as such an it is possible to argue either side of the usage being permissible or impermissible.?? I am aware of candidate email campaigns occurring in several of the past years, and this year appears to be no different.? I would ask that for the time being, folks consider such emails as one more additional encouragement to vote (if you have not already).? ?Once this election is complete, we can then enjoy a discussion of whether any changes to our Whois terms of use (or our election processes in general) is warranted in this regard.? Thanks! (and again - remember to vote!) /John John Curran President and CEO American Registry for Internet Numbers _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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Mike Smith Operations Manager CATV -------- Original message --------From: Randall Brooks Date: 10/11/18 12:28 AM (GMT-05:00) To: dotCOM host - Remik , arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM Unsubscribe Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S8+, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: dotCOM host - Remik Date: 10/10/18 11:24 PM (GMT-06:00) To: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM Unsubscribe This is NOT why I joined this list and I have no desire (or time) to see the juvenile Pedro/Trump/Kavanaugh/I Like Beer/Eleventy!!1! jokes. ?There are groups for that, if that's your thing. ?This is not it. ?This is an ARIN list. ?Keep it to ARIN news and info. ?If you can't - just don't bother the entire world with your "jokes" - every message you send gets sent to thousands upon thousands of people, in case you didn't realize it by now. Unless this is cleaned up immediately - please remove me from this list. 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Feel like Tommy Boy here...for the love of God please quit reply all ??? -bruce On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:33 AM -0400, "Mike Smith" > wrote: Unsubscribe Mike Smith Operations Manager CATV -------- Original message -------- From: Randall Brooks Date: 10/11/18 12:28 AM (GMT-05:00) To: dotCOM host - Remik , arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM Unsubscribe Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S8+, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: dotCOM host - Remik Date: 10/10/18 11:24 PM (GMT-06:00) To: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM Unsubscribe This is NOT why I joined this list and I have no desire (or time) to see the juvenile Pedro/Trump/Kavanaugh/I Like Beer/Eleventy!!1! jokes. There are groups for that, if that's your thing. This is not it. This is an ARIN list. Keep it to ARIN news and info. If you can't - just don't bother the entire world with your "jokes" - every message you send gets sent to thousands upon thousands of people, in case you didn't realize it by now. Unless this is cleaned up immediately - please remove me from this list. Remik On Oct 10, 2018, at 6:45 PM, Nathaniel B. Lyon > wrote: Unsubscribe Nathaniel B. Lyon | Founder, President NorthfieldWiFi | www.northfieldwifi.com 1403 Heritage Drive, Suite A | Northfield, MN 55057 (612) 991-4260 ext. 6 | nate.lyon at nfldwifi.net On Oct 10, 2018, at 8:41 PM, Brad Timberlake > wrote: unsubscribe _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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If you'll notice, Steve only responded to Mike and arin-discuss, yet all participants saw it. On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 10:56 PM Bruce Freshwater < BFreshwater at sierraexperts.com> wrote: > Your unsubscribe request has been noted. > > Feel like Tommy Boy here...for the love of God please quit reply all ??? > > -bruce > > > > > On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:33 AM -0400, "Mike Smith" > wrote: > > Unsubscribe >> >> >> >> Mike Smith Operations Manager CATV >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: Randall Brooks >> Date: 10/11/18 12:28 AM (GMT-05:00) >> To: dotCOM host - Remik , arin-discuss at arin.net >> Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM >> >> Unsubscribe >> >> >> >> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S8+, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: dotCOM host - Remik >> Date: 10/10/18 11:24 PM (GMT-06:00) >> To: arin-discuss at arin.net >> Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM >> >> Unsubscribe >> >> This is NOT why I joined this list and I have no desire (or time) to see >> the juvenile Pedro/Trump/Kavanaugh/I Like Beer/Eleventy!!1! jokes. There >> are groups for that, if that's your thing. This is not it. This is an >> ARIN list. Keep it to ARIN news and info. If you can't - just don't >> bother the entire world with your "jokes" - every message you send gets >> sent to thousands upon thousands of people, in case you didn't realize it >> by now. >> >> Unless this is cleaned up immediately - please remove me from this list. >> >> Remik >> >> >> >> On Oct 10, 2018, at 6:45 PM, Nathaniel B. Lyon >> wrote: >> >> Unsubscribe >> >> *Nathaniel B. Lyon **|** Founder, President* >> NorthfieldWiFi *|* >> www.northfieldwifi.com >> 1403 Heritage Drive, Suite A *|* Northfield, MN 55057 >> (612) 991-4260 ext. 6 <(612)%20991-4260;6> *| *nate.lyon at nfldwifi.net >> >> On Oct 10, 2018, at 8:41 PM, Brad Timberlake wrote: >> >> *unsubscribe* >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ARIN-Discuss >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ARIN-Discuss >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > -- Michael Zindel // CEO | Liberty Broadband O: 385.626.0096 | E: michael.zindel at libertybroadband.site -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Feel like Tommy Boy here...for the love of God please quit reply all ??? -bruce On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:33 AM -0400, "Mike Smith" > wrote: Unsubscribe Mike Smith Operations Manager CATV -------- Original message -------- From: Randall Brooks > Date: 10/11/18 12:28 AM (GMT-05:00) To: dotCOM host - Remik >, arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM Unsubscribe Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S8+, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: dotCOM host - Remik > Date: 10/10/18 11:24 PM (GMT-06:00) To: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM Unsubscribe This is NOT why I joined this list and I have no desire (or time) to see the juvenile Pedro/Trump/Kavanaugh/I Like Beer/Eleventy!!1! jokes. There are groups for that, if that's your thing. This is not it. This is an ARIN list. Keep it to ARIN news and info. 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On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 20:52 Chris Cappuccio > wrote: Vote for me and I'll get you into the Knights of Columbus. On 10/10/18 17:44, Tab Fitts wrote: Lmao. I don't think I've gotten spam from candidates, but ARIN has been calling and emailing me telling me not to forget to vote. Tab Fitts Founder/CEO Spry Servers, LLC On October 10, 2018 4:50:00 PM Brock Courneya wrote: ARIN-gate On Oct 10, 2018, at 4:34 PM, David Collier > wrote: Nice!! Sent from my IPhone On Oct 10, 2018, at 6:00 PM, Scott, Michael via ARIN-discuss > wrote: Haha--that was funny! Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Rodney Giles > Date: 10/10/18 4:52 PM (GMT-06:00) To: glopez at fastcloudpr.com Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM maga! make arin great again! On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 4:45 PM Gilberto Lopez > wrote: It is politics after all?. - Gil ______________________________________ Gilberto L?pez-Padr? - President fastCLOUD, Inc. B5 Tabonuco Ste 216 PMB 202, Guaynabo, PR 00968 glopez at fastcloudpr.com - (787) 553-7887 www.fastcloudpr.com - (787) 706-0500 On Oct 10, 2018, at 5:36 PM, matt at reenigne.net wrote: I have received several. I think this happened last year as well. Thanks, Matt On Oct 10, 2018 17:33, Clayton Zekelman > wrote: Hello, I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board position this week? It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. Clayton -- Clayton Zekelman Managed Network Systems Inc. (MNSi) 3363 Tecumseh Rd. 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Regards V?ctor J.Su?rez Mercado VP of Sales & Marketing Fuse Telecom, LLC. O.787 953 3873 Ext 300 F.787 957 3873 E.vsuarez at fusetelecom.com www.fusetelecom.com Connect to Grow! ________________________________ From: ARIN-discuss on behalf of Mike Ouimet Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 7:42 AM To: Walter Baker III Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM Please stop the reply all folks!! Mike Ouimet President/Owner ---------------------------------------------------- Wincourse Technologies Inc. Complete. Comprehensive. Customized. Wincourse.com Direct 980.255.3830 Office 704.707.4759 Support 704.707.4759 x2 On Oct 11, 2018, at 7:36 AM, Walter Baker III > wrote: On Oct 10, 2018, at 9:03 PM, jpollard > wrote: Vote for Pedro! Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Jose Paz > Date: 10/10/18 7:52 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Chris Cappuccio > Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM Won?t somebody please think of the children!!! On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 20:52 Chris Cappuccio > wrote: Vote for me and I'll get you into the Knights of Columbus. On 10/10/18 17:44, Tab Fitts wrote: Lmao. I don't think I've gotten spam from candidates, but ARIN has been calling and emailing me telling me not to forget to vote. Tab Fitts Founder/CEO Spry Servers, LLC On October 10, 2018 4:50:00 PM Brock Courneya wrote: ARIN-gate On Oct 10, 2018, at 4:34 PM, David Collier > wrote: Nice!! Sent from my IPhone On Oct 10, 2018, at 6:00 PM, Scott, Michael via ARIN-discuss > wrote: Haha--that was funny! Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Rodney Giles > Date: 10/10/18 4:52 PM (GMT-06:00) To: glopez at fastcloudpr.com Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM maga! make arin great again! On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 4:45 PM Gilberto Lopez > wrote: It is politics after all?. - Gil ______________________________________ Gilberto L?pez-Padr? - President fastCLOUD, Inc. B5 Tabonuco Ste 216 PMB 202, Guaynabo, PR 00968 glopez at fastcloudpr.com - (787) 553-7887 www.fastcloudpr.com - (787) 706-0500 On Oct 10, 2018, at 5:36 PM, matt at reenigne.net wrote: I have received several. I think this happened last year as well. Thanks, Matt On Oct 10, 2018 17:33, Clayton Zekelman > wrote: Hello, I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board position this week? It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. 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If you can't - just don't bother the entire world with your "jokes" - every message you send gets sent to thousands upon thousands of people, in case you didn't realize it by now. Unless this is cleaned up immediately - please remove me from this list. Remik On Oct 10, 2018, at 6:45 PM, Nathaniel B. Lyon > wrote: Unsubscribe Nathaniel B. Lyon | Founder, President NorthfieldWiFi | www.northfieldwifi.com 1403 Heritage Drive, Suite A | Northfield, MN 55057 (612) 991-4260 ext. 6 | nate.lyon at nfldwifi.net On Oct 10, 2018, at 8:41 PM, Brad Timberlake > wrote: unsubscribe _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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URL: From JGonzalez at computerinn.com Thu Oct 11 11:23:03 2018 From: JGonzalez at computerinn.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Gonz=E1lez?=) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 15:23:03 +0000 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: References: <1539207194_251921@surgemail.mnsi.net> , Message-ID: Unsubscribe! From: ARIN-discuss On Behalf Of Bruce Bridegwater Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 11:20 AM To: dotCOM host - Remik ; arin-discuss at arin.net; Chris Cappuccio Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM Unsubscribe! ________________________________ From: ARIN-discuss > on behalf of Chris Cappuccio > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 8:14:04 AM To: dotCOM host - Remik; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM Subscribe On 10/10/18 21:21, dotCOM host - Remik wrote: Unsubscribe This is NOT why I joined this list and I have no desire (or time) to see the juvenile Pedro/Trump/Kavanaugh/I Like Beer/Eleventy!!1! jokes. There are groups for that, if that's your thing. This is not it. This is an ARIN list. Keep it to ARIN news and info. If you can't - just don't bother the entire world with your "jokes" - every message you send gets sent to thousands upon thousands of people, in case you didn't realize it by now. Unless this is cleaned up immediately - please remove me from this list. Remik On Oct 10, 2018, at 6:45 PM, Nathaniel B. Lyon > wrote: Unsubscribe Nathaniel B. Lyon | Founder, President NorthfieldWiFi | www.northfieldwifi.com 1403 Heritage Drive, Suite A | Northfield, MN 55057 (612) 991-4260 ext. 6 | nate.lyon at nfldwifi.net On Oct 10, 2018, at 8:41 PM, Brad Timberlake > wrote: unsubscribe _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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Box 387 Portage, WI 53901 Desk: (608) 745-6339 Conference Call Number (Meet-Me) Outside: (608) 745-4660 Inside: x4660 dsachs at dshealthcare.com www.dshealthcare.com Upcoming absences: Because Life is Extraordinary From: ARIN-discuss [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Bridegwater Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 10:20 AM To: dotCOM host - Remik; arin-discuss at arin.net; Chris Cappuccio Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM Unsubscribe! ________________________________ From: ARIN-discuss > on behalf of Chris Cappuccio > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 8:14:04 AM To: dotCOM host - Remik; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM Subscribe On 10/10/18 21:21, dotCOM host - Remik wrote: Unsubscribe This is NOT why I joined this list and I have no desire (or time) to see the juvenile Pedro/Trump/Kavanaugh/I Like Beer/Eleventy!!1! jokes. There are groups for that, if that's your thing. This is not it. This is an ARIN list. Keep it to ARIN news and info. If you can't - just don't bother the entire world with your "jokes" - every message you send gets sent to thousands upon thousands of people, in case you didn't realize it by now. Unless this is cleaned up immediately - please remove me from this list. Remik On Oct 10, 2018, at 6:45 PM, Nathaniel B. Lyon > wrote: Unsubscribe Nathaniel B. Lyon | Founder, President NorthfieldWiFi | www.northfieldwifi.com 1403 Heritage Drive, Suite A | Northfield, MN 55057 (612) 991-4260 ext. 6 | nate.lyon at nfldwifi.net On Oct 10, 2018, at 8:41 PM, Brad Timberlake > wrote: unsubscribe _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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Gonz?lez Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 10:23 AM To: Bruce Bridegwater ; dotCOM host - Remik ; arin-discuss at arin.net; Chris Cappuccio Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM Unsubscribe! From: ARIN-discuss > On Behalf Of Bruce Bridegwater Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 11:20 AM To: dotCOM host - Remik >; arin-discuss at arin.net ; Chris Cappuccio > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM Unsubscribe! _____ From: ARIN-discuss > on behalf of Chris Cappuccio > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 8:14:04 AM To: dotCOM host - Remik; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM Subscribe On 10/10/18 21:21, dotCOM host - Remik wrote: Unsubscribe This is NOT why I joined this list and I have no desire (or time) to see the juvenile Pedro/Trump/Kavanaugh/I Like Beer/Eleventy!!1! jokes. There are groups for that, if that's your thing. This is not it. This is an ARIN list. Keep it to ARIN news and info. If you can't - just don't bother the entire world with your "jokes" - every message you send gets sent to thousands upon thousands of people, in case you didn't realize it by now. Unless this is cleaned up immediately - please remove me from this list. Remik On Oct 10, 2018, at 6:45 PM, Nathaniel B. Lyon > wrote: Unsubscribe Nathaniel B. Lyon | Founder, President NorthfieldWiFi | www.northfieldwifi.com 1403 Heritage Drive, Suite A | Northfield, MN 55057 (612) 991-4260 ext. 6 | nate.lyon at nfldwifi.net On Oct 10, 2018, at 8:41 PM, Brad Timberlake < bradt at pcsia.com> wrote: unsubscribe _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List ( ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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Box 387 Portage, WI 53901 Desk: (608) 745-6339 Conference Call Number (Meet-Me) Outside: (608) 745-4660 Inside: x4660 dsachs at dshealthcare.com www.dshealthcare.com Upcoming absences: Because Life is Extraordinary From: ARIN-discuss [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Bridegwater Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 10:20 AM To: dotCOM host - Remik; arin-discuss at arin.net; Chris Cappuccio Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM Unsubscribe! ________________________________ From: ARIN-discuss > on behalf of Chris Cappuccio > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 8:14:04 AM To: dotCOM host - Remik; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM Subscribe On 10/10/18 21:21, dotCOM host - Remik wrote: Unsubscribe This is NOT why I joined this list and I have no desire (or time) to see the juvenile Pedro/Trump/Kavanaugh/I Like Beer/Eleventy!!1! jokes. There are groups for that, if that's your thing. This is not it. This is an ARIN list. 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URL: From job at ntt.net Fri Oct 12 15:03:28 2018 From: job at ntt.net (Job Snijders) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 21:03:28 +0200 Subject: [arin-discuss] Update to RFC 7730 to allow for comments in RPKI TAL files Message-ID: <20181012190328.GB5430@hanna.meerval.net> Dear all, I wanted to draw attention to a small development in an update to RFC 7730 in the IETF SIDROPS working group. It'll be possible to put in comments (C header style) in RPKI TAL files. https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-sidrops-https-tal-05 This will open the door to (for example) include an "As Is" disclaimer in the RPKI TAL file itself. Kind regards, Job From shane at swayzee.com Fri Oct 12 16:04:21 2018 From: shane at swayzee.com (shane rolph) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 16:04:21 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] Update to RFC 7730 to allow for comments in RPKI TAL files In-Reply-To: <20181012190328.GB5430@hanna.meerval.net> References: <20181012190328.GB5430@hanna.meerval.net> Message-ID: <9eea3c15-2ddb-4dee-9d11-b979e9f99685@swayzee.com> Please take me off the list. ?Sent from BlueMail ? On Oct 12, 2018, 3:03 PM, at 3:03 PM, Job Snijders wrote: >Dear all, > >I wanted to draw attention to a small development in an update to RFC >7730 in the IETF SIDROPS working group. It'll be possible to put in >comments (C header style) in RPKI TAL files. > >https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-sidrops-https-tal-05 > >This will open the door to (for example) include an "As Is" disclaimer >in the RPKI TAL file itself. > >Kind regards, > >Job >_______________________________________________ >ARIN-Discuss >You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael at datates.com Fri Oct 12 18:51:50 2018 From: michael at datates.com (Michael McLain) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 15:51:50 -0700 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: <5b9842a1-2785-cf65-4303-daa9c86e62b9@ykwc.com> Message-ID: <20181012225156.1DF371043114@smtp1.arin.net> Love it, Chris.It's a deal. Michael Mclain20265 Rae Rd.Bend, Oregon 97702541-410-2265michael at datates.com -------- Original message --------From: Chris Cappuccio Date: 10/10/18 5:49 PM (GMT-08:00) To: Tab Fitts , Brock Courneya , David Collier Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM Vote for me and I'll get you into the Knights of Columbus. On 10/10/18 17:44, Tab Fitts wrote: Lmao. I don't think I've gotten spam from candidates, but ARIN has been calling and emailing me telling me not to forget to vote. Tab Fitts Founder/CEO Spry Servers, LLC On October 10, 2018 4:50:00 PM Brock Courneya wrote: ARIN-gate On Oct 10, 2018, at 4:34 PM, David Collier wrote: Nice!! Sent from my IPhone On Oct 10, 2018, at 6:00 PM, Scott, Michael via ARIN-discuss < -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hannigan at gmail.com Sun Oct 14 17:32:03 2018 From: hannigan at gmail.com (Martin Hannigan) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 17:32:03 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: <2556D5F6-42E7-4DDF-A15D-2D5E2761B7DB@pch.net> References: <2556D5F6-42E7-4DDF-A15D-2D5E2761B7DB@pch.net> Message-ID: For me, it was Peter Harrison. Best, -M< On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 17:54 Bill Woodcock wrote: > On Oct 10, 2018 17:33, Clayton Zekelman wrote: > > I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else > > receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board > > position this week? > > It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. > > Well, this seems like as good a place as any to bring it up. > > You may as well say which candidate it was from. > > -Bill > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From arik at nextcommunications.com Sun Oct 14 20:37:40 2018 From: arik at nextcommunications.com (Arik Next) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 20:37:40 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: References: <2556D5F6-42E7-4DDF-A15D-2D5E2761B7DB@pch.net> Message-ID: <229E608F-0114-4AA5-950E-F03601BCA154@nextcommunications.com> Right who do you want us to vote for ? All that emails and at the end the candidate remain unknown ? This is really disturbing. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 14, 2018, at 5:32 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote: > > > > For me, it was Peter Harrison. > > Best, > > -M< > > > >> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 17:54 Bill Woodcock wrote: >> On Oct 10, 2018 17:33, Clayton Zekelman wrote: >> > I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else >> > receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board >> > position this week? >> > It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. >> >> Well, this seems like as good a place as any to bring it up. >> >> You may as well say which candidate it was from. >> >> -Bill >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ARIN-Discuss >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hannigan at gmail.com Mon Oct 15 05:37:50 2018 From: hannigan at gmail.com (Martin Hannigan) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 05:37:50 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: <229E608F-0114-4AA5-950E-F03601BCA154@nextcommunications.com> References: <2556D5F6-42E7-4DDF-A15D-2D5E2761B7DB@pch.net> <229E608F-0114-4AA5-950E-F03601BCA154@nextcommunications.com> Message-ID: Note: Apologies if anyone doesn't want to discuss this on arin-discuss. I always assumed this list was intended for relevant discussions about ARIN with "PPML" being for policy discussions. As Rodney Joffe pointed out, there is a URL to a working unsubscribe function at the bottom of all ARIN lists AFAIK if this is problematic for anyone.The list is also tagged in the subject. It is quite easy to filter for later reading comfort. It is a nice way to approach any mailbox organization. While I have preferences for voting as an impact to the policy aspect and overall public interest in ARIN, I am not a DMR. My voting views are not relevant to the issue at hand. If there is one. Did I receive actual unsolicited commercial email "UCE"? I don't have a direct relationship with the sender. They weren't asking me for money or selling me anything other than themselves. On one hand, someone running for election seems to have a right per VA corporate law to access information identifying voters. On the other, I am not the DMR for any company at the moment. I don't speak for one either. My interest is solely as an internet citizen. Seems like a grey area with ARIN being between the rock and the hard place more than anything. \While in the era of Green Card Lawyers this would have been horrific, today it is not. It is 2018.I don't like spam in the traditional sense, but I am over it in the general sense. Spam filters, both automated and personally configured do well enough. Spam is never going away as long as there is anyone alive willing to send money to $scammer. I'll leave it to the pros and each individual as to what they think it is. For me, this isn't a really a debate about spam.H owever, I do think their is an issue for ARIN to consider for next time. Is email considered PII? What affect, if any, does that have on the required disclosure? https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/Legacy/SP/nistspecialpublication800-122.pdf https://www.dol.gov/general/ppii I doubt that my information was shared by ARIN, but it is possible. If it were, I'd be surprised as only DMRs have votes and while others may be listed in the ARIN database, they may not be entirely relevant to the statute. So was it spam? I don't know, but I'm not putting any more cycles into thinking about it. Food for though. For next time. $0.02 Best Regards, -M< On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 8:37 PM Arik Next wrote: > Right who do you want us to vote for ? All that emails and at the end the > candidate remain unknown ? This is really disturbing. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 14, 2018, at 5:32 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote: > > > > For me, it was Peter Harrison. > > Best, > > -M< > > > > On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 17:54 Bill Woodcock wrote: > >> On Oct 10, 2018 17:33, Clayton Zekelman wrote: >> > I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else >> > receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board >> > position this week? >> > It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. >> >> Well, this seems like as good a place as any to bring it up. >> >> You may as well say which candidate it was from. >> >> -Bill >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ARIN-Discuss >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >> > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From John.Ajjarapu at ironmountain.com Mon Oct 15 06:11:11 2018 From: John.Ajjarapu at ironmountain.com (Ajjarapu, John) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 10:11:11 +0000 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: References: <2556D5F6-42E7-4DDF-A15D-2D5E2761B7DB@pch.net> <229E608F-0114-4AA5-950E-F03601BCA154@nextcommunications.com>, Message-ID: Why am I getting these SPAM???? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 15, 2018, at 4:41 AM, Martin Hannigan > wrote: Note: Apologies if anyone doesn't want to discuss this on arin-discuss. I always assumed this list was intended for relevant discussions about ARIN with "PPML" being for policy discussions. As Rodney Joffe pointed out, there is a URL to a working unsubscribe function at the bottom of all ARIN lists AFAIK if this is problematic for anyone.The list is also tagged in the subject. It is quite easy to filter for later reading comfort. It is a nice way to approach any mailbox organization. While I have preferences for voting as an impact to the policy aspect and overall public interest in ARIN, I am not a DMR. My voting views are not relevant to the issue at hand. If there is one. Did I receive actual unsolicited commercial email "UCE"? I don't have a direct relationship with the sender. They weren't asking me for money or selling me anything other than themselves. On one hand, someone running for election seems to have a right per VA corporate law to access information identifying voters. On the other, I am not the DMR for any company at the moment. I don't speak for one either. My interest is solely as an internet citizen. Seems like a grey area with ARIN being between the rock and the hard place more than anything. \While in the era of Green Card Lawyers this would have been horrific, today it is not. It is 2018.I don't like spam in the traditional sense, but I am over it in the general sense. Spam filters, both automated and personally configured do well enough. Spam is never going away as long as there is anyone alive willing to send money to $scammer. I'll leave it to the pros and each individual as to what they think it is. For me, this isn't a really a debate about spam.H owever, I do think their is an issue for ARIN to consider for next time. Is email considered PII? What affect, if any, does that have on the required disclosure? https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/Legacy/SP/nistspecialpublication800-122.pdf https://www.dol.gov/general/ppii I doubt that my information was shared by ARIN, but it is possible. If it were, I'd be surprised as only DMRs have votes and while others may be listed in the ARIN database, they may not be entirely relevant to the statute. So was it spam? I don't know, but I'm not putting any more cycles into thinking about it. Food for though. For next time. $0.02 Best Regards, -M< On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 8:37 PM Arik Next > wrote: Right who do you want us to vote for ? All that emails and at the end the candidate remain unknown ? This is really disturbing. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2018, at 5:32 PM, Martin Hannigan > wrote: For me, it was Peter Harrison. Best, -M< On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 17:54 Bill Woodcock > wrote: On Oct 10, 2018 17:33, Clayton Zekelman > wrote: > I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else > receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board > position this week? > It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. Well, this seems like as good a place as any to bring it up. You may as well say which candidate it was from. -Bill _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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I always assumed this list was intended for relevant discussions about ARIN with "PPML" being for policy discussions. As Rodney Joffe pointed out, there is a URL to a working unsubscribe function at the bottom of all ARIN lists AFAIK if this is problematic for anyone.The list is also tagged in the subject. It is quite easy to filter for later reading comfort. It is a nice way to approach any mailbox organization. While I have preferences for voting as an impact to the policy aspect and overall public interest in ARIN, I am not a DMR. My voting views are not relevant to the issue at hand. If there is one. Did I receive actual unsolicited commercial email "UCE"? I don't have a direct relationship with the sender. They weren't asking me for money or selling me anything other than themselves. On one hand, someone running for election seems to have a right per VA corporate law to access information identifying voters. On the other, I am not the DMR for any company at the moment. I don't speak for one either. My interest is solely as an internet citizen. Seems like a grey area with ARIN being between the rock and the hard place more than anything. \While in the era of Green Card Lawyers this would have been horrific, today it is not. It is 2018.I don't like spam in the traditional sense, but I am over it in the general sense. Spam filters, both automated and personally configured do well enough. Spam is never going away as long as there is anyone alive willing to send money to $scammer. I'll leave it to the pros and each individual as to what they think it is. For me, this isn't a really a debate about spam.H owever, I do think their is an issue for ARIN to consider for next time. Is email considered PII? What affect, if any, does that have on the required disclosure? https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/Legacy/SP/nistspecialpublication800-122.pdf https://www.dol.gov/general/ppii I doubt that my information was shared by ARIN, but it is possible. If it were, I'd be surprised as only DMRs have votes and while others may be listed in the ARIN database, they may not be entirely relevant to the statute. So was it spam? I don't know, but I'm not putting any more cycles into thinking about it. Food for though. For next time. $0.02 Best Regards, -M< On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 8:37 PM Arik Next < arik at nextcommunications.com > wrote:
Right who do you want us to vote for ? All that emails and at the end the candidate remain unknown ? This is really disturbing. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2018, at 5:32 PM, Martin Hannigan < hannigan at gmail.com > wrote:
For me, it was Peter Harrison. Best, -M< On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 17:54 Bill Woodcock < woody at pch.net > wrote:
On Oct 10, 2018 17:33, Clayton Zekelman < clayton at MNSi.Net > wrote: > I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else > receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board > position this week? > It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. Well, this seems like as good a place as any to bring it up. You may as well say which candidate it was from. -Bill _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List ( ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues.
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It's a figment of your imagination. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > > > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > > > The Brothers WISP > > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"John Ajjarapu" > *To: *"Martin Hannigan" > *Cc: *arin-discuss at arin.net > *Sent: *Monday, October 15, 2018 5:11:11 AM > *Subject: *Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM > > Why am I getting these SPAM???? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 15, 2018, at 4:41 AM, Martin Hannigan wrote: > > > Note: Apologies if anyone doesn't want to discuss this on arin-discuss. I > always assumed this list was intended for relevant discussions about ARIN > with "PPML" being for policy discussions. As Rodney Joffe pointed out, > there is a URL to a working unsubscribe function at the bottom of all ARIN > lists AFAIK if this is problematic for anyone.The list is also tagged in > the subject. It is quite easy to filter for later reading comfort. It is a > nice way to approach any mailbox organization. > > While I have preferences for voting as an impact to the policy aspect and > overall public interest in ARIN, I am not a DMR. My voting views are not > relevant to the issue at hand. If there is one. Did I receive actual > unsolicited commercial email "UCE"? I don't have a direct relationship with > the sender. They weren't asking me for money or selling me anything other > than themselves. On one hand, someone running for election seems to have a > right per VA corporate law to access information identifying voters. On the > other, I am not the DMR for any company at the moment. I don't speak for > one either. My interest is solely as an internet citizen. Seems like a grey > area with ARIN being between the rock and the hard place more than > anything. > > \While in the era of Green Card Lawyers this would have been horrific, > today it is not. It is 2018.I don't like spam in the traditional sense, but > I am over it in the general sense. Spam filters, both automated and > personally configured do well enough. Spam is never going away as long as > there is anyone alive willing to send money to $scammer. I'll leave it to > the pros and each individual as to what they think it is. For me, this > isn't a really a debate about spam.H owever, I do think their is an issue > for ARIN to consider for next time. Is email considered PII? What affect, > if any, does that have on the required disclosure? > > > https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/Legacy/SP/nistspecialpublication800-122.pdf > > https://www.dol.gov/general/ppii > > > I doubt that my information was shared by ARIN, but it is possible. If it > were, I'd be surprised as only DMRs have votes and while others may be > listed in the ARIN database, they may not be entirely relevant to the > statute. So was it spam? I don't know, but I'm not putting any more cycles > into thinking about it. > > Food for though. For next time. $0.02 > > Best Regards, > > -M< > > > On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 8:37 PM Arik Next > wrote: > >> Right who do you want us to vote for ? All that emails and at the end the >> candidate remain unknown ? This is really disturbing. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Oct 14, 2018, at 5:32 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote: >> >> >> >> For me, it was Peter Harrison. >> >> Best, >> >> -M< >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 17:54 Bill Woodcock wrote: >> >>> On Oct 10, 2018 17:33, Clayton Zekelman wrote: >>> > I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else >>> > receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board >>> > position this week? >>> > It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. >>> >>> Well, this seems like as good a place as any to bring it up. >>> >>> You may as well say which candidate it was from. >>> >>> -Bill >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ARIN-Discuss >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>> >>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> ARIN-Discuss >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >> >> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >> >> _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.arin.net_mailman_listinfo_arin-2Ddiscuss&d=DwICAg&c=Ro8Q4dnX1SNK_vCgNOhSveITMHXvJUsDIFqhHVlop24&r=_XUfmYZDwwobyZKwc42FnWWoVpR9ht7UoXYluNI9XQE&m=lAzX0_tsVRlZG8CXb4UlMVi4p1K_bcK3G84CAULtack&s=tLmXpUhqH728VbWUtmxU92mr7mZYepJlz8JqseE6fa4&e= > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > ------------------------------ > The information contained in this email message and its attachments is > intended only for the private and confidential use of the recipient(s) > named above, unless the sender expressly agrees otherwise. 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URL: From vladimir at king-servers.com Mon Oct 15 11:46:05 2018 From: vladimir at king-servers.com (Vladimir Fomenko) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 18:46:05 +0300 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: References: <2556D5F6-42E7-4DDF-A15D-2D5E2761B7DB@pch.net> <229E608F-0114-4AA5-950E-F03601BCA154@nextcommunications.com> <786288456.152.1539606724109.JavaMail.mhammett@ThunderFuck> Message-ID: <062ae84f-f275-8507-0c12-188a8530dc74@king-servers.com> Why does everyone discuss this newsletter and not the text in it? :) 15/10/2018 18:39, Michael Zindel ?????: > I'm puzzled by how many people aren't interested in the goings-on of > ARIN and refer to it as spam. > > On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 6:35 AM Mike Hammett > wrote: > > You're not. It's a figment of your imagination. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > The Brothers WISP > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From: *"John Ajjarapu" > > *To: *"Martin Hannigan" > > *Cc: *arin-discuss at arin.net > *Sent: *Monday, October 15, 2018 5:11:11 AM > *Subject: *Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM > > Why am I getting these SPAM???? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 15, 2018, at 4:41 AM, Martin Hannigan > wrote: > > > Note: Apologies if anyone doesn't want to discuss this on > arin-discuss. I always assumed this list was intended for > relevant discussions about ARIN with "PPML" being for policy > discussions. As Rodney Joffe pointed out, there is a URL to a > working unsubscribe function at the bottom of all ARIN lists > AFAIK if this is problematic for anyone.The list is also tagged > in the subject. It is quite easy to filter for later reading > comfort. It is a nice way to approach any mailbox organization. > > While I have preferences for voting as an impact to the policy > aspect and overall public interest in ARIN, I am not a DMR. My > voting views are not relevant to the issue at hand. If there is > one. Did I receive actual unsolicited commercial email "UCE"? I > don't have a direct relationship with the sender. They weren't > asking me for money or selling me anything other than > themselves. On one hand, someone running for election seems to > have a right per VA corporate law to access information > identifying voters. On the other, I am not the DMR for any > company at the moment. I don't speak for one either. My interest > is solely as an internet citizen. Seems like a grey area with > ARIN being between the rock and the hard place more than anything. > > \While in the era of Green Card Lawyers this would have been > horrific, today it is not. It is 2018.I don't like spam in the > traditional sense, but I am over it in the general sense. Spam > filters, both automated and personally configured do well > enough. Spam is never going away as long as there is anyone > alive willing to send money to $scammer. I'll leave it to the > pros and each individual as to what they think it is. For me, > this isn't a really a debate about spam.H owever, I do think > their is an issue for ARIN to consider for next time. Is email > considered PII? What affect, if any, does that have on the > required disclosure? > > https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/Legacy/SP/nistspecialpublication800-122.pdf > > https://www.dol.gov/general/ppii > > > I doubt that my information was shared by ARIN, but it is > possible. If it were, I'd be surprised as only DMRs have votes > and while others may be listed in the ARIN database, they may > not be entirely relevant to the statute. So was it spam? I don't > know, but I'm not putting any more cycles into thinking about it. > > Food for though. For next time. $0.02 > > Best Regards, > > -M< > > > On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 8:37 PM Arik Next > > wrote: > > Right who do you want us to vote for ? All that emails and > at the end the candidate remain unknown ? This is really > disturbing. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 14, 2018, at 5:32 PM, Martin Hannigan > > wrote: > > > > For me, it was Peter Harrison. > > Best, > > -M< > > > > On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 17:54 Bill Woodcock > > wrote: > > On Oct 10, 2018 17:33, Clayton Zekelman > > wrote: > > I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, > but did anyone else > > receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running > for an ARIN board > > position this week? > > It appears that they harvested my e-mail address > from my POC record. > > Well, this seems like as good a place as any to > bring it up. > > You may as well say which candidate it was from. > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? -Bill > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are > subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > > Please contact info at arin.net > if you experience any issues. > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net > ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > > Please contact info at arin.net if > you experience any issues. > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net > ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.arin.net_mailman_listinfo_arin-2Ddiscuss&d=DwICAg&c=Ro8Q4dnX1SNK_vCgNOhSveITMHXvJUsDIFqhHVlop24&r=_XUfmYZDwwobyZKwc42FnWWoVpR9ht7UoXYluNI9XQE&m=lAzX0_tsVRlZG8CXb4UlMVi4p1K_bcK3G84CAULtack&s=tLmXpUhqH728VbWUtmxU92mr7mZYepJlz8JqseE6fa4&e= > Please contact info at arin.net if you > experience any issues. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The information contained in this email message and its attachments > is intended only for the private and confidential use of the > recipient(s) named above, unless the sender expressly agrees > otherwise. 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If you have received this communication in error, please > notify us immediately by email and delete the original message. > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net > ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you > experience any issues. > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net > ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you > experience any issues. > > > > -- > Michael Zindel // CEO | Liberty Broadband > O: 385.626.0096 | E: michael.zindel at libertybroadband.site > > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > -- Vladimir Fomenko Director of LLC "Server Technologies", King Servers B.V. t.me: @fvladimir *www.king-servers.com* From josh at imaginenetworksllc.com Mon Oct 15 11:47:08 2018 From: josh at imaginenetworksllc.com (Josh Luthman) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 11:47:08 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: References: <2556D5F6-42E7-4DDF-A15D-2D5E2761B7DB@pch.net> <229E608F-0114-4AA5-950E-F03601BCA154@nextcommunications.com> <786288456.152.1539606724109.JavaMail.mhammett@ThunderFuck> Message-ID: The first issue was being solicited for votes. The second real issue is the 50+ posts about the first non issue. This is what's annoying to me and many others in this list/thread. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Oct 15, 2018, 11:42 AM Michael Zindel wrote: > I'm puzzled by how many people aren't interested in the goings-on of ARIN > and refer to it as spam. > > On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 6:35 AM Mike Hammett > wrote: > >> You're not. It's a figment of your imagination. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> >> >> >> >> Midwest Internet Exchange >> >> >> >> The Brothers WISP >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"John Ajjarapu" >> *To: *"Martin Hannigan" >> *Cc: *arin-discuss at arin.net >> *Sent: *Monday, October 15, 2018 5:11:11 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM >> >> Why am I getting these SPAM???? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Oct 15, 2018, at 4:41 AM, Martin Hannigan wrote: >> >> >> Note: Apologies if anyone doesn't want to discuss this on arin-discuss. I >> always assumed this list was intended for relevant discussions about ARIN >> with "PPML" being for policy discussions. As Rodney Joffe pointed out, >> there is a URL to a working unsubscribe function at the bottom of all ARIN >> lists AFAIK if this is problematic for anyone.The list is also tagged in >> the subject. It is quite easy to filter for later reading comfort. It is a >> nice way to approach any mailbox organization. >> >> While I have preferences for voting as an impact to the policy aspect and >> overall public interest in ARIN, I am not a DMR. My voting views are not >> relevant to the issue at hand. If there is one. Did I receive actual >> unsolicited commercial email "UCE"? I don't have a direct relationship with >> the sender. They weren't asking me for money or selling me anything other >> than themselves. On one hand, someone running for election seems to have a >> right per VA corporate law to access information identifying voters. On the >> other, I am not the DMR for any company at the moment. I don't speak for >> one either. My interest is solely as an internet citizen. Seems like a grey >> area with ARIN being between the rock and the hard place more than >> anything. >> >> \While in the era of Green Card Lawyers this would have been horrific, >> today it is not. It is 2018.I don't like spam in the traditional sense, but >> I am over it in the general sense. Spam filters, both automated and >> personally configured do well enough. Spam is never going away as long as >> there is anyone alive willing to send money to $scammer. I'll leave it to >> the pros and each individual as to what they think it is. For me, this >> isn't a really a debate about spam.H owever, I do think their is an issue >> for ARIN to consider for next time. Is email considered PII? What affect, >> if any, does that have on the required disclosure? >> >> >> https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/Legacy/SP/nistspecialpublication800-122.pdf >> >> https://www.dol.gov/general/ppii >> >> >> I doubt that my information was shared by ARIN, but it is possible. If it >> were, I'd be surprised as only DMRs have votes and while others may be >> listed in the ARIN database, they may not be entirely relevant to the >> statute. So was it spam? I don't know, but I'm not putting any more cycles >> into thinking about it. >> >> Food for though. For next time. $0.02 >> >> Best Regards, >> >> -M< >> >> >> On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 8:37 PM Arik Next >> wrote: >> >>> Right who do you want us to vote for ? All that emails and at the end >>> the candidate remain unknown ? This is really disturbing. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Oct 14, 2018, at 5:32 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> For me, it was Peter Harrison. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> -M< >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 17:54 Bill Woodcock wrote: >>> >>>> On Oct 10, 2018 17:33, Clayton Zekelman wrote: >>>> > I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else >>>> > receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board >>>> > position this week? >>>> > It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. >>>> >>>> Well, this seems like as good a place as any to bring it up. >>>> >>>> You may as well say which candidate it was from. >>>> >>>> -Bill >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> ARIN-Discuss >>>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >>>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>>> >>>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ARIN-Discuss >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>> >>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> ARIN-Discuss >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.arin.net_mailman_listinfo_arin-2Ddiscuss&d=DwICAg&c=Ro8Q4dnX1SNK_vCgNOhSveITMHXvJUsDIFqhHVlop24&r=_XUfmYZDwwobyZKwc42FnWWoVpR9ht7UoXYluNI9XQE&m=lAzX0_tsVRlZG8CXb4UlMVi4p1K_bcK3G84CAULtack&s=tLmXpUhqH728VbWUtmxU92mr7mZYepJlz8JqseE6fa4&e= >> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >> >> ------------------------------ >> The information contained in this email message and its attachments is >> intended only for the private and confidential use of the recipient(s) >> named above, unless the sender expressly agrees otherwise. 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URL: From dave at dataspindle.com Mon Oct 15 11:47:28 2018 From: dave at dataspindle.com (David Sgro, Dataspindle) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 15:47:28 +0000 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: References: <2556D5F6-42E7-4DDF-A15D-2D5E2761B7DB@pch.net> <229E608F-0114-4AA5-950E-F03601BCA154@nextcommunications.com> <786288456.152.1539606724109.JavaMail.mhammett@ThunderFuck>, Message-ID: If you manage IP space or run a network and dont understand what a listserv is, or how it works... its a sad day for TCP/IP Sent from my BlackBerry - the most secure mobile device From: michael.zindel at libertybroadband.site Sent: October 15, 2018 11:44 AM To: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM I'm puzzled by how many people aren't interested in the goings-on of ARIN and refer to it as spam. On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 6:35 AM Mike Hammett > wrote: You're not. It's a figment of your imagination. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png][http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png][http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png][http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png] Midwest Internet Exchange [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png][http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png][http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png] The Brothers WISP [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png][http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png] ________________________________ From: "John Ajjarapu" > To: "Martin Hannigan" > Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 5:11:11 AM Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM Why am I getting these SPAM???? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 15, 2018, at 4:41 AM, Martin Hannigan > wrote: Note: Apologies if anyone doesn't want to discuss this on arin-discuss. I always assumed this list was intended for relevant discussions about ARIN with "PPML" being for policy discussions. As Rodney Joffe pointed out, there is a URL to a working unsubscribe function at the bottom of all ARIN lists AFAIK if this is problematic for anyone.The list is also tagged in the subject. It is quite easy to filter for later reading comfort. It is a nice way to approach any mailbox organization. While I have preferences for voting as an impact to the policy aspect and overall public interest in ARIN, I am not a DMR. My voting views are not relevant to the issue at hand. If there is one. Did I receive actual unsolicited commercial email "UCE"? I don't have a direct relationship with the sender. They weren't asking me for money or selling me anything other than themselves. On one hand, someone running for election seems to have a right per VA corporate law to access information identifying voters. On the other, I am not the DMR for any company at the moment. I don't speak for one either. My interest is solely as an internet citizen. Seems like a grey area with ARIN being between the rock and the hard place more than anything. \While in the era of Green Card Lawyers this would have been horrific, today it is not. It is 2018.I don't like spam in the traditional sense, but I am over it in the general sense. Spam filters, both automated and personally configured do well enough. Spam is never going away as long as there is anyone alive willing to send money to $scammer. I'll leave it to the pros and each individual as to what they think it is. For me, this isn't a really a debate about spam.H owever, I do think their is an issue for ARIN to consider for next time. Is email considered PII? What affect, if any, does that have on the required disclosure? https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/Legacy/SP/nistspecialpublication800-122.pdf https://www.dol.gov/general/ppii I doubt that my information was shared by ARIN, but it is possible. If it were, I'd be surprised as only DMRs have votes and while others may be listed in the ARIN database, they may not be entirely relevant to the statute. So was it spam? I don't know, but I'm not putting any more cycles into thinking about it. Food for though. For next time. $0.02 Best Regards, -M< On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 8:37 PM Arik Next > wrote: Right who do you want us to vote for ? All that emails and at the end the candidate remain unknown ? This is really disturbing. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2018, at 5:32 PM, Martin Hannigan > wrote: For me, it was Peter Harrison. Best, -M< On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 17:54 Bill Woodcock > wrote: On Oct 10, 2018 17:33, Clayton Zekelman > wrote: > I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else > receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board > position this week? > It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. Well, this seems like as good a place as any to bring it up. You may as well say which candidate it was from. -Bill _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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URL: From vkent at cloudit.co Mon Oct 15 11:52:50 2018 From: vkent at cloudit.co (Vince Kent) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 15:52:50 +0000 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: References: <2556D5F6-42E7-4DDF-A15D-2D5E2761B7DB@pch.net> <229E608F-0114-4AA5-950E-F03601BCA154@nextcommunications.com> <786288456.152.1539606724109.JavaMail.mhammett@ThunderFuck> Message-ID: I don?t mind the initial messages but the hundreds of emails I have gotten from everyone saying unsubscribe is rather annoying. I told myself I wouldn?t respond because that would further the chain but here I am. ? cloudIT Vince Kent | CEO | cloudIT vkent at cloudit.co | 602-875-5454 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the intended recipients. If you are not an intended recipient you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. 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It's a figment of your imagination. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png][http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png][http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png][http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png] Midwest Internet Exchange [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png][http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png][http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png] The Brothers WISP [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png][http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png] ________________________________ From: "John Ajjarapu" > To: "Martin Hannigan" > Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 5:11:11 AM Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM Why am I getting these SPAM???? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 15, 2018, at 4:41 AM, Martin Hannigan > wrote: Note: Apologies if anyone doesn't want to discuss this on arin-discuss. I always assumed this list was intended for relevant discussions about ARIN with "PPML" being for policy discussions. As Rodney Joffe pointed out, there is a URL to a working unsubscribe function at the bottom of all ARIN lists AFAIK if this is problematic for anyone.The list is also tagged in the subject. It is quite easy to filter for later reading comfort. It is a nice way to approach any mailbox organization. While I have preferences for voting as an impact to the policy aspect and overall public interest in ARIN, I am not a DMR. My voting views are not relevant to the issue at hand. If there is one. Did I receive actual unsolicited commercial email "UCE"? I don't have a direct relationship with the sender. They weren't asking me for money or selling me anything other than themselves. On one hand, someone running for election seems to have a right per VA corporate law to access information identifying voters. On the other, I am not the DMR for any company at the moment. I don't speak for one either. My interest is solely as an internet citizen. Seems like a grey area with ARIN being between the rock and the hard place more than anything. \While in the era of Green Card Lawyers this would have been horrific, today it is not. It is 2018.I don't like spam in the traditional sense, but I am over it in the general sense. Spam filters, both automated and personally configured do well enough. Spam is never going away as long as there is anyone alive willing to send money to $scammer. I'll leave it to the pros and each individual as to what they think it is. For me, this isn't a really a debate about spam.H owever, I do think their is an issue for ARIN to consider for next time. Is email considered PII? What affect, if any, does that have on the required disclosure? https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/Legacy/SP/nistspecialpublication800-122.pdf https://www.dol.gov/general/ppii I doubt that my information was shared by ARIN, but it is possible. If it were, I'd be surprised as only DMRs have votes and while others may be listed in the ARIN database, they may not be entirely relevant to the statute. So was it spam? I don't know, but I'm not putting any more cycles into thinking about it. Food for though. For next time. $0.02 Best Regards, -M< On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 8:37 PM Arik Next > wrote: Right who do you want us to vote for ? All that emails and at the end the candidate remain unknown ? This is really disturbing. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2018, at 5:32 PM, Martin Hannigan > wrote: For me, it was Peter Harrison. Best, -M< On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 17:54 Bill Woodcock > wrote: On Oct 10, 2018 17:33, Clayton Zekelman > wrote: > I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else > receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board > position this week? > It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. Well, this seems like as good a place as any to bring it up. You may as well say which candidate it was from. -Bill _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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URL: From steve at rack911.com Mon Oct 15 11:57:51 2018 From: steve at rack911.com (Steven Ciaburri) Date: 15 Oct 2018 11:57:51 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: References: <2556D5F6-42E7-4DDF-A15D-2D5E2761B7DB@pch.net> <229E608F-0114-4AA5-950E-F03601BCA154@nextcommunications.com> <786288456.152.1539606724109.JavaMail.mhammett@ThunderFuck> Message-ID: <5a691d6c-70eb-440f-bc1a-8f455afea2ac@mtasv.net> I don't know why everyone doesn't just let this die and stop responding to it... On 10/15/2018 8:52 AM, Vince Kent wrote: > > I don?t mind the initial messages but the hundreds of emails I have > gotten from everyone saying unsubscribe is rather annoying. I told > myself I wouldn?t respond because that would further the chain but > here I am. ? > > ? > > > cloudIT > Vince?Kent? ?|? CEO ?|? cloudIT > > *vkent at cloudit.co* ?|? *602-875-5454* > > > This message contains confidential information and is intended only > for the intended recipients. If you are not an intended recipient you > should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify > the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by > mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission > cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could > be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, > or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for > any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise > as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please > request a hard-copy version. > > > *From:* ARIN-discuss *On Behalf Of > *Michael Zindel > *Sent:* Monday, October 15, 2018 8:39 AM > *To:* arin-discuss at arin.net > *Subject:* Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM > > ? > > I'm puzzled by how many people aren't interested in the goings-on of > ARIN and refer to it as spam.?? > > ? > > On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 6:35 AM Mike Hammett > wrote: > > You're not. It's a figment of your imagination. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > The Brothers WISP > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From: *"John Ajjarapu" > > *To: *"Martin Hannigan" > > *Cc: *arin-discuss at arin.net > *Sent: *Monday, October 15, 2018 5:11:11 AM > *Subject: *Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM > > Why am I getting these SPAM???? > > ? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 15, 2018, at 4:41 AM, Martin Hannigan > wrote: > > ? > > Note: Apologies if anyone doesn't want to discuss this on > arin-discuss. I always assumed this list was intended for > relevant discussions about ARIN with "PPML" being for policy > discussions. As Rodney Joffe pointed out, there is a URL to a > working unsubscribe function at the bottom of all ARIN lists > AFAIK if this is problematic for anyone.The list is also > tagged in the subject. It is quite easy to filter for later > reading comfort. It is a nice way to approach any mailbox > organization. > > ? > > While I have preferences for voting as an impact to the policy > aspect and overall public interest in ARIN, I am not a DMR. My > voting views are not relevant to the issue at hand. If there > is one. Did I receive actual unsolicited commercial email > "UCE"? I don't have a direct relationship with the sender. > They weren't asking me for money or selling me anything other > than themselves. On one hand, someone running for election > seems to have a right per VA corporate law to access > information identifying voters. On the other, I am not the DMR > for any company at the moment. I don't speak for one either. > My interest is solely as an internet citizen. Seems like a > grey area with ARIN being between the rock and the hard place > more than anything. > > ? > > \While in the era of Green Card Lawyers this would have been > horrific, today it is not. It is 2018.I don't like spam in the > traditional sense, but I am over it in the general sense. Spam > filters, both automated and personally configured do well > enough. Spam is never going away as long as there is anyone > alive willing to send money to $scammer. I'll leave it to the > pros and each individual as to what they think it is. For me, > this isn't a really a debate about spam.H owever, I do think > their is an issue for ARIN to consider for next time. Is email > considered PII? What affect, if any, does that have on the > required disclosure? > > ? > > https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/Legacy/SP/nistspecialpublication800-122.pdf > > > https://www.dol.gov/general/ppii > > > ? > > I doubt that my information was shared by ARIN, but it is > possible. If it were, I'd be surprised as only DMRs have votes > and while others may be listed in the ARIN database, they may > not be entirely relevant to the statute. So was it spam? I > don't know, but I'm not putting any more cycles into thinking > about it. > > ? > > Food for though. For next time. $0.02 > > ? > > Best Regards, > > ? > > -M< > > ? > > ? > > On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 8:37 PM Arik Next > > wrote: > > Right who do you want us to vote for ? All that emails and > at the end the candidate remain unknown ? This is really > disturbing.? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 14, 2018, at 5:32 PM, Martin Hannigan > > wrote: > > ? > > ? > > For me, it was Peter Harrison.? > > ? > > Best, > > ? > > -M< > > ? > > ? > > ? > > On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 17:54 Bill Woodcock > > wrote: > > On Oct 10, 2018 17:33, Clayton Zekelman > > wrote: > > I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it > up, but did anyone else > > receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running > for an ARIN board > > position this week? > > It appears that they harvested my e-mail address > from my POC record. > > Well, this seems like as good a place as any to > bring it up. > > You may as well say which candidate it was from. > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? -Bill > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are > subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net > ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list > subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > > Please contact info at arin.net > if you experience any issues. > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are > subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > > Please contact info at arin.net if > you experience any issues. > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net > ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.arin.net_mailman_listinfo_arin-2Ddiscuss&d=DwICAg&c=Ro8Q4dnX1SNK_vCgNOhSveITMHXvJUsDIFqhHVlop24&r=_XUfmYZDwwobyZKwc42FnWWoVpR9ht7UoXYluNI9XQE&m=lAzX0_tsVRlZG8CXb4UlMVi4p1K_bcK3G84CAULtack&s=tLmXpUhqH728VbWUtmxU92mr7mZYepJlz8JqseE6fa4&e= > Please contact info at arin.net if you > experience any issues. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > The information contained in this email message and its > attachments is intended only for the private and confidential use > of the recipient(s) named above, unless the sender expressly > agrees otherwise. 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I told > myself I wouldn?t respond because that would further the chain but > here I am. ? > > > cloudIT > Vince?Kent? ?| CEO ?| cloudIT > > *vkent at cloudit.co* ?| *602-875-5454* > > > This message contains confidential information and is intended only > for the intended recipients. If you are not an intended recipient you > should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify > the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by > mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission > cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could > be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, > or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for > any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise > as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please > request a hard-copy version. > > > *From:* ARIN-discuss *On Behalf Of > *Michael Zindel > *Sent:* Monday, October 15, 2018 8:39 AM > *To:* arin-discuss at arin.net > *Subject:* Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM > > I'm puzzled by how many people aren't interested in the goings-on of > ARIN and refer to it as spam. > > On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 6:35 AM Mike Hammett > wrote: > > You're not. It's a figment of your imagination. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > The Brothers WISP > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From: *"John Ajjarapu" > > *To: *"Martin Hannigan" > > *Cc: *arin-discuss at arin.net > *Sent: *Monday, October 15, 2018 5:11:11 AM > *Subject: *Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM > > Why am I getting these SPAM???? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 15, 2018, at 4:41 AM, Martin Hannigan > wrote: > > Note: Apologies if anyone doesn't want to discuss this on > arin-discuss. I always assumed this list was intended for > relevant discussions about ARIN with "PPML" being for policy > discussions. As Rodney Joffe pointed out, there is a URL to a > working unsubscribe function at the bottom of all ARIN lists > AFAIK if this is problematic for anyone.The list is also > tagged in the subject. It is quite easy to filter for later > reading comfort. It is a nice way to approach any mailbox > organization. > > While I have preferences for voting as an impact to the policy > aspect and overall public interest in ARIN, I am not a DMR. My > voting views are not relevant to the issue at hand. If there > is one. Did I receive actual unsolicited commercial email > "UCE"? I don't have a direct relationship with the sender. > They weren't asking me for money or selling me anything other > than themselves. On one hand, someone running for election > seems to have a right per VA corporate law to access > information identifying voters. On the other, I am not the DMR > for any company at the moment. I don't speak for one either. > My interest is solely as an internet citizen. Seems like a > grey area with ARIN being between the rock and the hard place > more than anything. > > \While in the era of Green Card Lawyers this would have been > horrific, today it is not. It is 2018.I don't like spam in the > traditional sense, but I am over it in the general sense. Spam > filters, both automated and personally configured do well > enough. Spam is never going away as long as there is anyone > alive willing to send money to $scammer. I'll leave it to the > pros and each individual as to what they think it is. For me, > this isn't a really a debate about spam.H owever, I do think > their is an issue for ARIN to consider for next time. Is email > considered PII? What affect, if any, does that have on the > required disclosure? > > https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/Legacy/SP/nistspecialpublication800-122.pdf > > > https://www.dol.gov/general/ppii > > > I doubt that my information was shared by ARIN, but it is > possible. If it were, I'd be surprised as only DMRs have votes > and while others may be listed in the ARIN database, they may > not be entirely relevant to the statute. So was it spam? I > don't know, but I'm not putting any more cycles into thinking > about it. > > Food for though. For next time. $0.02 > > Best Regards, > > -M< > > On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 8:37 PM Arik Next > > wrote: > > Right who do you want us to vote for ? All that emails and > at the end the candidate remain unknown ? This is really > disturbing. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 14, 2018, at 5:32 PM, Martin Hannigan > > wrote: > > For me, it was Peter Harrison. > > Best, > > -M< > > On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 17:54 Bill Woodcock > > wrote: > > On Oct 10, 2018 17:33, Clayton Zekelman > > wrote: > > I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it > up, but did anyone else > > receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running > for an ARIN board > > position this week? > > It appears that they harvested my e-mail address > from my POC record. > > Well, this seems like as good a place as any to > bring it up. > > You may as well say which candidate it was from. > > ? ? ? ? ? -Bill > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are > subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net > ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list > subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > > Please contact info at arin.net > if you experience any issues. > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are > subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > > Please contact info at arin.net if > you experience any issues. > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net > ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.arin.net_mailman_listinfo_arin-2Ddiscuss&d=DwICAg&c=Ro8Q4dnX1SNK_vCgNOhSveITMHXvJUsDIFqhHVlop24&r=_XUfmYZDwwobyZKwc42FnWWoVpR9ht7UoXYluNI9XQE&m=lAzX0_tsVRlZG8CXb4UlMVi4p1K_bcK3G84CAULtack&s=tLmXpUhqH728VbWUtmxU92mr7mZYepJlz8JqseE6fa4&e= > Please contact info at arin.net if you > experience any issues. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > The information contained in this email message and its > attachments is intended only for the private and confidential use > of the recipient(s) named above, unless the sender expressly > agrees otherwise. 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Get Outlook for Android ________________________________ From: ARIN-discuss on behalf of David Sgro, Dataspindle Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 11:47:28 AM To: Michael Zindel; Scott, Michael via ARIN-discuss Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM If you manage IP space or run a network and dont understand what a listserv is, or how it works... its a sad day for TCP/IP Sent from my BlackBerry - the most secure mobile device From: michael.zindel at libertybroadband.site Sent: October 15, 2018 11:44 AM To: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM I'm puzzled by how many people aren't interested in the goings-on of ARIN and refer to it as spam. On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 6:35 AM Mike Hammett > wrote: You're not. It's a figment of your imagination. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png][http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png][http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png][http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png] Midwest Internet Exchange [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png][http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png][http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png] The Brothers WISP [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png][http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png] ________________________________ From: "John Ajjarapu" > To: "Martin Hannigan" > Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 5:11:11 AM Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM Why am I getting these SPAM???? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 15, 2018, at 4:41 AM, Martin Hannigan > wrote: Note: Apologies if anyone doesn't want to discuss this on arin-discuss. I always assumed this list was intended for relevant discussions about ARIN with "PPML" being for policy discussions. As Rodney Joffe pointed out, there is a URL to a working unsubscribe function at the bottom of all ARIN lists AFAIK if this is problematic for anyone.The list is also tagged in the subject. It is quite easy to filter for later reading comfort. It is a nice way to approach any mailbox organization. While I have preferences for voting as an impact to the policy aspect and overall public interest in ARIN, I am not a DMR. My voting views are not relevant to the issue at hand. If there is one. Did I receive actual unsolicited commercial email "UCE"? I don't have a direct relationship with the sender. They weren't asking me for money or selling me anything other than themselves. On one hand, someone running for election seems to have a right per VA corporate law to access information identifying voters. On the other, I am not the DMR for any company at the moment. I don't speak for one either. My interest is solely as an internet citizen. Seems like a grey area with ARIN being between the rock and the hard place more than anything. \While in the era of Green Card Lawyers this would have been horrific, today it is not. It is 2018.I don't like spam in the traditional sense, but I am over it in the general sense. Spam filters, both automated and personally configured do well enough. Spam is never going away as long as there is anyone alive willing to send money to $scammer. I'll leave it to the pros and each individual as to what they think it is. For me, this isn't a really a debate about spam.H owever, I do think their is an issue for ARIN to consider for next time. Is email considered PII? What affect, if any, does that have on the required disclosure? https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/Legacy/SP/nistspecialpublication800-122.pdf https://www.dol.gov/general/ppii I doubt that my information was shared by ARIN, but it is possible. If it were, I'd be surprised as only DMRs have votes and while others may be listed in the ARIN database, they may not be entirely relevant to the statute. So was it spam? I don't know, but I'm not putting any more cycles into thinking about it. Food for though. For next time. $0.02 Best Regards, -M< On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 8:37 PM Arik Next > wrote: Right who do you want us to vote for ? All that emails and at the end the candidate remain unknown ? This is really disturbing. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2018, at 5:32 PM, Martin Hannigan > wrote: For me, it was Peter Harrison. Best, -M< On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 17:54 Bill Woodcock > wrote: On Oct 10, 2018 17:33, Clayton Zekelman > wrote: > I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else > receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board > position this week? > It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. Well, this seems like as good a place as any to bring it up. You may as well say which candidate it was from. -Bill _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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Any dissemination, distribution, copying, or use of the communication by or to anyone other then the designated and intended recipient named above is unauthorized and is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient named above, please delete and/or destroy this communication immediately. From: ARIN-discuss on behalf of Josh Luthman Date: Monday, October 15, 2018 at 8:51 AM To: Michael Zindel Cc: "arin-discuss at arin.net" Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM The first issue was being solicited for votes. The second real issue is the 50+ posts about the first non issue. This is what's annoying to me and many others in this list/thread. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Oct 15, 2018, 11:42 AM Michael Zindel wrote: I'm puzzled by how many people aren't interested in the goings-on of ARIN and refer to it as spam. On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 6:35 AM Mike Hammett > wrote: You're not. It's a figment of your imagination. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png][http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png][http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png][http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png] Midwest Internet Exchange [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png][http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png][http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png] The Brothers WISP [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png][http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png] ________________________________ From: "John Ajjarapu" > To: "Martin Hannigan" > Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 5:11:11 AM Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM Why am I getting these SPAM???? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 15, 2018, at 4:41 AM, Martin Hannigan > wrote: Note: Apologies if anyone doesn't want to discuss this on arin-discuss. I always assumed this list was intended for relevant discussions about ARIN with "PPML" being for policy discussions. As Rodney Joffe pointed out, there is a URL to a working unsubscribe function at the bottom of all ARIN lists AFAIK if this is problematic for anyone.The list is also tagged in the subject. It is quite easy to filter for later reading comfort. It is a nice way to approach any mailbox organization. While I have preferences for voting as an impact to the policy aspect and overall public interest in ARIN, I am not a DMR. My voting views are not relevant to the issue at hand. If there is one. Did I receive actual unsolicited commercial email "UCE"? I don't have a direct relationship with the sender. They weren't asking me for money or selling me anything other than themselves. On one hand, someone running for election seems to have a right per VA corporate law to access information identifying voters. On the other, I am not the DMR for any company at the moment. I don't speak for one either. My interest is solely as an internet citizen. Seems like a grey area with ARIN being between the rock and the hard place more than anything. \While in the era of Green Card Lawyers this would have been horrific, today it is not. It is 2018.I don't like spam in the traditional sense, but I am over it in the general sense. Spam filters, both automated and personally configured do well enough. Spam is never going away as long as there is anyone alive willing to send money to $scammer. I'll leave it to the pros and each individual as to what they think it is. For me, this isn't a really a debate about spam.H owever, I do think their is an issue for ARIN to consider for next time. Is email considered PII? What affect, if any, does that have on the required disclosure? https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/Legacy/SP/nistspecialpublication800-122.pdf https://www.dol.gov/general/ppii I doubt that my information was shared by ARIN, but it is possible. If it were, I'd be surprised as only DMRs have votes and while others may be listed in the ARIN database, they may not be entirely relevant to the statute. So was it spam? I don't know, but I'm not putting any more cycles into thinking about it. Food for though. For next time. $0.02 Best Regards, -M< On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 8:37 PM Arik Next > wrote: Right who do you want us to vote for ? All that emails and at the end the candidate remain unknown ? This is really disturbing. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2018, at 5:32 PM, Martin Hannigan > wrote: For me, it was Peter Harrison. Best, -M< On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 17:54 Bill Woodcock > wrote: On Oct 10, 2018 17:33, Clayton Zekelman > wrote: > I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else > receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board > position this week? > It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. Well, this seems like as good a place as any to bring it up. You may as well say which candidate it was from. -Bill _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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But you seem oblivious to what you subscribed to, you don?t read the adminstravia sent to you when you did subscribe that told you how to unsubscribe, you?ve ignored the multiple posts that have spelled it out for the slow learners like you and you?ve finally failed to look at the footer of every email where it gets spelled out. So, no. Go put your big boy pants on, and go unsubscribe yourself. Say, you?re not related to Jim Fleming, are you > On Oct 15, 2018, at 11:25 AM, Paul Fleming wrote: > > Unsubscribe me please > > -- > > Paul L. Fleming | Wecom, Inc. and Data-Max Wireless | COO & Vice President > Office: 928.753.3829 | Direct: 928.377.5073 | Fax: 928.753.5991 > trust your network | wecominc.com / datamaxwireless.com > > > Notice: This communication may contain information that is privileged confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law, including but not limited to the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 USC 2510-252. Any dissemination, distribution, copying, or use of the communication by or to anyone other then the designated and intended recipient named above is unauthorized and is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient named above, please delete and/or destroy this communication immediately. > > From: ARIN-discuss on behalf of Josh Luthman > Date: Monday, October 15, 2018 at 8:51 AM > To: Michael Zindel > Cc: "arin-discuss at arin.net" > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM > > The first issue was being solicited for votes. > > The second real issue is the 50+ posts about the first non issue. This is what's annoying to me and many others in this list/thread. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Mon, Oct 15, 2018, 11:42 AM Michael Zindel wrote: > I'm puzzled by how many people aren't interested in the goings-on of ARIN and refer to it as spam. > > On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 6:35 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > You're not. It's a figment of your imagination. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > The Brothers WISP > > From: "John Ajjarapu" > To: "Martin Hannigan" > Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 5:11:11 AM > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM > > Why am I getting these SPAM???? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 15, 2018, at 4:41 AM, Martin Hannigan wrote: > > > Note: Apologies if anyone doesn't want to discuss this on arin-discuss. I always assumed this list was intended for relevant discussions about ARIN with "PPML" being for policy discussions. As Rodney Joffe pointed out, there is a URL to a working unsubscribe function at the bottom of all ARIN lists AFAIK if this is problematic for anyone.The list is also tagged in the subject. It is quite easy to filter for later reading comfort. It is a nice way to approach any mailbox organization. > > While I have preferences for voting as an impact to the policy aspect and overall public interest in ARIN, I am not a DMR. My voting views are not relevant to the issue at hand. If there is one. Did I receive actual unsolicited commercial email "UCE"? I don't have a direct relationship with the sender. They weren't asking me for money or selling me anything other than themselves. On one hand, someone running for election seems to have a right per VA corporate law to access information identifying voters. On the other, I am not the DMR for any company at the moment. I don't speak for one either. My interest is solely as an internet citizen. Seems like a grey area with ARIN being between the rock and the hard place more than anything. > > \While in the era of Green Card Lawyers this would have been horrific, today it is not. It is 2018.I don't like spam in the traditional sense, but I am over it in the general sense. Spam filters, both automated and personally configured do well enough. Spam is never going away as long as there is anyone alive willing to send money to $scammer. I'll leave it to the pros and each individual as to what they think it is. For me, this isn't a really a debate about spam.H owever, I do think their is an issue for ARIN to consider for next time. Is email considered PII? What affect, if any, does that have on the required disclosure? > > https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/Legacy/SP/nistspecialpublication800-122.pdf > https://www.dol.gov/general/ppii > > I doubt that my information was shared by ARIN, but it is possible. If it were, I'd be surprised as only DMRs have votes and while others may be listed in the ARIN database, they may not be entirely relevant to the statute. So was it spam? I don't know, but I'm not putting any more cycles into thinking about it. > > Food for though. For next time. $0.02 > > Best Regards, > > -M< > > > On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 8:37 PM Arik Next wrote: > Right who do you want us to vote for ? All that emails and at the end the candidate remain unknown ? This is really disturbing. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 14, 2018, at 5:32 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote: > > > > For me, it was Peter Harrison. > > Best, > > -M< > > > > On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 17:54 Bill Woodcock wrote: > On Oct 10, 2018 17:33, Clayton Zekelman wrote: > > I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else > > receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board > > position this week? > > It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. > > Well, this seems like as good a place as any to bring it up. > > You may as well say which candidate it was from. > > -Bill > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.arin.net_mailman_listinfo_arin-2Ddiscuss&d=DwICAg&c=Ro8Q4dnX1SNK_vCgNOhSveITMHXvJUsDIFqhHVlop24&r=_XUfmYZDwwobyZKwc42FnWWoVpR9ht7UoXYluNI9XQE&m=lAzX0_tsVRlZG8CXb4UlMVi4p1K_bcK3G84CAULtack&s=tLmXpUhqH728VbWUtmxU92mr7mZYepJlz8JqseE6fa4&e= > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > The information contained in this email message and its attachments is intended only for the private and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above, unless the sender expressly agrees otherwise. 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Please go to the mail server and unsubscribe (or send email to info at arin.net), as replying directly to arin-discuss email message results in a message to several thousand people. Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO American Registry for Internet Numbers -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rjoffe at centergate.com Mon Oct 15 13:06:59 2018 From: rjoffe at centergate.com (Rodney Joffe) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 12:06:59 -0500 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: References: <2556D5F6-42E7-4DDF-A15D-2D5E2761B7DB@pch.net> <229E608F-0114-4AA5-950E-F03601BCA154@nextcommunications.com> <786288456.152.1539606724109.JavaMail.mhammett@ThunderFuck> Message-ID: > On Oct 15, 2018, at 11:50 AM, Paul Fleming wrote: > > Joffe, at least everyone knows you are a dick now. Old news sonny. But now everyone knows that you can?t obey basic instructions, you obviously have NO experience in the technical world because you don?t know how listservs work, you can?t set filters on your mail system, and you have a potty mouth. And you have *no* sense of history. Who was it who said ?it?s better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool, than open it and remove all doubt?? Sage advice. John C. and the ARIN and AUP folks, I?ll cut it off here so no need to suggest an end to this fork ;-) > > I am busy working and making money. I will put on my big boy pants and take care of it you jack ass. > > -- > > Paul L. Fleming | Wecom, Inc. and Data-Max Wireless | COO & Vice President > Office: 928.753.3829 | Direct: 928.377.5073 | Fax: 928.753.5991 > trust your network | wecominc.com / datamaxwireless.com > > > Notice: This communication may contain information that is privileged confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law, including but not limited to the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 USC 2510-252. Any dissemination, distribution, copying, or use of the communication by or to anyone other then the designated and intended recipient named above is unauthorized and is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient named above, please delete and/or destroy this communication immediately. > > From: Rodney Joffe > Date: Monday, October 15, 2018 at 9:48 AM > To: Paul Fleming > Cc: "arin-discuss at arin.net" > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM > > Hey. You subscribed yourself. But you seem oblivious to what you subscribed to, you don?t read the adminstravia sent to you when you did subscribe that told you how to unsubscribe, you?ve ignored the multiple posts that have spelled it out for the slow learners like you and you?ve finally failed to look at the footer of every email where it gets spelled out. > > So, no. Go put your big boy pants on, and go unsubscribe yourself. > > Say, you?re not related to Jim Fleming, are you > > On Oct 15, 2018, at 11:25 AM, Paul Fleming wrote: > > Unsubscribe me please > > -- > > Paul L. Fleming | Wecom, Inc. and Data-Max Wireless | COO & Vice President > Office: 928.753.3829 | Direct: 928.377.5073 | Fax: 928.753.5991 > trust your network | wecominc.com / datamaxwireless.com > > > Notice: This communication may contain information that is privileged confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law, including but not limited to the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 USC 2510-252. Any dissemination, distribution, copying, or use of the communication by or to anyone other then the designated and intended recipient named above is unauthorized and is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient named above, please delete and/or destroy this communication immediately. > > From: ARIN-discuss on behalf of Josh Luthman > Date: Monday, October 15, 2018 at 8:51 AM > To: Michael Zindel > Cc: "arin-discuss at arin.net" > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM > > The first issue was being solicited for votes. > > The second real issue is the 50+ posts about the first non issue. This is what's annoying to me and many others in this list/thread. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Mon, Oct 15, 2018, 11:42 AM Michael Zindel wrote: > I'm puzzled by how many people aren't interested in the goings-on of ARIN and refer to it as spam. > > On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 6:35 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > You're not. It's a figment of your imagination. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > The Brothers WISP > > From: "John Ajjarapu" > To: "Martin Hannigan" > Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 5:11:11 AM > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM > > Why am I getting these SPAM???? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 15, 2018, at 4:41 AM, Martin Hannigan wrote: > > > Note: Apologies if anyone doesn't want to discuss this on arin-discuss. I always assumed this list was intended for relevant discussions about ARIN with "PPML" being for policy discussions. As Rodney Joffe pointed out, there is a URL to a working unsubscribe function at the bottom of all ARIN lists AFAIK if this is problematic for anyone.The list is also tagged in the subject. It is quite easy to filter for later reading comfort. It is a nice way to approach any mailbox organization. > > While I have preferences for voting as an impact to the policy aspect and overall public interest in ARIN, I am not a DMR. My voting views are not relevant to the issue at hand. If there is one. Did I receive actual unsolicited commercial email "UCE"? I don't have a direct relationship with the sender. They weren't asking me for money or selling me anything other than themselves. On one hand, someone running for election seems to have a right per VA corporate law to access information identifying voters. On the other, I am not the DMR for any company at the moment. I don't speak for one either. My interest is solely as an internet citizen. Seems like a grey area with ARIN being between the rock and the hard place more than anything. > > \While in the era of Green Card Lawyers this would have been horrific, today it is not. It is 2018.I don't like spam in the traditional sense, but I am over it in the general sense. Spam filters, both automated and personally configured do well enough. Spam is never going away as long as there is anyone alive willing to send money to $scammer. I'll leave it to the pros and each individual as to what they think it is. For me, this isn't a really a debate about spam.H owever, I do think their is an issue for ARIN to consider for next time. Is email considered PII? What affect, if any, does that have on the required disclosure? > > https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/Legacy/SP/nistspecialpublication800-122.pdf > https://www.dol.gov/general/ppii > > I doubt that my information was shared by ARIN, but it is possible. If it were, I'd be surprised as only DMRs have votes and while others may be listed in the ARIN database, they may not be entirely relevant to the statute. So was it spam? I don't know, but I'm not putting any more cycles into thinking about it. > > Food for though. For next time. $0.02 > > Best Regards, > > -M< > > > On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 8:37 PM Arik Next wrote: > Right who do you want us to vote for ? All that emails and at the end the candidate remain unknown ? This is really disturbing. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 14, 2018, at 5:32 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote: > > > > For me, it was Peter Harrison. > > Best, > > -M< > > > > On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 17:54 Bill Woodcock wrote: > On Oct 10, 2018 17:33, Clayton Zekelman wrote: > > I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else > > receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board > > position this week? > > It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record. > > Well, this seems like as good a place as any to bring it up. > > You may as well say which candidate it was from. > > -Bill > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.arin.net_mailman_listinfo_arin-2Ddiscuss&d=DwICAg&c=Ro8Q4dnX1SNK_vCgNOhSveITMHXvJUsDIFqhHVlop24&r=_XUfmYZDwwobyZKwc42FnWWoVpR9ht7UoXYluNI9XQE&m=lAzX0_tsVRlZG8CXb4UlMVi4p1K_bcK3G84CAULtack&s=tLmXpUhqH728VbWUtmxU92mr7mZYepJlz8JqseE6fa4&e= > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > The information contained in this email message and its attachments is intended only for the private and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above, unless the sender expressly agrees otherwise. 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Quiklogo Tom Turner Quik Net, LLC 415 W Wall Suite 1130 Midland Texas 79701 432-638-1300 Cell 432-570-1800 Office support at quiknt.com www.quiknt.com From: ARIN-discuss [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of John Curran Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 11:49 AM To: Paul Fleming Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM On 15 Oct 2018, at 6:25 PM, Paul Fleming wrote: Unsubscribe me please Paul (and anyone else who wishes to unsubscribe) - At the bottom of each message is information on managing your subscription ? ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. 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URL: From michael at mddhosting.com Mon Oct 15 13:17:39 2018 From: michael at mddhosting.com (Michael Denney) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 13:17:39 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: References: <2556D5F6-42E7-4DDF-A15D-2D5E2761B7DB@pch.net> <229E608F-0114-4AA5-950E-F03601BCA154@nextcommunications.com> <786288456.152.1539606724109.JavaMail.mhammett@ThunderFuck> <440B3A76-B4A3-41BE-83B1-A7F254D1ABE0@arin.net> <003a01d464a9$e108fbe0$a31af3a0$@com> Message-ID: I've been replying to everybody directly that has sent a message to the list with 'unsubscribe'. There are a staggering amount of people that simply don't read what they're sent. IMHO it's common sense that any properly maintained mailing list will have an unsubscribe option - usually in the footer of the message. I've tried to avoid replying to the list as a whole to keep from bugging those that understand how all of this works and do want to stay on the list. For anybody that is wanting to unsubscribe... 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You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. 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Thank you, Michael Denney MDDHosting LLC http://www.mddhosting.com/ > On Oct 15, 2018, at 1:13 PM, Jose Paz wrote: > > Unsubscribe > > > Jose Ramon Paz > 95 Merrick Way 3rd Floor > Coral Gables FL 33134 > (786) 369-5304 > www.quik.is > > On October 15, 2018 at 1:12:53 PM, Quik Net Support (support at quiknt.com ) wrote: > >> Unsubscribe > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nvt at nvtinc.net Mon Oct 15 13:26:29 2018 From: nvt at nvtinc.net (nvt at nvtinc.net) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 13:26:29 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: References: <2556D5F6-42E7-4DDF-A15D-2D5E2761B7DB@pch.net> <229E608F-0114-4AA5-950E-F03601BCA154@nextcommunications.com> <786288456.152.1539606724109.JavaMail.mhammett@ThunderFuck> <440B3A76-B4A3-41BE-83B1-A7F254D1ABE0@arin.net> <003a01d464a9$e108fbe0$a31af3a0$@com> Message-ID: <0BF325AD-79B1-4F2B-803F-5DE37C878FB2@nvtinc.net> We have logged into the account and selected unsubscribe through our mail options and are still receiving these even after 24 hours. So we also sent it out to all the ARIN related emails to remove us since the interface does not work. Thanks. NuVision Technologies Inc O: (248) 355-4075 F: (866) 849-6592 www.nvtinc.net > On Oct 15, 2018, at 1:17 PM, Michael Denney wrote: > > I've been replying to everybody directly that has sent a message to the list with 'unsubscribe'. There are a staggering amount of people that simply don't read what they're sent. IMHO it's common sense that any properly maintained mailing list will have an unsubscribe option - usually in the footer of the message. I've tried to avoid replying to the list as a whole to keep from bugging those that understand how all of this works and do want to stay on the list. > > For anybody that is wanting to unsubscribe... Please read below this line. > > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > Thank you, > > Michael Denney > MDDHosting LLC > http://www.mddhosting.com/ > >> On Oct 15, 2018, at 1:13 PM, Jose Paz > wrote: >> >> Unsubscribe >> ? ? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ? >> >> Jose Ramon Paz >> 95 Merrick Way 3rd Floor >> Coral Gables FL 33134 >> (786) 369-5304 >> www.quik.is >> ? ? >> On October 15, 2018 at 1:12:53 PM, Quik Net Support (support at quiknt.com ) wrote: >> >>> Unsubscribe >> _______________________________________________ >> ARIN-Discuss >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmellis at ssdplus.com Mon Oct 15 13:31:48 2018 From: jmellis at ssdplus.com (Jamey Mellis) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 17:31:48 +0000 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: <0BF325AD-79B1-4F2B-803F-5DE37C878FB2@nvtinc.net> References: <2556D5F6-42E7-4DDF-A15D-2D5E2761B7DB@pch.net> <229E608F-0114-4AA5-950E-F03601BCA154@nextcommunications.com> <786288456.152.1539606724109.JavaMail.mhammett@ThunderFuck> <440B3A76-B4A3-41BE-83B1-A7F254D1ABE0@arin.net> <003a01d464a9$e108fbe0$a31af3a0$@com> , <0BF325AD-79B1-4F2B-803F-5DE37C878FB2@nvtinc.net> Message-ID: <17F17A1F7AA95D46B2A5D35941873629023645F216@SSD-Exchange.ssdis.com> I also unsubscribed and it didn't work. As soon as I get to the office I am just going to block the address for now. Maybe once the election is over this will die down and I can unblock the address. James Mellis CISSP, CISM, CEH, CSIH, PCI-ISA, PCIP Software Solutions and Designs, Inc 843-556-4720 -------- Original message -------- From: nvt at nvtinc.net Date: 10/15/18 1:29 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Michael Denney Cc: Jose Paz , arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM We have logged into the account and selected unsubscribe through our mail options and are still receiving these even after 24 hours. So we also sent it out to all the ARIN related emails to remove us since the interface does not work. Thanks. NuVision Technologies Inc O: (248) 355-4075 F: (866) 849-6592 www.nvtinc.net On Oct 15, 2018, at 1:17 PM, Michael Denney > wrote: I've been replying to everybody directly that has sent a message to the list with 'unsubscribe'. There are a staggering amount of people that simply don't read what they're sent. IMHO it's common sense that any properly maintained mailing list will have an unsubscribe option - usually in the footer of the message. I've tried to avoid replying to the list as a whole to keep from bugging those that understand how all of this works and do want to stay on the list. For anybody that is wanting to unsubscribe... Please read below this line. You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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Thank you, Michael Denney MDDHosting LLC http://www.mddhosting.com/ On Oct 15, 2018, at 1:13 PM, Jose Paz > wrote: Unsubscribe [Quik, LLC.] Jose Ramon Paz 95 Merrick Way 3rd Floor Coral Gables FL 33134 (786) 369-5304 www.quik.is [Facebook] [Twitter] [Google Plus] On October 15, 2018 at 1:12:53 PM, Quik Net Support (support at quiknt.com) wrote: Unsubscribe _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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They don't hit my inbox directly and don't disrupt my workflow / inbox. I check the folder when I need to / want to. That said the amount of replies coming to this list that are basically a waste of time to read lately is rather surprising. I'm not unsubscribing because these messages aren't causing a disruption for me - but I am trying to help if I can. If you have unsubscribed, as you say, and you're still getting the emails I would suggest following the last line from the unsubscription footer: Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. 1. If you are on this list and are annoyed with all of the silly responses - filter the messages to a folder and look at them in your spare time. 2. If you're on the list and you no longer want to be on the list - unsubscribe via the directions in the footer of the messages. 3. If you've unsubscribed and it's not working - reach out to info at arin.net and report the issue and filter/block the messages from `arin-discuss at arin.net`. I would assume everybody on this list is in IT/Tech and none of this is really very complicated at all. There are simple and easy solutions to these issues and I would hope that nobody on this list really needs this level of hand-holding when it comes to a mailing list. Thank you, Michael Denney MDDHosting LLC http://www.mddhosting.com/ > On Oct 15, 2018, at 1:31 PM, Jamey Mellis wrote: > > I also unsubscribed and it didn't work. As soon as I get to the office I am just going to block the address for now. Maybe once the election is over this will die down and I can unblock the address. > > > > James Mellis CISSP, CISM, CEH, CSIH, PCI-ISA, PCIP > > Software Solutions and Designs, Inc > 843-556-4720 > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: nvt at nvtinc.net > Date: 10/15/18 1:29 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: Michael Denney > Cc: Jose Paz , arin-discuss at arin.net > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM > > We have logged into the account and selected unsubscribe through our mail options and are still receiving these even after 24 hours. So we also sent it out to all the ARIN related emails to remove us since the interface does not work. Thanks. > > NuVision Technologies Inc > O: (248) 355-4075 > F: (866) 849-6592 > www.nvtinc.net > > > > > >> On Oct 15, 2018, at 1:17 PM, Michael Denney > wrote: >> >> I've been replying to everybody directly that has sent a message to the list with 'unsubscribe'. There are a staggering amount of people that simply don't read what they're sent. IMHO it's common sense that any properly maintained mailing list will have an unsubscribe option - usually in the footer of the message. I've tried to avoid replying to the list as a whole to keep from bugging those that understand how all of this works and do want to stay on the list. >> >> For anybody that is wanting to unsubscribe... Please read below this line. >> >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >> >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >> >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >> >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >> >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >> >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >> >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >> >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >> >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >> >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Michael Denney >> MDDHosting LLC >> http://www.mddhosting.com/ >> >>> On Oct 15, 2018, at 1:13 PM, Jose Paz > wrote: >>> >>> Unsubscribe >>> ? ? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ? >>> >>> Jose Ramon Paz >>> 95 Merrick Way 3rd Floor >>> Coral Gables FL 33134 >>> (786) 369-5304 >>> www.quik.is >>> ? ? >>> On October 15, 2018 at 1:12:53 PM, Quik Net Support (support at quiknt.com ) wrote: >>> >>>> Unsubscribe >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ARIN-Discuss >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ARIN-Discuss >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From josh at imaginenetworksllc.com Mon Oct 15 13:44:01 2018 From: josh at imaginenetworksllc.com (Josh Luthman) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 13:44:01 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: References: <2556D5F6-42E7-4DDF-A15D-2D5E2761B7DB@pch.net> <229E608F-0114-4AA5-950E-F03601BCA154@nextcommunications.com> <786288456.152.1539606724109.JavaMail.mhammett@ThunderFuck> <440B3A76-B4A3-41BE-83B1-A7F254D1ABE0@arin.net> <003a01d464a9$e108fbe0$a31af3a0$@com> <0BF325AD-79B1-4F2B-803F-5DE37C878FB2@nvtinc.net> <17F17A1F7AA95D46B2A5D35941873629023645F216@SSD-Exchange.ssdis.com> Message-ID: Oh my God people let this thread die!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Oct 15, 2018, 1:43 PM Michael Denney wrote: > Personally I have every mailing list I am a part of filtered to its own > folder. They don't hit my inbox directly and don't disrupt my workflow / > inbox. I check the folder when I need to / want to. That said the amount > of replies coming to this list that are basically a waste of time to read > lately is rather surprising. I'm not unsubscribing because these messages > aren't causing a disruption for me - but I am trying to help if I can. > > If you have unsubscribed, as you say, and you're still getting the emails > I would suggest following the last line from the unsubscription footer: > *Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any > issues.* > > 1. If you are on this list and are annoyed with all of the silly responses > - filter the messages to a folder and look at them in your spare time. > 2. If you're on the list and you no longer want to be on the list - > unsubscribe via the directions in the footer of the messages. > 3. If you've unsubscribed and it's not working - reach out to > info at arin.net and report the issue and filter/block the messages from ` > arin-discuss at arin.net`. > > I would *assume* everybody on this list is in IT/Tech and none of this is > really very complicated at all. There are simple and easy solutions to > these issues and I would hope that nobody on this list *really* needs > this level of hand-holding when it comes to a mailing list. > > Thank you, > > Michael Denney > MDDHosting LLC > http://www.mddhosting.com/ > > On Oct 15, 2018, at 1:31 PM, Jamey Mellis wrote: > > I also unsubscribed and it didn't work. As soon as I get to the office I > am just going to block the address for now. Maybe once the election is over > this will die down and I can unblock the address. > > > > James Mellis CISSP, CISM, CEH, CSIH, PCI-ISA, PCIP > > Software Solutions and Designs, Inc > 843-556-4720 > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: nvt at nvtinc.net > Date: 10/15/18 1:29 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: Michael Denney > Cc: Jose Paz , arin-discuss at arin.net > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM > > We have logged into the account and selected unsubscribe through our mail > options and are still receiving these even after 24 hours. So we also sent > it out to all the ARIN related emails to remove us since the interface does > not work. Thanks. > > NuVision Technologies Inc > O: (248) 355-4075 > F: (866) 849-6592 > www.nvtinc.net > > > > > > On Oct 15, 2018, at 1:17 PM, Michael Denney > wrote: > > I've been replying to everybody directly that has sent a message to the > list with 'unsubscribe'. There are a staggering amount of people that > simply don't read what they're sent. IMHO it's common sense that any > properly maintained mailing list will have an unsubscribe option - usually > in the footer of the message. I've tried to avoid replying to the list as > a whole to keep from bugging those that understand how all of this works > and do want to stay on the list. > > For anybody that is wanting to unsubscribe... Please read below this line. > > > > > > *You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN > Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please > contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues.* > > > > > > *You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN > Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please > contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues.* > > > > > > *You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN > Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please > contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues.* > > > > > > *You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN > Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please > contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues.* > > > > > > *You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN > Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please > contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues.* > > > > > > *You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN > Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please > contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues.* > > > > > > *You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN > Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please > contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues.* > > > > > > *You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN > Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please > contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues.* > > > > > > *You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN > Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please > contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues.* > > > > > > *You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN > Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please > contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues.* > > Thank you, > > Michael Denney > MDDHosting LLC > http://www.mddhosting.com/ > > On Oct 15, 2018, at 1:13 PM, Jose Paz wrote: > > Unsubscribe > > [image: Quik, LLC.] > > > Jose Ramon Paz > 95 Merrick Way 3rd Floor > Coral Gables FL 33134 > > > (786) 369-5304 <+17863695304> > www.quik.is > > [image: Facebook] [image: Twitter] > [image: Google Plus] > > > On October 15, 2018 at 1:12:53 PM, Quik Net Support (support at quiknt.com) > wrote: > > Unsubscribe > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Chris at experiornetworks.com Mon Oct 15 13:47:59 2018 From: Chris at experiornetworks.com (Chris Henshaw) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 17:47:59 +0000 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: References: <2556D5F6-42E7-4DDF-A15D-2D5E2761B7DB@pch.net> <229E608F-0114-4AA5-950E-F03601BCA154@nextcommunications.com> <786288456.152.1539606724109.JavaMail.mhammett@ThunderFuck> <440B3A76-B4A3-41BE-83B1-A7F254D1ABE0@arin.net> <003a01d464a9$e108fbe0$a31af3a0$@com> <0BF325AD-79B1-4F2B-803F-5DE37C878FB2@nvtinc.net> <17F17A1F7AA95D46B2A5D35941873629023645F216@SSD-Exchange.ssdis.com> , Message-ID: My first response ever to any ARIN email. I hate to even respond but Josh is correct. Let this thread die. We shouldn't need to unsubscribe to anything. People should not be emailing nonsense back and forth. Chris Henshaw O: 928.302.2000 | M: 928.302-9687| F: 925.406.0500 www.experiornetworks.com | chris at experiornetworks.com [http://www.experiornetworks.com/_media/images/experior-logo.png] CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. ________________________________ From: ARIN-discuss on behalf of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 10:44:01 AM To: Michael Denney Cc: Jose Paz; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM Oh my God people let this thread die!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Oct 15, 2018, 1:43 PM Michael Denney > wrote: Personally I have every mailing list I am a part of filtered to its own folder. They don't hit my inbox directly and don't disrupt my workflow / inbox. I check the folder when I need to / want to. That said the amount of replies coming to this list that are basically a waste of time to read lately is rather surprising. I'm not unsubscribing because these messages aren't causing a disruption for me - but I am trying to help if I can. If you have unsubscribed, as you say, and you're still getting the emails I would suggest following the last line from the unsubscription footer: Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. 1. If you are on this list and are annoyed with all of the silly responses - filter the messages to a folder and look at them in your spare time. 2. If you're on the list and you no longer want to be on the list - unsubscribe via the directions in the footer of the messages. 3. If you've unsubscribed and it's not working - reach out to info at arin.net and report the issue and filter/block the messages from `arin-discuss at arin.net`. I would assume everybody on this list is in IT/Tech and none of this is really very complicated at all. There are simple and easy solutions to these issues and I would hope that nobody on this list really needs this level of hand-holding when it comes to a mailing list. Thank you, Michael Denney MDDHosting LLC http://www.mddhosting.com/ On Oct 15, 2018, at 1:31 PM, Jamey Mellis > wrote: I also unsubscribed and it didn't work. As soon as I get to the office I am just going to block the address for now. Maybe once the election is over this will die down and I can unblock the address. James Mellis CISSP, CISM, CEH, CSIH, PCI-ISA, PCIP Software Solutions and Designs, Inc 843-556-4720 -------- Original message -------- From: nvt at nvtinc.net Date: 10/15/18 1:29 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Michael Denney > Cc: Jose Paz >, arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM We have logged into the account and selected unsubscribe through our mail options and are still receiving these even after 24 hours. So we also sent it out to all the ARIN related emails to remove us since the interface does not work. Thanks. NuVision Technologies Inc O: (248) 355-4075 F: (866) 849-6592 www.nvtinc.net On Oct 15, 2018, at 1:17 PM, Michael Denney > wrote: I've been replying to everybody directly that has sent a message to the list with 'unsubscribe'. There are a staggering amount of people that simply don't read what they're sent. IMHO it's common sense that any properly maintained mailing list will have an unsubscribe option - usually in the footer of the message. I've tried to avoid replying to the list as a whole to keep from bugging those that understand how all of this works and do want to stay on the list. For anybody that is wanting to unsubscribe... Please read below this line. You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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Thank you, Michael Denney MDDHosting LLC http://www.mddhosting.com/ On Oct 15, 2018, at 1:13 PM, Jose Paz > wrote: Unsubscribe [Quik, LLC.] Jose Ramon Paz 95 Merrick Way 3rd Floor Coral Gables FL 33134 (786) 369-5304 www.quik.is [Facebook] [Twitter] [Google Plus] On October 15, 2018 at 1:12:53 PM, Quik Net Support (support at quiknt.com) wrote: Unsubscribe _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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URL: From kc at dyertech.ca Mon Oct 15 13:49:07 2018 From: kc at dyertech.ca (Digital Imagination) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 10:49:07 -0700 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: <17F17A1F7AA95D46B2A5D35941873629023645F216@SSD-Exchange.ssdis.com> References: <2556D5F6-42E7-4DDF-A15D-2D5E2761B7DB@pch.net> <229E608F-0114-4AA5-950E-F03601BCA154@nextcommunications.com> <786288456.152.1539606724109.JavaMail.mhammett@ThunderFuck> <440B3A76-B4A3-41BE-83B1-A7F254D1ABE0@arin.net> <003a01d464a9$e108fbe0$a31af3a0$@com> , <0BF325AD-79B1-4F2B-803F-5DE37C878FB2@nvtinc.net> <17F17A1F7AA95D46B2A5D35941873629023645F216@SSD-Exchange.ssdi s.com> Message-ID: <01b401d464af$5fcb2430$1f616c90$@dyertech.ca> Hey James - You forgot PPAP on your list of certifications attached to your email signature. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct6BUPvE2sM ;) For the record, I'm finding these emails entertaining. Just saying. KC Dyer | Developer/Consultant ph: (250) 402-8647 | skype: kc.dyer kc at digitalimagination.ca | www.digitalimagination.ca Digital Imagination - Solutions Specialist | Box 85, Erickson BC Canada - V0B 1K0 From: ARIN-discuss [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Jamey Mellis Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 10:32 AM To: nvt at nvtinc.net; Michael Denney Cc: Jose Paz ; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM I also unsubscribed and it didn't work. As soon as I get to the office I am just going to block the address for now. Maybe once the election is over this will die down and I can unblock the address. James Mellis CISSP, CISM, CEH, CSIH, PCI-ISA, PCIP Software Solutions and Designs, Inc 843-556-4720 -------- Original message -------- From: nvt at nvtinc.net Date: 10/15/18 1:29 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Michael Denney > Cc: Jose Paz >, arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM We have logged into the account and selected unsubscribe through our mail options and are still receiving these even after 24 hours. So we also sent it out to all the ARIN related emails to remove us since the interface does not work. Thanks. NuVision Technologies Inc O: (248) 355-4075 F: (866) 849-6592 www.nvtinc.net On Oct 15, 2018, at 1:17 PM, Michael Denney > wrote: I've been replying to everybody directly that has sent a message to the list with 'unsubscribe'. There are a staggering amount of people that simply don't read what they're sent. IMHO it's common sense that any properly maintained mailing list will have an unsubscribe option - usually in the footer of the message. I've tried to avoid replying to the list as a whole to keep from bugging those that understand how all of this works and do want to stay on the list. For anybody that is wanting to unsubscribe... Please read below this line. You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List ( ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List ( ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List ( ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List ( ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List ( ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List ( ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List ( ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. Thank you, Michael Denney MDDHosting LLC http://www.mddhosting.com/ On Oct 15, 2018, at 1:13 PM, Jose Paz > wrote: Unsubscribe Jose Ramon Paz 95 Merrick Way 3rd Floor Coral Gables FL 33134 (786) 369-5304 www.quik.is On October 15, 2018 at 1:12:53 PM, Quik Net Support (support at quiknt.com ) wrote: Unsubscribe _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). 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From: ARIN-discuss [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 1:44 PM To: Michael Denney Cc: Jose Paz ; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM Oh my God people let this thread die!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Oct 15, 2018, 1:43 PM Michael Denney > wrote: Personally I have every mailing list I am a part of filtered to its own folder. They don't hit my inbox directly and don't disrupt my workflow / inbox. I check the folder when I need to / want to. That said the amount of replies coming to this list that are basically a waste of time to read lately is rather surprising. I'm not unsubscribing because these messages aren't causing a disruption for me - but I am trying to help if I can. If you have unsubscribed, as you say, and you're still getting the emails I would suggest following the last line from the unsubscription footer: Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. 1. If you are on this list and are annoyed with all of the silly responses - filter the messages to a folder and look at them in your spare time. 2. If you're on the list and you no longer want to be on the list - unsubscribe via the directions in the footer of the messages. 3. If you've unsubscribed and it's not working - reach out to info at arin.net and report the issue and filter/block the messages from `arin-discuss at arin.net`. I would assume everybody on this list is in IT/Tech and none of this is really very complicated at all. There are simple and easy solutions to these issues and I would hope that nobody on this list really needs this level of hand-holding when it comes to a mailing list. Thank you, Michael Denney MDDHosting LLC http://www.mddhosting.com/ On Oct 15, 2018, at 1:31 PM, Jamey Mellis > wrote: I also unsubscribed and it didn't work. As soon as I get to the office I am just going to block the address for now. Maybe once the election is over this will die down and I can unblock the address. James Mellis CISSP, CISM, CEH, CSIH, PCI-ISA, PCIP Software Solutions and Designs, Inc 843-556-4720 -------- Original message -------- From: nvt at nvtinc.net Date: 10/15/18 1:29 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Michael Denney > Cc: Jose Paz >, arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM We have logged into the account and selected unsubscribe through our mail options and are still receiving these even after 24 hours. So we also sent it out to all the ARIN related emails to remove us since the interface does not work. Thanks. NuVision Technologies Inc O: (248) 355-4075 F: (866) 849-6592 www.nvtinc.net On Oct 15, 2018, at 1:17 PM, Michael Denney > wrote: I've been replying to everybody directly that has sent a message to the list with 'unsubscribe'. There are a staggering amount of people that simply don't read what they're sent. IMHO it's common sense that any properly maintained mailing list will have an unsubscribe option - usually in the footer of the message. I've tried to avoid replying to the list as a whole to keep from bugging those that understand how all of this works and do want to stay on the list. For anybody that is wanting to unsubscribe... Please read below this line. You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. 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URL: From michael at mddhosting.com Mon Oct 15 13:49:45 2018 From: michael at mddhosting.com (Michael Denney) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 13:49:45 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: References: <2556D5F6-42E7-4DDF-A15D-2D5E2761B7DB@pch.net> <229E608F-0114-4AA5-950E-F03601BCA154@nextcommunications.com> <786288456.152.1539606724109.JavaMail.mhammett@ThunderFuck> <440B3A76-B4A3-41BE-83B1-A7F254D1ABE0@arin.net> <003a01d464a9$e108fbe0$a31af3a0$@com> <0BF325AD-79B1-4F2B-803F-5DE37C878FB2@nvtinc.net> <17F17A1F7AA95D46B2A5D35941873629023645F216@SSD-Exchange.ssdis.com> Message-ID: <1CE661AF-4C86-4592-8C25-A8E63C316ECD@mddhosting.com> Replying to a thread with, "Please let this die," just furthers the thread. Just like this reply I am making right now - will continue the issue. Sigh. If it's bothering you - use a mail filter and put the ARIN mailing list in its own folder [and don't reply to the list letting everybody know you've done this, or how annoyed you are, or to let the thread die, etc...]. I'm done responding to the list as a whole for the day unless something pertinent actually comes up for discussion. I wish you all the best of luck and a great day. Thank you, Michael Denney MDDHosting LLC http://www.mddhosting.com/ > On Oct 15, 2018, at 1:47 PM, Chris Henshaw wrote: > > My first response ever to any ARIN email. I hate to even respond but Josh is correct. Let this thread die. We shouldn't need to unsubscribe to anything. People should not be emailing nonsense back and forth. > > Chris Henshaw > O: 928.302.2000 | M: 928.302-9687| F: 925.406.0500 > www.experiornetworks.com | chris at experiornetworks.com > > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: > This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. > From: ARIN-discuss > on behalf of Josh Luthman > > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 10:44:01 AM > To: Michael Denney > Cc: Jose Paz; arin-discuss at arin.net > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM > > Oh my God people let this thread die!!! > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Mon, Oct 15, 2018, 1:43 PM Michael Denney > wrote: > Personally I have every mailing list I am a part of filtered to its own folder. They don't hit my inbox directly and don't disrupt my workflow / inbox. I check the folder when I need to / want to. That said the amount of replies coming to this list that are basically a waste of time to read lately is rather surprising. I'm not unsubscribing because these messages aren't causing a disruption for me - but I am trying to help if I can. > > If you have unsubscribed, as you say, and you're still getting the emails I would suggest following the last line from the unsubscription footer: > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > 1. If you are on this list and are annoyed with all of the silly responses - filter the messages to a folder and look at them in your spare time. > 2. If you're on the list and you no longer want to be on the list - unsubscribe via the directions in the footer of the messages. > 3. If you've unsubscribed and it's not working - reach out to info at arin.net and report the issue and filter/block the messages from `arin-discuss at arin.net `. > > I would assume everybody on this list is in IT/Tech and none of this is really very complicated at all. There are simple and easy solutions to these issues and I would hope that nobody on this list really needs this level of hand-holding when it comes to a mailing list. > > Thank you, > > Michael Denney > MDDHosting LLC > http://www.mddhosting.com/ > >> On Oct 15, 2018, at 1:31 PM, Jamey Mellis > wrote: >> >> I also unsubscribed and it didn't work. As soon as I get to the office I am just going to block the address for now. Maybe once the election is over this will die down and I can unblock the address. >> >> >> >> James Mellis CISSP, CISM, CEH, CSIH, PCI-ISA, PCIP >> >> Software Solutions and Designs, Inc >> 843-556-4720 >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: nvt at nvtinc.net >> Date: 10/15/18 1:29 PM (GMT-05:00) >> To: Michael Denney > >> Cc: Jose Paz >, arin-discuss at arin.net >> Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM >> >> We have logged into the account and selected unsubscribe through our mail options and are still receiving these even after 24 hours. So we also sent it out to all the ARIN related emails to remove us since the interface does not work. Thanks. >> >> NuVision Technologies Inc >> O: (248) 355-4075 >> F: (866) 849-6592 >> www.nvtinc.net >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Oct 15, 2018, at 1:17 PM, Michael Denney > wrote: >>> >>> I've been replying to everybody directly that has sent a message to the list with 'unsubscribe'. There are a staggering amount of people that simply don't read what they're sent. IMHO it's common sense that any properly maintained mailing list will have an unsubscribe option - usually in the footer of the message. I've tried to avoid replying to the list as a whole to keep from bugging those that understand how all of this works and do want to stay on the list. >>> >>> For anybody that is wanting to unsubscribe... Please read below this line. >>> >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >>> >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >>> >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >>> >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >>> >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >>> >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >>> >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >>> >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >>> >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >>> >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> Michael Denney >>> MDDHosting LLC >>> http://www.mddhosting.com/ >>> >>>> On Oct 15, 2018, at 1:13 PM, Jose Paz > wrote: >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe >>>> ????????????????????????????? >>>> Jose Ramon Paz >>>> 95 Merrick Way 3rd Floor >>>> Coral Gables FL 33134 >>>> (786) 369-5304 >>>> www.quik.is >>>> ? ? >>>> On October 15, 2018 at 1:12:53 PM, Quik Net Support (support at quiknt.com ) wrote: >>>>> Unsubscribe >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> ARIN-Discuss >>>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). >>>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ARIN-Discuss >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >> > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From riocaribe22 at gmail.com Mon Oct 15 13:51:16 2018 From: riocaribe22 at gmail.com (Ricardo Otaola) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 13:51:16 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] UNSUBSCRIBE PLEEEEEASE Message-ID: From: ARIN-discuss on behalf of Chris Henshaw Date: Monday, October 15, 2018 at 1:47 PM To: Josh Luthman , Michael Denney Cc: Jose Paz , "arin-discuss at arin.net" Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM My first response ever to any ARIN email. I hate to even respond but Josh is correct. Let this thread die. We shouldn't need to unsubscribe to anything. People should not be emailing nonsense back and forth. Chris Henshaw O: 928.302.2000 | M: 928.302-9687| F: 925.406.0500 www.experiornetworks.com | chris at experiornetworks.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. From: ARIN-discuss on behalf of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 10:44:01 AM To: Michael Denney Cc: Jose Paz; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM Oh my God people let this thread die!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Oct 15, 2018, 1:43 PM Michael Denney wrote: > Personally I have every mailing list I am a part of filtered to its own > folder. They don't hit my inbox directly and don't disrupt my workflow / > inbox. I check the folder when I need to / want to. That said the amount of > replies coming to this list that are basically a waste of time to read lately > is rather surprising. I'm not unsubscribing because these messages aren't > causing a disruption for me - but I am trying to help if I can. > > If you have unsubscribed, as you say, and you're still getting the emails I > would suggest following the last line from the unsubscription footer: > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > 1. If you are on this list and are annoyed with all of the silly responses - > filter the messages to a folder and look at them in your spare time. > 2. If you're on the list and you no longer want to be on the list - > unsubscribe via the directions in the footer of the messages. > 3. If you've unsubscribed and it's not working - reach out to info at arin.net > and report the issue and filter/block the messages from > `arin-discuss at arin.net`. > > I would assume everybody on this list is in IT/Tech and none of this is really > very complicated at all. There are simple and easy solutions to these issues > and I would hope that nobody on this list really needs this level of > hand-holding when it comes to a mailing list. > > Thank you, > > Michael Denney > MDDHosting LLC > http://www.mddhosting.com/ > >> On Oct 15, 2018, at 1:31 PM, Jamey Mellis wrote: >> >> I also unsubscribed and it didn't work. As soon as I get to the office I am >> just going to block the address for now. Maybe once the election is over this >> will die down and I can unblock the address. >> >> >> >> James Mellis CISSP, CISM, CEH, CSIH, PCI-ISA, PCIP >> >> Software Solutions and Designs, Inc >> 843-556-4720 >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: nvt at nvtinc.net >> Date: 10/15/18 1:29 PM (GMT-05:00) >> To: Michael Denney >> Cc: Jose Paz , arin-discuss at arin.net >> Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM >> >> We have logged into the account and selected unsubscribe through our mail >> options and are still receiving these even after 24 hours. So we also sent it >> out to all the ARIN related emails to remove us since the interface does not >> work. Thanks. >> >> NuVision Technologies Inc >> O: (248) 355-4075 >> F: (866) 849-6592 >> www.nvtinc.net >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Oct 15, 2018, at 1:17 PM, Michael Denney wrote: >>> >>> I've been replying to everybody directly that has sent a message to the list >>> with 'unsubscribe'. There are a staggering amount of people that simply >>> don't read what they're sent. IMHO it's common sense that any properly >>> maintained mailing list will have an unsubscribe option - usually in the >>> footer of the message. I've tried to avoid replying to the list as a whole >>> to keep from bugging those that understand how all of this works and do want >>> to stay on the list. >>> >>> For anybody that is wanting to unsubscribe... Please read below this line. >>> >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >>> >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >>> >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >>> >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >>> >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >>> >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >>> >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >>> >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >>> >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >>> >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> Michael Denney >>> MDDHosting LLC >>> http://www.mddhosting.com/ >>> >>>> On Oct 15, 2018, at 1:13 PM, Jose Paz wrote: >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe >>>> Jose >>>> Ramon Paz >>>> 95 Merrick Way 3rd Floor >>>> Coral Gables FL 33134 >>>> >>>> (786) 369-5304 >>>> www.quik.is >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On October 15, 2018 at 1:12:53 PM, Quik Net Support (support at quiknt.com) >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Unsubscribe >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> ARIN-Discuss >>>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >>>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ARIN-Discuss >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >> > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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Over 90% of the spam on this chain is people complaining about spam.* It can't get any better.* *Filter by subject line if you really don't want to be part of this community mailing list.* On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 11:51 AM Chris Henshaw wrote: > My first response ever to any ARIN email. I hate to even respond but Josh > is correct. Let this thread die. We shouldn't need to unsubscribe to > anything. People should not be emailing nonsense back and forth. > > > *Chris Henshaw * > O: 928.302.2000 | M: 928.302-9687| F: 925.406.0500 > www.experiornetworks.com | chris at experiornetworks.com > > [image: http://www.experiornetworks.com/_media/images/experior-logo.png] > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: > This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by > legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any > disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment > is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us > immediately by returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your > system. Thank you for your cooperation. > ------------------------------ > *From:* ARIN-discuss on behalf of Josh > Luthman > *Sent:* Monday, October 15, 2018 10:44:01 AM > *To:* Michael Denney > *Cc:* Jose Paz; arin-discuss at arin.net > *Subject:* Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM > > Oh my God people let this thread die!!! > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Mon, Oct 15, 2018, 1:43 PM Michael Denney > wrote: > > Personally I have every mailing list I am a part of filtered to its own > folder. They don't hit my inbox directly and don't disrupt my workflow / > inbox. I check the folder when I need to / want to. That said the amount > of replies coming to this list that are basically a waste of time to read > lately is rather surprising. I'm not unsubscribing because these messages > aren't causing a disruption for me - but I am trying to help if I can. > > If you have unsubscribed, as you say, and you're still getting the emails > I would suggest following the last line from the unsubscription footer: > *Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any > issues.* > > 1. If you are on this list and are annoyed with all of the silly responses > - filter the messages to a folder and look at them in your spare time. > 2. If you're on the list and you no longer want to be on the list - > unsubscribe via the directions in the footer of the messages. > 3. If you've unsubscribed and it's not working - reach out to > info at arin.net and report the issue and filter/block the messages from ` > arin-discuss at arin.net`. > > I would *assume* everybody on this list is in IT/Tech and none of this is > really very complicated at all. There are simple and easy solutions to > these issues and I would hope that nobody on this list *really* needs > this level of hand-holding when it comes to a mailing list. > > Thank you, > > Michael Denney > MDDHosting LLC > http://www.mddhosting.com/ > > On Oct 15, 2018, at 1:31 PM, Jamey Mellis wrote: > > I also unsubscribed and it didn't work. As soon as I get to the office I > am just going to block the address for now. Maybe once the election is over > this will die down and I can unblock the address. > > > > James Mellis CISSP, CISM, CEH, CSIH, PCI-ISA, PCIP > > Software Solutions and Designs, Inc > 843-556-4720 > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: nvt at nvtinc.net > Date: 10/15/18 1:29 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: Michael Denney > Cc: Jose Paz , arin-discuss at arin.net > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM > > We have logged into the account and selected unsubscribe through our mail > options and are still receiving these even after 24 hours. So we also sent > it out to all the ARIN related emails to remove us since the interface does > not work. Thanks. > > NuVision Technologies Inc > O: (248) 355-4075 > F: (866) 849-6592 > www.nvtinc.net > > > > > > On Oct 15, 2018, at 1:17 PM, Michael Denney > wrote: > > I've been replying to everybody directly that has sent a message to the > list with 'unsubscribe'. There are a staggering amount of people that > simply don't read what they're sent. IMHO it's common sense that any > properly maintained mailing list will have an unsubscribe option - usually > in the footer of the message. I've tried to avoid replying to the list as > a whole to keep from bugging those that understand how all of this works > and do want to stay on the list. > > For anybody that is wanting to unsubscribe... Please read below this line. > > > > > > *You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN > Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please > contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues.* > > > > > > *You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN > Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please > contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues.* > > > > > > *You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN > Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please > contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues.* > > > > > > *You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN > Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please > contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues.* > > > > > > *You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN > Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please > contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues.* > > > > > > *You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN > Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please > contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues.* > > > > > > *You are receiving this message because you 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URL: From michael.zindel at libertybroadband.site Mon Oct 15 13:59:31 2018 From: michael.zindel at libertybroadband.site (Michael Zindel) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 11:59:31 -0600 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: <1CE661AF-4C86-4592-8C25-A8E63C316ECD@mddhosting.com> References: <2556D5F6-42E7-4DDF-A15D-2D5E2761B7DB@pch.net> <229E608F-0114-4AA5-950E-F03601BCA154@nextcommunications.com> <786288456.152.1539606724109.JavaMail.mhammett@ThunderFuck> <440B3A76-B4A3-41BE-83B1-A7F254D1ABE0@arin.net> <003a01d464a9$e108fbe0$a31af3a0$@com> <0BF325AD-79B1-4F2B-803F-5DE37C878FB2@nvtinc.net> <17F17A1F7AA95D46B2A5D35941873629023645F216@SSD-Exchange.ssdis.com> <1CE661AF-4C86-4592-8C25-A8E63C316ECD@mddhosting.com> Message-ID: Michael, It's probably going to take a couple months for the people spamming "unsubscribe" to the void to die down. On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 12:00 PM Michael Denney wrote: > Replying to a thread with, "Please let this die," just furthers the thread. > > Just like this reply I am making right now - will continue the issue. > > Sigh. > > If it's bothering you - use a mail filter and put the ARIN mailing list in > its own folder [and don't reply to the list letting everybody know you've > done this, or how annoyed you are, or to let the thread die, etc...]. > > I'm done responding to the list as a whole for the day unless something > pertinent actually comes up for discussion. > > I wish you all the best of luck and a great day. > > Thank you, > > Michael Denney > MDDHosting LLC > http://www.mddhosting.com/ > > On Oct 15, 2018, at 1:47 PM, Chris Henshaw > wrote: > > My first response ever to any ARIN email. I hate to even respond but Josh > is correct. Let this thread die. We shouldn't need to unsubscribe to > anything. People should not be emailing nonsense back and forth. > > *Chris Henshaw * > O: 928.302.2000 | M: 928.302-9687| F: 925.406.0500 > www.experiornetworks.com | chris at experiornetworks.com > > [image: http://www.experiornetworks.com/_media/images/experior-logo.png] > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: > This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by > legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any > disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment > is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us > immediately by returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your > system. Thank you for your cooperation. > ------------------------------ > *From:* ARIN-discuss on behalf of Josh > Luthman > *Sent:* Monday, October 15, 2018 10:44:01 AM > *To:* Michael Denney > *Cc:* Jose Paz; arin-discuss at arin.net > *Subject:* Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM > > Oh my God people let this thread die!!! > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Mon, Oct 15, 2018, 1:43 PM Michael Denney > wrote: > > Personally I have every mailing list I am a part of filtered to its own > folder. They don't hit my inbox directly and don't disrupt my workflow / > inbox. I check the folder when I need to / want to. That said the amount > of replies coming to this list that are basically a waste of time to read > lately is rather surprising. I'm not unsubscribing because these messages > aren't causing a disruption for me - but I am trying to help if I can. > > If you have unsubscribed, as you say, and you're still getting the emails > I would suggest following the last line from the unsubscription footer: > *Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any > issues.* > > 1. If you are on this list and are annoyed with all of the silly responses > - filter the messages to a folder and look at them in your spare time. > 2. If you're on the list and you no longer want to be on the list - > unsubscribe via the directions in the footer of the messages. > 3. If you've unsubscribed and it's not working - reach out to > info at arin.net and report the issue and filter/block the messages from ` > arin-discuss at arin.net`. > > I would *assume* everybody on this list is in IT/Tech and none of this is > really very complicated at all. There are simple and easy solutions to > these issues and I would hope that nobody on this list *really* needs > this level of hand-holding when it comes to a mailing list. > > Thank you, > > Michael Denney > MDDHosting LLC > http://www.mddhosting.com/ > > On Oct 15, 2018, at 1:31 PM, Jamey Mellis wrote: > > I also unsubscribed and it didn't work. As soon as I get to the office I > am just going to block the address for now. Maybe once the election is over > this will die down and I can unblock the address. > > > > James Mellis CISSP, CISM, CEH, CSIH, PCI-ISA, PCIP > > Software Solutions and Designs, Inc > 843-556-4720 > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: nvt at nvtinc.net > Date: 10/15/18 1:29 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: Michael Denney > Cc: Jose Paz , arin-discuss at arin.net > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM > > We have logged into the account and selected unsubscribe through our mail > options and are still receiving these even after 24 hours. So we also sent > it out to all the ARIN related emails to remove us since the interface does > not work. Thanks. > > NuVision Technologies Inc > O: (248) 355-4075 > F: (866) 849-6592 > www.nvtinc.net > > > > > > On Oct 15, 2018, at 1:17 PM, Michael Denney > wrote: > > I've been replying to everybody directly that has sent a message to the > list with 'unsubscribe'. There are a staggering amount of people that > simply don't read what they're sent. IMHO it's common sense that any > properly maintained mailing list will have an unsubscribe option - usually > in the footer of the message. I've tried to avoid replying to the list as > a whole to keep from bugging those that understand how all of this works > and do want to stay on the list. > > For anybody that is wanting to unsubscribe... Please read below this line. > > > > > > *You are receiving this message because you are subscribed tothe ARIN > Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net > ).Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list > subscription at:https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please > contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues.* > > > > > > *You are receiving this message because you are subscribed tothe ARIN > Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net > ).Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list > subscription at:https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please > contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues.* > > > > > > *You are receiving this message because you are subscribed tothe ARIN > Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net > ).Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list > subscription at:https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please > contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues.* > > > > > > *You are receiving this message because you are subscribed tothe ARIN > Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net > ).Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list > subscription at:https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please > contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues.* > > > > > > *You are receiving this message because you are subscribed tothe ARIN > Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net > ).Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list > subscription at:https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please > contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues.* > > > > > > *You are receiving this message because you are subscribed tothe ARIN > Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net > ).Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list > subscription at:https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please > contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues.* > > > > > > *You are receiving this message because you are subscribed tothe ARIN > Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net > ).Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list > subscription at:https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please > contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues.* > > > > > > *You are receiving this message because you are subscribed tothe ARIN > Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net > ).Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list > subscription at:https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please > contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues.* > > > > > > *You are receiving this message because you are subscribed tothe ARIN > Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net > ).Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list > subscription at:https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please > contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues.* > > > > > > *You are receiving this message because you are subscribed tothe ARIN > Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net > ).Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list > subscription at:https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please > contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues.* > > Thank you, > > Michael Denney > MDDHosting LLC > http://www.mddhosting.com/ > > On Oct 15, 2018, at 1:13 PM, Jose Paz wrote: > > Unsubscribe > [image: Quik, LLC.] > > Jose Ramon Paz > 95 Merrick Way 3rd Floor > Coral Gables FL 33134 > > > (786) 369-5304 <+17863695304> > www.quik.is > [image: Facebook] [image: Twitter] > [image: Google Plus] > > > On October 15, 2018 at 1:12:53 PM, Quik Net Support (support at quiknt.com) > wrote: > > Unsubscribe > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > -- Michael Zindel // CEO | Liberty Broadband O: 385.626.0096 | E: michael.zindel at libertybroadband.site -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tpearson at raptorengineering.com Mon Oct 15 14:10:24 2018 From: tpearson at raptorengineering.com (Timothy Pearson) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 13:10:24 -0500 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: References: <786288456.152.1539606724109.JavaMail.mhammett@ThunderFuck> <440B3A76-B4A3-41BE-83B1-A7F254D1ABE0@arin.net> <003a01d464a9$e108fbe0$a31af3a0$@com> <0BF325AD-79B1-4F2B-803F-5DE37C878FB2@nvtinc.net> <17F17A1F7AA95D46B2A5D35941873629023645F216@SSD-Exchange.ssdis.com> Message-ID: <5BC4D810.3080006@raptorengineering.com> On 10/15/2018 12:53 PM, Michael Zindel wrote: > Oh man, when I subscribed to ARIN discuss ( * like every single one of > you did * ) , I had no idea it would be so rewarding . Over 90% of the > spam on this chain is people complaining about spam./ It can't get any > better./ > / > / > Filter by subject line if you really don't want to be part of this > community mailing list. Just one small correction -- many of us didn't sign up. On our side at least, there seems to have been an auto-subscribe to a couple of lists including this one. However, the point of filtering is quite valid. It's a ten second rule to set up in Thunderbird etc., either unsubscribe or set up the rule. ;-) -- Timothy Pearson Raptor Engineering +1 (415) 727-8645 (direct line) +1 (512) 690-0200 (switchboard) https://www.raptorengineering.com From patrick.laughton at teleperformance.com Mon Oct 15 20:52:33 2018 From: patrick.laughton at teleperformance.com (Patrick Laughton) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 00:52:33 +0000 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: <5BC4D810.3080006@raptorengineering.com> References: <786288456.152.1539606724109.JavaMail.mhammett@ThunderFuck> <440B3A76-B4A3-41BE-83B1-A7F254D1ABE0@arin.net> <003a01d464a9$e108fbe0$a31af3a0$@com> <0BF325AD-79B1-4F2B-803F-5DE37C878FB2@nvtinc.net> <17F17A1F7AA95D46B2A5D35941873629023645F216@SSD-Exchange.ssdis.com> , <5BC4D810.3080006@raptorengineering.com> Message-ID: Timothy, Thanks, I was about to chime in with the same correction and a specific citation. >From the "Welcome New ARIN Member!" email I received: "As a member, you?re subscribed to ARIN-Discuss, a member-only forum offering our member community a platform to discuss ARIN-specific issues such as, but not limited to internal policies and fee structures. You?re also subscribed to ARIN-Announce, used by ARIN staff to provide timely information on key issues affecting our members and the Internet community. Please also subscribe to our Public Policy mailing list so you can become active in our policy development process and following ongoing discussions that may change the way your organization can obtain future resources from ARIN. To learn more and to subscribe to these and other ARIN mailing lists, please visit our Mailing Lists page and join the discussion today! Please note, you may unsubscribe or manage your ARIN Discuss and/or Announce mailing list subscriptions anytime by visiting http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss or http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-announce." So, no, not all of us explicitly signed up -- I didn't, and dangit, I'm running out of popcorn. Patrick (via mobile) ________________________________ From: ARIN-discuss on behalf of Timothy Pearson Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 12:12 To: Michael Zindel Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM On 10/15/2018 12:53 PM, Michael Zindel wrote: > Oh man, when I subscribed to ARIN discuss ( * like every single one of > you did * ) , I had no idea it would be so rewarding . Over 90% of the > spam on this chain is people complaining about spam./ It can't get any > better./ > / > / > Filter by subject line if you really don't want to be part of this > community mailing list. Just one small correction -- many of us didn't sign up. On our side at least, there seems to have been an auto-subscribe to a couple of lists including this one. However, the point of filtering is quite valid. It's a ten second rule to set up in Thunderbird etc., either unsubscribe or set up the rule. ;-) -- Timothy Pearson Raptor Engineering +1 (415) 727-8645 (direct line) +1 (512) 690-0200 (switchboard) https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.raptorengineering.com&d=DwICAg&c=aXfg9j-An5sFdflqnjAj_USiCjXm5xEBIX8lTgWEt0U&r=ndXpRHR_l6-fSSMwB8IWcqzvwMOOBGvmSxw6OAwOZ-s3pnnxFMOE86VpnVNFZlULn-B6yAq90x-ATA-24WRi7w&m=bPS6c3ygJ_-Ik5xQBR_ZpambDB_-WEapYm3QSAjMRHo&s=LrEeZp7ZXRI2-zTGRVvedDtIE3FFBtUK1d0_yqJboSQ&e= _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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URL: From jcurran at arin.net Mon Oct 15 21:26:18 2018 From: jcurran at arin.net (John Curran) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 01:26:18 +0000 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM In-Reply-To: References: <786288456.152.1539606724109.JavaMail.mhammett@ThunderFuck> <440B3A76-B4A3-41BE-83B1-A7F254D1ABE0@arin.net> <003a01d464a9$e108fbe0$a31af3a0$@com> <0BF325AD-79B1-4F2B-803F-5DE37C878FB2@nvtinc.net> <17F17A1F7AA95D46B2A5D35941873629023645F216@SSD-Exchange.ssdis.com> <5BC4D810.3080006@raptorengineering.com> Message-ID: <8625A1C8-5DA3-467E-B4A8-4AFEFD1B439E@arin.net> On 16 Oct 2018, at 2:52 AM, Patrick Laughton > wrote: "As a member, you?re subscribed to ARIN-Discuss, a member-only forum offering our member community a platform to discuss ARIN-specific issues such as, but not limited to internal policies and fee structures. ... So, no, not all of us explicitly signed up -- I didn't, and dangit, I'm running out of popcorn. Patrick - Indeed, it might be better said that ?You were explicitly signed up when you became an ARIN member?, as IP number resources are managed in each of the five regions by membership organizations. We do encourage members to participate in discussions of ARIN?s services and policies (since the alternative to community-based governance would be some kind of top-down regulatory structure for administration of all of this?) We?ll work on interception of ?unsubscribe? emails to the list, and that should help some with keeping the discussions on topic. It is hoped that per-post moderation of the list is not necessary, but we?ll reevaluate next year once we?ve got ?unsubscribe? messages diverted from posting. Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO American Registry for Internet Numbers -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andrew.dul at quark.net Tue Oct 16 12:06:07 2018 From: andrew.dul at quark.net (Andrew Dul) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 09:06:07 -0700 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss In-Reply-To: References: <440B3A76-B4A3-41BE-83B1-A7F254D1ABE0@arin.net> <003a01d464a9$e108fbe0$a31af3a0$@com> <0BF325AD-79B1-4F2B-803F-5DE37C878FB2@nvtinc.net> <17F17A1F7AA95D46B2A5D35941873629023645F216@SSD-Exchange.ssdis.com> <5BC4D810.3080006@raptorengineering.com> Message-ID: <0d5fce3f-55cd-124a-2ff2-dc7215df66f5@quark.net> Perhaps ARIN-discuss should be opt-in rather than opt-out by default.? I have no problem with arin-announce being opt-out by default, since that is a moderated and generally low-volume list.? Andrew On 10/15/2018 5:52 PM, Patrick Laughton wrote: > Timothy, > > Thanks, I was about to chime in with the same correction and a > specific citation. > > From the "Welcome New ARIN Member!" email I received: > > "As a member, you?re subscribed to ARIN-Discuss, a member-only forum > offering our member community a platform to discuss ARIN-specific > issues such as, but not limited to internal policies and fee > structures. You?re also subscribed to ARIN-Announce, used by ARIN > staff to provide timely information on key issues affecting our > members and the Internet community. Please also subscribe to our > Public Policy mailing list so you can become active in our policy > development process and following ongoing discussions that may change > the way your organization can obtain future resources from ARIN. To > learn more and to subscribe to these and other ARIN mailing lists, > please visit our Mailing Lists page and join the discussion today! > Please note, you may unsubscribe or manage your ARIN Discuss and/or > Announce mailing list subscriptions anytime by visiting > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss or > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-announce." > > So, no, not all of us explicitly signed up -- I didn't, and dangit, > I'm running out of popcorn. > > Patrick > (via mobile) > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* ARIN-discuss on behalf of > Timothy Pearson > *Sent:* Monday, October 15, 2018 12:12 > *To:* Michael Zindel > *Cc:* arin-discuss at arin.net > *Subject:* Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM > ? > On 10/15/2018 12:53 PM, Michael Zindel wrote: > > Oh man, when I subscribed to ARIN discuss ( * like every single one of > > you did * ) , I had no idea it would be so rewarding . Over 90% of the > > spam on this chain is people complaining about spam./ It can't get any > > better./ > > / > > / > > Filter by subject line if you really don't want to be part of this > > community mailing list. > > Just one small correction -- many of us didn't sign up. On our side at > least, there seems to have been an auto-subscribe to a couple of lists > including this one. > > However, the point of filtering is quite valid. It's a ten second rule > to set up in Thunderbird etc., either unsubscribe or set up the rule. ;-) > > -- > Timothy Pearson > Raptor Engineering > +1 (415) 727-8645 (direct line) > +1 (512) 690-0200 (switchboard) > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.raptorengineering.com&d=DwICAg&c=aXfg9j-An5sFdflqnjAj_USiCjXm5xEBIX8lTgWEt0U&r=ndXpRHR_l6-fSSMwB8IWcqzvwMOOBGvmSxw6OAwOZ-s3pnnxFMOE86VpnVNFZlULn-B6yAq90x-ATA-24WRi7w&m=bPS6c3ygJ_-Ik5xQBR_ZpambDB_-WEapYm3QSAjMRHo&s=LrEeZp7ZXRI2-zTGRVvedDtIE3FFBtUK1d0_yqJboSQ&e= > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.arin.net_mailman_listinfo_arin-2Ddiscuss&d=DwICAg&c=aXfg9j-An5sFdflqnjAj_USiCjXm5xEBIX8lTgWEt0U&r=ndXpRHR_l6-fSSMwB8IWcqzvwMOOBGvmSxw6OAwOZ-s3pnnxFMOE86VpnVNFZlULn-B6yAq90x-ATA-24WRi7w&m=bPS6c3ygJ_-Ik5xQBR_ZpambDB_-WEapYm3QSAjMRHo&s=v6B4jCV71X0cg3H_I4IUK3hEH3oeqavEhvnGxPfiK-k&e= > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patrick.laughton at teleperformance.com Tue Oct 16 13:25:48 2018 From: patrick.laughton at teleperformance.com (Patrick Laughton) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 17:25:48 +0000 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss In-Reply-To: <0d5fce3f-55cd-124a-2ff2-dc7215df66f5@quark.net> References: <440B3A76-B4A3-41BE-83B1-A7F254D1ABE0@arin.net> <003a01d464a9$e108fbe0$a31af3a0$@com> <0BF325AD-79B1-4F2B-803F-5DE37C878FB2@nvtinc.net> <17F17A1F7AA95D46B2A5D35941873629023645F216@SSD-Exchange.ssdis.com> <5BC4D810.3080006@raptorengineering.com> <0d5fce3f-55cd-124a-2ff2-dc7215df66f5@quark.net> Message-ID: Just to be clear - I wasn't protesting the act of full, voting ARIN members being subscribed to ARIN-Discuss, just the assertion that every list member was there by their own explicit actions. I would consider the "welcome" email that I quoted to be sufficiently transparent as to "why I'm getting this 'spam,'" and that the nudge toward the operational community is warranted, given the scope. And it's not like it's wildly complex to unsubscribe (assuming the requests are correctly getting processed, anyway). Patrick From: ARIN-discuss On Behalf Of Andrew Dul Sent: October 16, 2018 10:06 To: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss Perhaps ARIN-discuss should be opt-in rather than opt-out by default. I have no problem with arin-announce being opt-out by default, since that is a moderated and generally low-volume list. Andrew On 10/15/2018 5:52 PM, Patrick Laughton wrote: Timothy, Thanks, I was about to chime in with the same correction and a specific citation. >From the "Welcome New ARIN Member!" email I received: "As a member, you're subscribed to ARIN-Discuss, a member-only forum offering our member community a platform to discuss ARIN-specific issues such as, but not limited to internal policies and fee structures. You're also subscribed to ARIN-Announce, used by ARIN staff to provide timely information on key issues affecting our members and the Internet community. Please also subscribe to our Public Policy mailing list so you can become active in our policy development process and following ongoing discussions that may change the way your organization can obtain future resources from ARIN. To learn more and to subscribe to these and other ARIN mailing lists, please visit our Mailing Lists page and join the discussion today! Please note, you may unsubscribe or manage your ARIN Discuss and/or Announce mailing list subscriptions anytime by visiting http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss or http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-announce." So, no, not all of us explicitly signed up -- I didn't, and dangit, I'm running out of popcorn. Patrick (via mobile) ________________________________ From: ARIN-discuss on behalf of Timothy Pearson Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 12:12 To: Michael Zindel Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM On 10/15/2018 12:53 PM, Michael Zindel wrote: > Oh man, when I subscribed to ARIN discuss ( * like every single one of > you did * ) , I had no idea it would be so rewarding . Over 90% of the > spam on this chain is people complaining about spam./ It can't get any > better./ > / > / > Filter by subject line if you really don't want to be part of this > community mailing list. Just one small correction -- many of us didn't sign up. On our side at least, there seems to have been an auto-subscribe to a couple of lists including this one. However, the point of filtering is quite valid. It's a ten second rule to set up in Thunderbird etc., either unsubscribe or set up the rule. ;-) -- Timothy Pearson Raptor Engineering +1 (415) 727-8645 (direct line) +1 (512) 690-0200 (switchboard) https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.raptorengineering.com&d=DwICAg&c=aXfg9j-An5sFdflqnjAj_USiCjXm5xEBIX8lTgWEt0U&r=ndXpRHR_l6-fSSMwB8IWcqzvwMOOBGvmSxw6OAwOZ-s3pnnxFMOE86VpnVNFZlULn-B6yAq90x-ATA-24WRi7w&m=bPS6c3ygJ_-Ik5xQBR_ZpambDB_-WEapYm3QSAjMRHo&s=LrEeZp7ZXRI2-zTGRVvedDtIE3FFBtUK1d0_yqJboSQ&e= _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.arin.net_mailman_listinfo_arin-2Ddiscuss&d=DwICAg&c=aXfg9j-An5sFdflqnjAj_USiCjXm5xEBIX8lTgWEt0U&r=ndXpRHR_l6-fSSMwB8IWcqzvwMOOBGvmSxw6OAwOZ-s3pnnxFMOE86VpnVNFZlULn-B6yAq90x-ATA-24WRi7w&m=bPS6c3ygJ_-Ik5xQBR_ZpambDB_-WEapYm3QSAjMRHo&s=v6B4jCV71X0cg3H_I4IUK3hEH3oeqavEhvnGxPfiK-k&e= Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jcurran at arin.net Tue Oct 16 13:43:31 2018 From: jcurran at arin.net (John Curran) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 17:43:31 +0000 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss In-Reply-To: References: <440B3A76-B4A3-41BE-83B1-A7F254D1ABE0@arin.net> <003a01d464a9$e108fbe0$a31af3a0$@com> <0BF325AD-79B1-4F2B-803F-5DE37C878FB2@nvtinc.net> <17F17A1F7AA95D46B2A5D35941873629023645F216@SSD-Exchange.ssdis.com> <5BC4D810.3080006@raptorengineering.com> <0d5fce3f-55cd-124a-2ff2-dc7215df66f5@quark.net> Message-ID: <1B225475-ECB4-4048-9398-500C73BF2BE1@arin.net> Patrick - Understood, and to the extent that ARIN is a member-based organization, it?s fairly important that we try to get new members involved in its governance by default. Some may unsubscribe (and then later gripe about fees or services being set without their input?) but that?s still better than them being unaware of their ability to participate. Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO American Registry for Internet Numbers On 16 Oct 2018, at 7:25 PM, Patrick Laughton > wrote: Just to be clear ? I wasn?t protesting the act of full, voting ARIN members being subscribed to ARIN-Discuss, just the assertion that every list member was there by their own explicit actions. I would consider the ?welcome? email that I quoted to be sufficiently transparent as to ?why I?m getting this ?spam,?? and that the nudge toward the operational community is warranted, given the scope. And it?s not like it?s wildly complex to unsubscribe (assuming the requests are correctly getting processed, anyway). Patrick From: ARIN-discuss > On Behalf Of Andrew Dul Sent: October 16, 2018 10:06 To: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss Perhaps ARIN-discuss should be opt-in rather than opt-out by default. I have no problem with arin-announce being opt-out by default, since that is a moderated and generally low-volume list. Andrew On 10/15/2018 5:52 PM, Patrick Laughton wrote: Timothy, Thanks, I was about to chime in with the same correction and a specific citation. From the "Welcome New ARIN Member!" email I received: "As a member, you?re subscribed to ARIN-Discuss, a member-only forum offering our member community a platform to discuss ARIN-specific issues such as, but not limited to internal policies and fee structures. You?re also subscribed to ARIN-Announce, used by ARIN staff to provide timely information on key issues affecting our members and the Internet community. Please also subscribe to our Public Policy mailing list so you can become active in our policy development process and following ongoing discussions that may change the way your organization can obtain future resources from ARIN. To learn more and to subscribe to these and other ARIN mailing lists, please visit our Mailing Lists page and join the discussion today! Please note, you may unsubscribe or manage your ARIN Discuss and/or Announce mailing list subscriptions anytime by visiting http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss or http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-announce." So, no, not all of us explicitly signed up -- I didn't, and dangit, I'm running out of popcorn. Patrick (via mobile) ________________________________ From: ARIN-discuss on behalf of Timothy Pearson Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 12:12 To: Michael Zindel Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM On 10/15/2018 12:53 PM, Michael Zindel wrote: > Oh man, when I subscribed to ARIN discuss ( * like every single one of > you did * ) , I had no idea it would be so rewarding . Over 90% of the > spam on this chain is people complaining about spam./ It can't get any > better./ > / > / > Filter by subject line if you really don't want to be part of this > community mailing list. Just one small correction -- many of us didn't sign up. On our side at least, there seems to have been an auto-subscribe to a couple of lists including this one. However, the point of filtering is quite valid. It's a ten second rule to set up in Thunderbird etc., either unsubscribe or set up the rule. ;-) -- Timothy Pearson Raptor Engineering +1 (415) 727-8645 (direct line) +1 (512) 690-0200 (switchboard) https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.raptorengineering.com&d=DwICAg&c=aXfg9j-An5sFdflqnjAj_USiCjXm5xEBIX8lTgWEt0U&r=ndXpRHR_l6-fSSMwB8IWcqzvwMOOBGvmSxw6OAwOZ-s3pnnxFMOE86VpnVNFZlULn-B6yAq90x-ATA-24WRi7w&m=bPS6c3ygJ_-Ik5xQBR_ZpambDB_-WEapYm3QSAjMRHo&s=LrEeZp7ZXRI2-zTGRVvedDtIE3FFBtUK1d0_yqJboSQ&e= _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.arin.net_mailman_listinfo_arin-2Ddiscuss&d=DwICAg&c=aXfg9j-An5sFdflqnjAj_USiCjXm5xEBIX8lTgWEt0U&r=ndXpRHR_l6-fSSMwB8IWcqzvwMOOBGvmSxw6OAwOZ-s3pnnxFMOE86VpnVNFZlULn-B6yAq90x-ATA-24WRi7w&m=bPS6c3ygJ_-Ik5xQBR_ZpambDB_-WEapYm3QSAjMRHo&s=v6B4jCV71X0cg3H_I4IUK3hEH3oeqavEhvnGxPfiK-k&e= Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From owen at delong.com Tue Oct 16 14:06:38 2018 From: owen at delong.com (Owen DeLong) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 11:06:38 -0700 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss In-Reply-To: <0d5fce3f-55cd-124a-2ff2-dc7215df66f5@quark.net> References: <440B3A76-B4A3-41BE-83B1-A7F254D1ABE0@arin.net> <003a01d464a9$e108fbe0$a31af3a0$@com> <0BF325AD-79B1-4F2B-803F-5DE37C878FB2@nvtinc.net> <17F17A1F7AA95D46B2A5D35941873629023645F216@SSD-Exchange.ssdis.com> <5BC4D810.3080006@raptorengineering.com> <0d5fce3f-55cd-124a-2ff2-dc7215df66f5@quark.net> Message-ID: <37DFB159-192C-4D3C-A53E-CCD5925A7ECF@delong.com> It seems to me that arin-discuss is generally low volume as well. Once a year, we get a flurry of emails about election spam. Perhaps we should disallow election spam rather than changing the opt-in/opt-out policy for arin-discuss. Owen > On Oct 16, 2018, at 09:06 , Andrew Dul wrote: > > Perhaps ARIN-discuss should be opt-in rather than opt-out by default. I have no problem with arin-announce being opt-out by default, since that is a moderated and generally low-volume list. > > Andrew > > On 10/15/2018 5:52 PM, Patrick Laughton wrote: >> Timothy, >> >> Thanks, I was about to chime in with the same correction and a specific citation. >> >> From the "Welcome New ARIN Member!" email I received: >> >> "As a member, you?re subscribed to ARIN-Discuss, a member-only forum offering our member community a platform to discuss ARIN-specific issues such as, but not limited to internal policies and fee structures. You?re also subscribed to ARIN-Announce, used by ARIN staff to provide timely information on key issues affecting our members and the Internet community. Please also subscribe to our Public Policy mailing list so you can become active in our policy development process and following ongoing discussions that may change the way your organization can obtain future resources from ARIN. To learn more and to subscribe to these and other ARIN mailing lists, please visit our Mailing Lists page and join the discussion today! Please note, you may unsubscribe or manage your ARIN Discuss and/or Announce mailing list subscriptions anytime by visiting http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss or http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-announce ." >> >> So, no, not all of us explicitly signed up -- I didn't, and dangit, I'm running out of popcorn. >> >> Patrick >> (via mobile) >> From: ARIN-discuss on behalf of Timothy Pearson >> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 12:12 >> To: Michael Zindel >> Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net >> Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM >> >> On 10/15/2018 12:53 PM, Michael Zindel wrote: >> > Oh man, when I subscribed to ARIN discuss ( * like every single one of >> > you did * ) , I had no idea it would be so rewarding . Over 90% of the >> > spam on this chain is people complaining about spam./ It can't get any >> > better./ >> > / >> > / >> > Filter by subject line if you really don't want to be part of this >> > community mailing list. >> >> Just one small correction -- many of us didn't sign up. On our side at >> least, there seems to have been an auto-subscribe to a couple of lists >> including this one. >> >> However, the point of filtering is quite valid. It's a ten second rule >> to set up in Thunderbird etc., either unsubscribe or set up the rule. ;-) >> >> -- >> Timothy Pearson >> Raptor Engineering >> +1 (415) 727-8645 (direct line) >> +1 (512) 690-0200 (switchboard) >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.raptorengineering.com&d=DwICAg&c=aXfg9j-An5sFdflqnjAj_USiCjXm5xEBIX8lTgWEt0U&r=ndXpRHR_l6-fSSMwB8IWcqzvwMOOBGvmSxw6OAwOZ-s3pnnxFMOE86VpnVNFZlULn-B6yAq90x-ATA-24WRi7w&m=bPS6c3ygJ_-Ik5xQBR_ZpambDB_-WEapYm3QSAjMRHo&s=LrEeZp7ZXRI2-zTGRVvedDtIE3FFBtUK1d0_yqJboSQ&e= >> _______________________________________________ >> ARIN-Discuss >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.arin.net_mailman_listinfo_arin-2Ddiscuss&d=DwICAg&c=aXfg9j-An5sFdflqnjAj_USiCjXm5xEBIX8lTgWEt0U&r=ndXpRHR_l6-fSSMwB8IWcqzvwMOOBGvmSxw6OAwOZ-s3pnnxFMOE86VpnVNFZlULn-B6yAq90x-ATA-24WRi7w&m=bPS6c3ygJ_-Ik5xQBR_ZpambDB_-WEapYm3QSAjMRHo&s=v6B4jCV71X0cg3H_I4IUK3hEH3oeqavEhvnGxPfiK-k&e= >> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ARIN-Discuss >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jcurran at arin.net Tue Oct 16 14:24:22 2018 From: jcurran at arin.net (John Curran) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 18:24:22 +0000 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning In-Reply-To: <37DFB159-192C-4D3C-A53E-CCD5925A7ECF@delong.com> References: <440B3A76-B4A3-41BE-83B1-A7F254D1ABE0@arin.net> <003a01d464a9$e108fbe0$a31af3a0$@com> <0BF325AD-79B1-4F2B-803F-5DE37C878FB2@nvtinc.net> <17F17A1F7AA95D46B2A5D35941873629023645F216@SSD-Exchange.ssdis.com> <5BC4D810.3080006@raptorengineering.com> <0d5fce3f-55cd-124a-2ff2-dc7215df66f5@quark.net> <37DFB159-192C-4D3C-A53E-CCD5925A7ECF@delong.com> Message-ID: <49FCADFF-96B9-4588-ACF9-AA1C6E54D74E@arin.net> On 16 Oct 2018, at 8:06 PM, Owen DeLong > wrote: Perhaps we should disallow election spam rather than changing the opt-in/opt-out policy for arin-discuss. Owen - You have perfect timing, as I was about to send a message to reopen this discussion? Folks - Last week, while our election was underway, I sent the following to arin-discuss: "Once this election is complete, we can then enjoy a discussion of whether any changes to our Whois terms of use (or our election processes in general) is warranted in this regard. " I will note that ARIN?s 2018 election is complete ? https://www.arin.net/announcements/2018/20181015.html I?d like to congratulate all of those elected, and thank everyone who ran for the ARIN Board, ARIN AC, or the NRO NC. With this election complete, it?s now timely to discuss the matter of campaign emails. As many of you are aware, ARIN is required to provide the list of organizations that are eligible to vote in each election, and while we do not include email addresses in that list, each year we have several folks up for election who send emails to the electorate asking for their support. ARIN?s stance on this has historically been that those people who receive the emails asking for support are in the best position to weigh the merits of each candidate and their email practices, and thus we do not specifically encourage or prohibit such communications in the election processes. Similarly, ARIN?s terms of use for its ARIN Whois service does not specifically prohibit use of Whois data for election outreach purposes, and it is apparent that some candidates are using ARIN Whois to obtain related email addressed for their campaigning. It would be good to discuss ARIN?s current stance on this issue, in order to inform the ARIN Board in their consideration if any change is warranted. To the end, please comment on the question: ?Should ARIN?s election processes prohibit bulk campaign email to the electorate, or is the present approach suitable as-is?? 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Once a year, we get a flurry of emails about election spam. > > Perhaps we should disallow election spam rather than changing the opt-in/opt-out policy for arin-discuss. I think you have a good point, Owen. At the very least, complaints should go to abuse@, not arin-discuss at . Michael ----- Michael H Lambert, GigaPoP Manager Phone: +1 412 268-4960 Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center/3ROX FAX: +1 412 268-5832 300 S Craig St, Pittsburgh, PA 15213 USA lambert at psc.edu From rick at ewart.net Tue Oct 16 14:37:23 2018 From: rick at ewart.net (Rick Ewart) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:37:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning In-Reply-To: <49FCADFF-96B9-4588-ACF9-AA1C6E54D74E@arin.net> References: <440B3A76-B4A3-41BE-83B1-A7F254D1ABE0@arin.net> <003a01d464a9$e108fbe0$a31af3a0$@com> <0BF325AD-79B1-4F2B-803F-5DE37C878FB2@nvtinc.net> <17F17A1F7AA95D46B2A5D35941873629023645F216@SSD-Exchange.ssdis.com> <5BC4D810.3080006@raptorengineering.com> <0d5fce3f-55c d-124a-2ff2-dc 7215df66f5@quark.net> <37DFB159-192C-4D3C-A53E-CCD5925A7ECF@delong.com> <49FCADFF-96B9-4588-ACF9-AA1C6E54D74E@arin.net> Message-ID: <01d301d4657f$a8bfefb0$fa3fcf10$@ewart.net> Hi All. Seems to me that just doing a prohibition on using the mailing list for campaigning purposes would solve the direct issue. As to Whois information and such, my 2 cents is that there is no real need to touch/attack that. That information is public info that doesn't have an opt-in/opt-out process and thus is no different than if some company looked it up to spam someone for any reason. If a candidate feels it would help them (some might say it would hurt them), then so be it. But then again, I wasn't upset to begin with so... :P Take care, Rick Rick Ewart, CPA, CISSP, CAMS Ewart Technologies, Inc. 15751 Sheridan St, #160 Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33331 rick at ewart.net From: ARIN-discuss [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of John Curran Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 2:24 PM To: Owen DeLong Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning Importance: High On 16 Oct 2018, at 8:06 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: Perhaps we should disallow election spam rather than changing the opt-in/opt-out policy for arin-discuss. Owen - You have perfect timing, as I was about to send a message to reopen this discussion. Folks - Last week, while our election was underway, I sent the following to arin-discuss: "Once this election is complete, we can then enjoy a discussion of whether any changes to our Whois terms of use (or our election processes in general) is warranted in this regard. " I will note that ARIN's 2018 election is complete - https://www.arin.net/announcements/2018/20181015.html I'd like to congratulate all of those elected, and thank everyone who ran for the ARIN Board, ARIN AC, or the NRO NC. With this election complete, it's now timely to discuss the matter of campaign emails. As many of you are aware, ARIN is required to provide the list of organizations that are eligible to vote in each election, and while we do not include email addresses in that list, each year we have several folks up for election who send emails to the electorate asking for their support. ARIN's stance on this has historically been that those people who receive the emails asking for support are in the best position to weigh the merits of each candidate and their email practices, and thus we do not specifically encourage or prohibit such communications in the election processes. Similarly, ARIN's terms of use for its ARIN Whois service does not specifically prohibit use of Whois data for election outreach purposes, and it is apparent that some candidates are using ARIN Whois to obtain related email addressed for their campaigning. It would be good to discuss ARIN's current stance on this issue, in order to inform the ARIN Board in their consideration if any change is warranted. To the end, please comment on the question: "Should ARIN's election processes prohibit bulk campaign email to the electorate, or is the present approach suitable as-is?" Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO American Registry for Internet Numbers -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rwright at abtechtechnologies.com Tue Oct 16 15:13:54 2018 From: rwright at abtechtechnologies.com (Robby Wright) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 19:13:54 +0000 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning In-Reply-To: <01d301d4657f$a8bfefb0$fa3fcf10$@ewart.net> References: <440B3A76-B4A3-41BE-83B1-A7F254D1ABE0@arin.net> <003a01d464a9$e108fbe0$a31af3a0$@com> <0BF325AD-79B1-4F2B-803F-5DE37C878FB2@nvtinc.net> <17F17A1F7AA95D46B2A5D35941873629023645F216@SSD-Exchange.ssdis.com> <5BC4D810.3080006@raptorengineering.com> <0d5fce3f-55c d-124a-2ff2-dc 7215df66f5@quark.net> <37DFB159-192C-4D3C-A53E-CCD5925A7ECF@delong.com> <49FCADFF-96B9-4588-ACF9-AA1C6E54D74E@arin.net> <01d301d4657f$a8bfefb0$fa3fcf10$@ewart.net> Message-ID: <99c8f8ec5468489ab40185cb9678c205@ABT-EXCH01.Abtech.local> Maybe giving each candidate a single email blast to present themselves would reduce the mess. Then restrict all other campaign usage. The campaign materials could be combined into a smaller number of emails. I have to admit it would be nice to know who I am voting for. Robby Wright Chief Architect and Consultant Abtech Technologies, Inc. 760-827-5141 From: ARIN-discuss On Behalf Of Rick Ewart Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 11:37 AM To: John Curran ; Owen DeLong Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning Hi All. Seems to me that just doing a prohibition on using the mailing list for campaigning purposes would solve the direct issue. As to Whois information and such, my 2 cents is that there is no real need to touch/attack that. That information is public info that doesn't have an opt-in/opt-out process and thus is no different than if some company looked it up to spam someone for any reason. If a candidate feels it would help them (some might say it would hurt them), then so be it. But then again, I wasn't upset to begin with so..... :P Take care, Rick Rick Ewart, CPA, CISSP, CAMS Ewart Technologies, Inc. 15751 Sheridan St, #160 Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33331 rick at ewart.net From: ARIN-discuss [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of John Curran Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 2:24 PM To: Owen DeLong Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning Importance: High On 16 Oct 2018, at 8:06 PM, Owen DeLong > wrote: Perhaps we should disallow election spam rather than changing the opt-in/opt-out policy for arin-discuss. Owen - You have perfect timing, as I was about to send a message to reopen this discussion... Folks - Last week, while our election was underway, I sent the following to arin-discuss: "Once this election is complete, we can then enjoy a discussion of whether any changes to our Whois terms of use (or our election processes in general) is warranted in this regard. " I will note that ARIN's 2018 election is complete - https://www.arin.net/announcements/2018/20181015.html I'd like to congratulate all of those elected, and thank everyone who ran for the ARIN Board, ARIN AC, or the NRO NC. With this election complete, it's now timely to discuss the matter of campaign emails. As many of you are aware, ARIN is required to provide the list of organizations that are eligible to vote in each election, and while we do not include email addresses in that list, each year we have several folks up for election who send emails to the electorate asking for their support. ARIN's stance on this has historically been that those people who receive the emails asking for support are in the best position to weigh the merits of each candidate and their email practices, and thus we do not specifically encourage or prohibit such communications in the election processes. Similarly, ARIN's terms of use for its ARIN Whois service does not specifically prohibit use of Whois data for election outreach purposes, and it is apparent that some candidates are using ARIN Whois to obtain related email addressed for their campaigning. It would be good to discuss ARIN's current stance on this issue, in order to inform the ARIN Board in their consideration if any change is warranted. To the end, please comment on the question: "Should ARIN's election processes prohibit bulk campaign email to the electorate, or is the present approach suitable as-is?" Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO American Registry for Internet Numbers ________________________________ This email has been scanned for spam and viruses by Proofpoint Essentials. Click here to report this email as spam. Please ask us about Cloud Backup and Disaster Recovery services for your Windows, Linux or Legacy Systems. 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RootOwner/OperatorRoot Automation -------- Original message --------From: Rick Ewart Date: 10/16/18 11:37 AM (GMT-08:00) To: John Curran , Owen DeLong Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning Hi All.?Seems to me that just doing a prohibition on using the mailing list for campaigning purposes would solve the direct issue.?As to Whois information and such, my 2 cents is that there is no real need to touch/attack that. That information is public info that doesn?t have an opt-in/opt-out process and thus is no different than if some company looked it up to spam someone for any reason. If a candidate feels it would help them (some might say it would hurt them), then so be it.?But then again, I wasn?t upset to begin with so?.. :P?Take care,Rick?Rick Ewart, CPA, CISSP, CAMSEwart Technologies, Inc.15751 Sheridan St, #160Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33331rick at ewart.net???From: ARIN-discuss [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of John Curran Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 2:24 PM To: Owen DeLong Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning Importance: High?On 16 Oct 2018, at 8:06 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:?Perhaps we should disallow election spam rather than changing the opt-in/opt-out policy for arin-discuss.?Owen - You have perfect timing, as I was about to send a message to reopen this discussion? ????Folks -?Last week, while our election was underway, I sent the following to arin-discuss: ?"Once this election is complete, we can then enjoy a discussion of whether any changes to our Whois terms of use (or our election processes in general) is warranted in this regard.?"?I will note that ARIN?s 2018 election is complete ??https://www.arin.net/announcements/2018/20181015.html?I?d like to congratulate all of those elected, and thank everyone who ran for the ARIN Board, ARIN AC, or the NRO NC.?With this election complete, it?s now timely to discuss the matter of campaign emails. ?As many of you are aware, ARIN is required to provide the list of organizations that are eligible to vote in each election, and while we do not include email addresses in that list, each year we have several folks up for election who send emails to the electorate asking for their support.??ARIN?s stance on this has historically been that those people who receive the emails asking for support are in the best position to weigh the merits of each candidate and their email practices, and thus we do not specifically encourage or prohibit such communications in the election processes. ?Similarly, ARIN?s terms of use for its ARIN Whois service does not specifically prohibit use of Whois data for election outreach purposes, and it is apparent that some candidates are using ARIN Whois to obtain related email addressed for their campaigning.??It would be good to discuss ARIN?s current stance on this issue, in order to inform the ARIN Board in their consideration if any change is warranted. ???To the end, please comment on the question: ??Should ARIN?s election processes prohibit bulk campaign email ?to the electorate, or is the present approach suitable as-is???Thanks!/John?John CurranPresident and CEOAmerican Registry for Internet Numbers??? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ptimmins at clearrate.com Tue Oct 16 15:47:44 2018 From: ptimmins at clearrate.com (Paul Timmins) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 15:47:44 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning In-Reply-To: <99c8f8ec5468489ab40185cb9678c205@ABT-EXCH01.Abtech.local> References: <003a01d464a9$e108fbe0$a31af3a0$@com> <0BF325AD-79B1-4F2B-803F-5DE37C878FB2@nvtinc.net> <17F17A1F7AA95D46B2A5D35941873629023645F216@SSD-Exchange.ssdis.com> <5BC4D810.3080006@raptorengineering.com> <0d5fce3f-55c d-124a-2ff2-dc 7215df66f5@quark.net> <37DFB159-192C-4D3C-A53E-CCD5925A7ECF@delong.com> <49FCADFF-96B9-4588-ACF9-AA1C6E54D74E@arin.net> <01d301d4657f$a8bfefb0$fa3fcf10$@ewart.net> <99c8f8ec5468489ab40185cb9678c205@ABT-EXCH01.Abtech.local> Message-ID: <8b5f13c5-d248-d33d-a3b8-d414da21e666@clearrate.com> I'm in favor of making the voting contacts available to the campaigns, with an opt out for those who are truly bothered. I would appreciate hearing from candidates, it might actually motivate me to research them and actually cast a vote. Whatever we have now doesn't reach me usefully and I'd basically be picking candidates based on name familiarity and coin flips otherwise. Might even be more effective than leaving voicemails on my cell phone to vote for people I've never heard of. -Paul On 10/16/2018 03:13 PM, Robby Wright wrote: > > Maybe giving each candidate a single email blast to present themselves > would reduce the mess. Then restrict all other campaign usage. The > campaign materials could be combined into a smaller number of emails. > I have to admit it would be nice to know who I am voting for. > > Robby Wright > > Chief Architect and Consultant > > Abtech Technologies, Inc. > > 760-827-5141 > > *From:*ARIN-discuss *On Behalf Of > *Rick Ewart > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 16, 2018 11:37 AM > *To:* John Curran ; Owen DeLong > *Cc:* arin-discuss at arin.net > *Subject:* Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email > Campaigning > > Hi All. > > Seems to me that just doing a prohibition on using the mailing list > for campaigning purposes would solve the direct issue. > > As to Whois information and such, my 2 cents is that there is no real > need to touch/attack that. That information is public info that > doesn?t have an opt-in/opt-out process and thus is no different than > if some company looked it up to spam someone for any reason. If a > candidate feels it would help them (some might say it would hurt > them), then so be it. > > But then again, I wasn?t upset to begin with so?.. :P > > Take care, > > Rick > > Rick Ewart, CPA, CISSP, CAMS > > Ewart Technologies, Inc. > > 15751 Sheridan St, #160 > > Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33331 > > rick at ewart.net > > *From:*ARIN-discuss [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] *On Behalf > Of *John Curran > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 16, 2018 2:24 PM > *To:* Owen DeLong > *Cc:* arin-discuss at arin.net > *Subject:* [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning > *Importance:* High > > On 16 Oct 2018, at 8:06 PM, Owen DeLong > wrote: > > Perhaps we should disallow election spam rather than changing the > opt-in/opt-out policy for arin-discuss. > > Owen - You have perfect timing, as I was about to send a message to > reopen this discussion? > > Folks - > > Last week, while our election was underway, I sent the following to > arin-discuss: ?"Once this election is complete, we can then enjoy a > discussion of whether any changes to our Whois terms of use (or our > election processes in general) is warranted in this regard.?" > > I will note that ARIN?s 2018 election is complete ? > https://www.arin.net/announcements/2018/20181015.html > > I?d like to congratulate all of those elected, and thank everyone who > ran for the ARIN Board, ARIN AC, or the NRO NC. > > With this election complete, it?s now timely to discuss the matter of > campaign emails. ?As many of you are aware, ARIN is required to > provide the list of organizations that are eligible to vote in each > election, and while we do not include email addresses in that list, > each year we have several folks up for election who send emails to the > electorate asking for their support. > > ARIN?s stance on this has historically been that those people who > receive the emails asking for support are in the best position to > weigh the merits of each candidate and their email practices, and thus > we do not specifically encourage or prohibit such communications in > the election processes. ?Similarly, ARIN?s terms of use for its ARIN > Whois service does not specifically prohibit use of Whois data for > election outreach purposes, and it is apparent that some candidates > are using ARIN Whois to obtain related email addressed for their > campaigning. > > It would be good to discuss ARIN?s current stance on this issue, in > order to inform the ARIN Board in their consideration if any change is > warranted. > > To the end, please comment on the question: ??Should ARIN?s election > processes prohibit bulk campaign email ?to the electorate, or is the > present approach suitable as-is?? > > Thanks! > > /John > > John Curran > > President and CEO > > American Registry for Internet Numbers > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > This email has been scanned for spam and viruses by Proofpoint > Essentials. 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URL: From patrick.laughton at teleperformance.com Tue Oct 16 15:57:36 2018 From: patrick.laughton at teleperformance.com (Patrick Laughton) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 19:57:36 +0000 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning In-Reply-To: <8b5f13c5-d248-d33d-a3b8-d414da21e666@clearrate.com> References: <003a01d464a9$e108fbe0$a31af3a0$@com> <0BF325AD-79B1-4F2B-803F-5DE37C878FB2@nvtinc.net> <17F17A1F7AA95D46B2A5D35941873629023645F216@SSD-Exchange.ssdis.com> <5BC4D810.3080006@raptorengineering.com> <0d5fce3f-55c d-124a-2ff2-dc 7215df66f5@quark.net> <37DFB159-192C-4D3C-A53E-CCD5925A7ECF@delong.com> <49FCADFF-96B9-4588-ACF9-AA1C6E54D74E@arin.net> <01d301d4657f$a8bfefb0$fa3fcf10$@ewart.net> <99c8f8ec5468489ab40185cb9678c205@ABT-EXCH01.Abtech.local> <8b5f13c5-d248-d33d-a3b8-d414da21e666@clearrate.com> Message-ID: I skimmed the candidate profiles right after voting opened, but hadn't gotten around to voting until after the controversy started. To be honest, I was dead set to vote against any candidate who emailed me when I got back to it, but damned if they weren't well-qualified and seemed like a right choice, other than mildly irking me with an unsolicited email. Patrick From: ARIN-discuss On Behalf Of Paul Timmins Sent: October 16, 2018 13:48 To: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning I'm in favor of making the voting contacts available to the campaigns, with an opt out for those who are truly bothered. I would appreciate hearing from candidates, it might actually motivate me to research them and actually cast a vote. Whatever we have now doesn't reach me usefully and I'd basically be picking candidates based on name familiarity and coin flips otherwise. Might even be more effective than leaving voicemails on my cell phone to vote for people I've never heard of. -Paul On 10/16/2018 03:13 PM, Robby Wright wrote: Maybe giving each candidate a single email blast to present themselves would reduce the mess. Then restrict all other campaign usage. The campaign materials could be combined into a smaller number of emails. I have to admit it would be nice to know who I am voting for. Robby Wright Chief Architect and Consultant Abtech Technologies, Inc. 760-827-5141 From: ARIN-discuss On Behalf Of Rick Ewart Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 11:37 AM To: John Curran ; Owen DeLong Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning Hi All. Seems to me that just doing a prohibition on using the mailing list for campaigning purposes would solve the direct issue. As to Whois information and such, my 2 cents is that there is no real need to touch/attack that. That information is public info that doesn't have an opt-in/opt-out process and thus is no different than if some company looked it up to spam someone for any reason. If a candidate feels it would help them (some might say it would hurt them), then so be it. But then again, I wasn't upset to begin with so..... :P Take care, Rick Rick Ewart, CPA, CISSP, CAMS Ewart Technologies, Inc. 15751 Sheridan St, #160 Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33331 rick at ewart.net From: ARIN-discuss [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of John Curran Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 2:24 PM To: Owen DeLong Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning Importance: High On 16 Oct 2018, at 8:06 PM, Owen DeLong > wrote: Perhaps we should disallow election spam rather than changing the opt-in/opt-out policy for arin-discuss. Owen - You have perfect timing, as I was about to send a message to reopen this discussion... Folks - Last week, while our election was underway, I sent the following to arin-discuss: "Once this election is complete, we can then enjoy a discussion of whether any changes to our Whois terms of use (or our election processes in general) is warranted in this regard. " I will note that ARIN's 2018 election is complete - https://www.arin.net/announcements/2018/20181015.html I'd like to congratulate all of those elected, and thank everyone who ran for the ARIN Board, ARIN AC, or the NRO NC. With this election complete, it's now timely to discuss the matter of campaign emails. As many of you are aware, ARIN is required to provide the list of organizations that are eligible to vote in each election, and while we do not include email addresses in that list, each year we have several folks up for election who send emails to the electorate asking for their support. ARIN's stance on this has historically been that those people who receive the emails asking for support are in the best position to weigh the merits of each candidate and their email practices, and thus we do not specifically encourage or prohibit such communications in the election processes. Similarly, ARIN's terms of use for its ARIN Whois service does not specifically prohibit use of Whois data for election outreach purposes, and it is apparent that some candidates are using ARIN Whois to obtain related email addressed for their campaigning. It would be good to discuss ARIN's current stance on this issue, in order to inform the ARIN Board in their consideration if any change is warranted. To the end, please comment on the question: "Should ARIN's election processes prohibit bulk campaign email to the electorate, or is the present approach suitable as-is?" 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URL: From matt at reenigne.net Tue Oct 16 16:06:15 2018 From: matt at reenigne.net (Matt Vandermeulen) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 16:06:15 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning In-Reply-To: <9d056533-eac8-abdf-0a26-c46b83c5c218@FORETHOUGHT.net> References: <0BF325AD-79B1-4F2B-803F-5DE37C878FB2@nvtinc.net> <17F17A1F7AA95D46B2A5D35941873629023645F216@SSD-Exchange.ssdis.com> <5BC4D810.3080006@raptorengineering.com> <0d5fce3f-55c d-124a-2ff2-dc 7215df66f5@quark.net> <37DFB159-192C-4D3C-A53E-CCD5925A7ECF@delong.com> <49FCADFF-96B9-4588-ACF9-AA1C6E54D74E@arin.net> <01d301d4657f$a8bfefb0$fa3fcf10$@ewart.net> <99c8f8ec5468489ab40185cb9678c205@ABT-EXCH01.Abtech.local> <8b5f13c5-d248-d33d-a3b8-d414da21e666@clearrate.com> <9d056533-eac8-abdf-0a26-c46b83c5c218@FORETHOUGHT.net> Message-ID: <73fb9f1e50a020eedb834bcda3bc2d66@reenigne.net> I think I agree. If this was something ARIN did on behalf of the candidates, with short descriptions that are similar for each candidate, that'd be acceptable to most POCs. Of course, if ARIN were sending it out on their behalf, would it be up to ARIN to validate the descriptions for each (i.e. claims of experience etc)? Either way, I think that a short bio for each candidate, with a link to read more about them for each voter to do their own research would be beneficial... much more beneficial than the multiple reminder emails from ARIN to vote. Thanks, Matt On 2018-10-16 16:02, Jawaid Bazyar wrote: > How about send an email with short bios of candidates, and links to > pages with more info. And have same on the ARIN web site. > > On 10/16/2018 01:57 PM, Patrick Laughton wrote: > >> I skimmed the candidate profiles right after voting opened, but >> hadn?t gotten around to voting until after the controversy >> started. To be honest, I was dead set to vote against any candidate >> who emailed me when I got back to it, but damned if they weren?t >> well-qualified and seemed like a right choice, other than mildly >> irking me with an unsolicited email. >> >> Patrick >> >> FROM: ARIN-discuss ON BEHALF OF Paul >> Timmins >> SENT: October 16, 2018 13:48 >> TO: arin-discuss at arin.net >> SUBJECT: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email >> Campaigning >> >> I'm in favor of making the voting contacts available to the >> campaigns, with an opt out for those who are truly bothered. I would >> appreciate hearing from candidates, it might actually motivate me to >> research them and actually cast a vote. Whatever we have now doesn't >> reach me usefully and I'd basically be picking candidates based on >> name familiarity and coin flips otherwise. Might even be more >> effective than leaving voicemails on my cell phone to vote for >> people I've never heard of. >> >> -Paul >> >> On 10/16/2018 03:13 PM, Robby Wright wrote: >> >> Maybe giving each candidate a single email blast to present >> themselves would reduce the mess. Then restrict all other campaign >> usage. The campaign materials could be combined into a smaller >> number of emails. I have to admit it would be nice to know who I am >> voting for. >> >> Robby Wright >> >> Chief Architect and Consultant >> >> Abtech Technologies, Inc. >> >> 760-827-5141 >> >> FROM: ARIN-discuss ON BEHALF OF Rick >> Ewart >> SENT: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 11:37 AM >> TO: John Curran ; Owen DeLong >> CC: arin-discuss at arin.net >> SUBJECT: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email >> Campaigning >> >> Hi All. >> >> Seems to me that just doing a prohibition on using the mailing list >> for campaigning purposes would solve the direct issue. >> >> As to Whois information and such, my 2 cents is that there is no >> real need to touch/attack that. That information is public info that >> doesn?t have an opt-in/opt-out process and thus is no different >> than if some company looked it up to spam someone for any reason. If >> a candidate feels it would help them (some might say it would hurt >> them), then so be it. >> >> But then again, I wasn?t upset to begin with so?.. :P >> >> Take care, >> >> Rick >> >> Rick Ewart, CPA, CISSP, CAMS >> >> Ewart Technologies, Inc. >> >> 15751 Sheridan St, #160 >> >> Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33331 >> >> rick at ewart.net >> >> FROM: ARIN-discuss [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] ON BEHALF >> OF John Curran >> SENT: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 2:24 PM >> TO: Owen DeLong >> CC: arin-discuss at arin.net >> SUBJECT: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email >> Campaigning >> IMPORTANCE: High >> >> On 16 Oct 2018, at 8:06 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: >> >> Perhaps we should disallow election spam rather than changing the >> opt-in/opt-out policy for arin-discuss. >> >> Owen - You have perfect timing, as I was about to send a message to >> reopen this discussion? >> >> Folks - >> >> Last week, while our election was underway, I sent the following to >> arin-discuss: "Once this election is complete, we can then enjoy a >> discussion of whether any changes to our Whois terms of use (or our >> election processes in general) is warranted in this regard. " >> >> I will note that ARIN?s 2018 election is complete ? >> https://www.arin.net/announcements/2018/20181015.html [2] >> >> I?d like to congratulate all of those elected, and thank everyone >> who ran for the ARIN Board, ARIN AC, or the NRO NC. >> >> With this election complete, it?s now timely to discuss the matter >> of campaign emails. As many of you are aware, ARIN is required to >> provide the list of organizations that are eligible to vote in each >> election, and while we do not include email addresses in that list, >> each year we have several folks up for election who send emails to >> the electorate asking for their support. >> >> ARIN?s stance on this has historically been that those people who >> receive the emails asking for support are in the best position to >> weigh the merits of each candidate and their email practices, and >> thus we do not specifically encourage or prohibit such >> communications in the election processes. Similarly, ARIN?s terms >> of use for its ARIN Whois service does not specifically prohibit use >> of Whois data for election outreach purposes, and it is apparent >> that some candidates are using ARIN Whois to obtain related email >> addressed for their campaigning. >> >> It would be good to discuss ARIN?s current stance on this issue, >> in order to inform the ARIN Board in their consideration if any >> change is warranted. >> >> To the end, please comment on the question: ?Should ARIN?s >> election processes prohibit bulk campaign email to the electorate, >> or is the present approach suitable as-is?? >> >> Thanks! >> >> /John >> >> John Curran >> >> President and CEO >> >> American Registry for Internet Numbers >> >> ------------------------- >> >> This email has been scanned for spam and viruses by Proofpoint >> Essentials. 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From patrick.laughton at teleperformance.com Tue Oct 16 16:07:50 2018 From: patrick.laughton at teleperformance.com (Patrick Laughton) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 20:07:50 +0000 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning In-Reply-To: <9d056533-eac8-abdf-0a26-c46b83c5c218@FORETHOUGHT.net> References: <0BF325AD-79B1-4F2B-803F-5DE37C878FB2@nvtinc.net> <17F17A1F7AA95D46B2A5D35941873629023645F216@SSD-Exchange.ssdis.com> <5BC4D810.3080006@raptorengineering.com> <0d5fce3f-55c d-124a-2ff2-dc 7215df66f5@quark.net> <37DFB159-192C-4D3C-A53E-CCD5925A7ECF@delong.com> <49FCADFF-96B9-4588-ACF9-AA1C6E54D74E@arin.net> <01d301d4657f$a8bfefb0$fa3fcf10$@ewart.net> <99c8f8ec5468489ab40185cb9678c205@ABT-EXCH01.Abtech.local> <8b5f13c5-d248-d33d-a3b8-d414da21e666@clearrate.com> <9d056533-eac8-abdf-0a26-c46b83c5c218@FORETHOUGHT.net> Message-ID: Jawaid, https://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-announce/2018-October/002272.html , FWIW. Patrick From: ARIN-discuss On Behalf Of Jawaid Bazyar Sent: October 16, 2018 14:03 To: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning How about send an email with short bios of candidates, and links to pages with more info. And have same on the ARIN web site. On 10/16/2018 01:57 PM, Patrick Laughton wrote: I skimmed the candidate profiles right after voting opened, but hadn't gotten around to voting until after the controversy started. To be honest, I was dead set to vote against any candidate who emailed me when I got back to it, but damned if they weren't well-qualified and seemed like a right choice, other than mildly irking me with an unsolicited email. Patrick From: ARIN-discuss On Behalf Of Paul Timmins Sent: October 16, 2018 13:48 To: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning I'm in favor of making the voting contacts available to the campaigns, with an opt out for those who are truly bothered. I would appreciate hearing from candidates, it might actually motivate me to research them and actually cast a vote. Whatever we have now doesn't reach me usefully and I'd basically be picking candidates based on name familiarity and coin flips otherwise. Might even be more effective than leaving voicemails on my cell phone to vote for people I've never heard of. -Paul On 10/16/2018 03:13 PM, Robby Wright wrote: Maybe giving each candidate a single email blast to present themselves would reduce the mess. Then restrict all other campaign usage. The campaign materials could be combined into a smaller number of emails. I have to admit it would be nice to know who I am voting for. Robby Wright Chief Architect and Consultant Abtech Technologies, Inc. 760-827-5141 From: ARIN-discuss On Behalf Of Rick Ewart Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 11:37 AM To: John Curran ; Owen DeLong Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning Hi All. Seems to me that just doing a prohibition on using the mailing list for campaigning purposes would solve the direct issue. As to Whois information and such, my 2 cents is that there is no real need to touch/attack that. That information is public info that doesn't have an opt-in/opt-out process and thus is no different than if some company looked it up to spam someone for any reason. If a candidate feels it would help them (some might say it would hurt them), then so be it. But then again, I wasn't upset to begin with so..... :P Take care, Rick Rick Ewart, CPA, CISSP, CAMS Ewart Technologies, Inc. 15751 Sheridan St, #160 Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33331 rick at ewart.net From: ARIN-discuss [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of John Curran Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 2:24 PM To: Owen DeLong Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning Importance: High On 16 Oct 2018, at 8:06 PM, Owen DeLong > wrote: Perhaps we should disallow election spam rather than changing the opt-in/opt-out policy for arin-discuss. Owen - You have perfect timing, as I was about to send a message to reopen this discussion... Folks - Last week, while our election was underway, I sent the following to arin-discuss: "Once this election is complete, we can then enjoy a discussion of whether any changes to our Whois terms of use (or our election processes in general) is warranted in this regard. " I will note that ARIN's 2018 election is complete - https://www.arin.net/announcements/2018/20181015.html I'd like to congratulate all of those elected, and thank everyone who ran for the ARIN Board, ARIN AC, or the NRO NC. With this election complete, it's now timely to discuss the matter of campaign emails. As many of you are aware, ARIN is required to provide the list of organizations that are eligible to vote in each election, and while we do not include email addresses in that list, each year we have several folks up for election who send emails to the electorate asking for their support. ARIN's stance on this has historically been that those people who receive the emails asking for support are in the best position to weigh the merits of each candidate and their email practices, and thus we do not specifically encourage or prohibit such communications in the election processes. Similarly, ARIN's terms of use for its ARIN Whois service does not specifically prohibit use of Whois data for election outreach purposes, and it is apparent that some candidates are using ARIN Whois to obtain related email addressed for their campaigning. It would be good to discuss ARIN's current stance on this issue, in order to inform the ARIN Board in their consideration if any change is warranted. To the end, please comment on the question: "Should ARIN's election processes prohibit bulk campaign email to the electorate, or is the present approach suitable as-is?" Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO American Registry for Internet Numbers _____ This email has been scanned for spam and viruses by Proofpoint Essentials. Click here to report this email as spam. Please ask us about Cloud Backup and Disaster Recovery services for your Windows, Linux or Legacy Systems. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication with its contents may contain confidential information. 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Hare) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 20:15:51 +0000 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning In-Reply-To: References: <0BF325AD-79B1-4F2B-803F-5DE37C878FB2@nvtinc.net> <17F17A1F7AA95D46B2A5D35941873629023645F216@SSD-Exchange.ssdis.com> <5BC4D810.3080006@raptorengineering.com> <0d5fce3f-55c d-124a-2ff2-dc 7215df66f5@quark.net> <37DFB159-192C-4D3C-A53E-CCD5925A7ECF@delong.com> <49FCADFF-96B9-4588-ACF9-AA1C6E54D74E@arin.net> <01d301d4657f$a8bfefb0$fa3fcf10$@ewart.net> <99c8f8ec5468489ab40185cb9678c205@ABT-EXCH01.Abtech.local> <8b5f13c5-d248-d33d-a3b8-d414da21e666@clearrate.com> <9d056533-eac8-abdf-0a26-c46b83c5c218@FORETHOUGHT.net> Message-ID: <1e49814692c0445780d8c5d41e7b6a2a@Boreas.jcc.com> I was not bothered by the one e-mail I received from an ARIN board candidate. I didn't read it carefully, but I wasn't bothered by it. Perhaps the stream of messages about ARIN election spam should be preserved and forwarded to future candidates with a suggestion that they consider the potential responses before sending e-mails to potential voters. I did read the candidate bios before I voted and thought each of candidates were well qualified. The bigger question is how to convince eligible voters to actually pay attention to the ARIN elections and vote. I don't have an answer for that question. Keith From: ARIN-discuss [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Patrick Laughton Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 4:08 PM To: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning Jawaid, https://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-announce/2018-October/002272.html , FWIW. Patrick From: ARIN-discuss > On Behalf Of Jawaid Bazyar Sent: October 16, 2018 14:03 To: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning How about send an email with short bios of candidates, and links to pages with more info. And have same on the ARIN web site. On 10/16/2018 01:57 PM, Patrick Laughton wrote: I skimmed the candidate profiles right after voting opened, but hadn't gotten around to voting until after the controversy started. To be honest, I was dead set to vote against any candidate who emailed me when I got back to it, but damned if they weren't well-qualified and seemed like a right choice, other than mildly irking me with an unsolicited email. Patrick From: ARIN-discuss On Behalf Of Paul Timmins Sent: October 16, 2018 13:48 To: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning I'm in favor of making the voting contacts available to the campaigns, with an opt out for those who are truly bothered. I would appreciate hearing from candidates, it might actually motivate me to research them and actually cast a vote. Whatever we have now doesn't reach me usefully and I'd basically be picking candidates based on name familiarity and coin flips otherwise. Might even be more effective than leaving voicemails on my cell phone to vote for people I've never heard of. -Paul On 10/16/2018 03:13 PM, Robby Wright wrote: Maybe giving each candidate a single email blast to present themselves would reduce the mess. Then restrict all other campaign usage. The campaign materials could be combined into a smaller number of emails. I have to admit it would be nice to know who I am voting for. Robby Wright Chief Architect and Consultant Abtech Technologies, Inc. 760-827-5141 From: ARIN-discuss On Behalf Of Rick Ewart Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 11:37 AM To: John Curran ; Owen DeLong Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning Hi All. Seems to me that just doing a prohibition on using the mailing list for campaigning purposes would solve the direct issue. As to Whois information and such, my 2 cents is that there is no real need to touch/attack that. That information is public info that doesn't have an opt-in/opt-out process and thus is no different than if some company looked it up to spam someone for any reason. If a candidate feels it would help them (some might say it would hurt them), then so be it. But then again, I wasn't upset to begin with so..... :P Take care, Rick Rick Ewart, CPA, CISSP, CAMS Ewart Technologies, Inc. 15751 Sheridan St, #160 Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33331 rick at ewart.net From: ARIN-discuss [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of John Curran Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 2:24 PM To: Owen DeLong Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning Importance: High On 16 Oct 2018, at 8:06 PM, Owen DeLong > wrote: Perhaps we should disallow election spam rather than changing the opt-in/opt-out policy for arin-discuss. Owen - You have perfect timing, as I was about to send a message to reopen this discussion... Folks - Last week, while our election was underway, I sent the following to arin-discuss: "Once this election is complete, we can then enjoy a discussion of whether any changes to our Whois terms of use (or our election processes in general) is warranted in this regard. " I will note that ARIN's 2018 election is complete - https://www.arin.net/announcements/2018/20181015.html I'd like to congratulate all of those elected, and thank everyone who ran for the ARIN Board, ARIN AC, or the NRO NC. With this election complete, it's now timely to discuss the matter of campaign emails. As many of you are aware, ARIN is required to provide the list of organizations that are eligible to vote in each election, and while we do not include email addresses in that list, each year we have several folks up for election who send emails to the electorate asking for their support. ARIN's stance on this has historically been that those people who receive the emails asking for support are in the best position to weigh the merits of each candidate and their email practices, and thus we do not specifically encourage or prohibit such communications in the election processes. Similarly, ARIN's terms of use for its ARIN Whois service does not specifically prohibit use of Whois data for election outreach purposes, and it is apparent that some candidates are using ARIN Whois to obtain related email addressed for their campaigning. It would be good to discuss ARIN's current stance on this issue, in order to inform the ARIN Board in their consideration if any change is warranted. To the end, please comment on the question: "Should ARIN's election processes prohibit bulk campaign email to the electorate, or is the present approach suitable as-is?" Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO American Registry for Internet Numbers ________________________________ This email has been scanned for spam and viruses by Proofpoint Essentials. Click here to report this email as spam. Please ask us about Cloud Backup and Disaster Recovery services for your Windows, Linux or Legacy Systems. 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Hare wrote: > Perhaps the stream of messages about ARIN election spam should be preserved and forwarded to future candidates with a suggestion that they consider the potential responses before sending e-mails to potential voters. Yes! That?s the best thing I?ve seen out of this. ?Think twice before you spam, for it will be multiplied a thousandfold in unsubscribes!" -Bill From owen at delong.com Tue Oct 16 17:42:47 2018 From: owen at delong.com (Owen DeLong) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:42:47 -0700 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss In-Reply-To: References: <440B3A76-B4A3-41BE-83B1-A7F254D1ABE0@arin.net> <003a01d464a9$e108fbe0$a31af3a0$@com> <0BF325AD-79B1-4F2B-803F-5DE37C878FB2@nvtinc.net> <17F17A1F7AA95D46B2A5D35941873629023645F216@SSD-Exchange.ssdis.com> <5BC4D810.3080006@raptorengineering.com> <0d5fce3f-55cd-124a-2ff2-dc7215df66f5@quark.net> <37DFB159-192C-4D3C-A53E-CCD5925A7ECF@delong.com> Message-ID: Well, currently, it?s not against ARIN election policy, so arguably there isn?t any abuse. I?d like to see that policy changed so that it is considered abuse. In fact, I?d like to see it become disqualifying for candidates to spamvertise their candidacy. Owen > On Oct 16, 2018, at 11:26 , Michael H Lambert wrote: > >> On 16 Oct 2018, at 14:06, Owen DeLong wrote: >> >> It seems to me that arin-discuss is generally low volume as well. Once a year, we get a flurry of emails about election spam. >> >> Perhaps we should disallow election spam rather than changing the opt-in/opt-out policy for arin-discuss. > > I think you have a good point, Owen. At the very least, complaints should go to abuse@, not arin-discuss at . > > Michael > > ----- > Michael H Lambert, GigaPoP Manager Phone: +1 412 268-4960 > Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center/3ROX FAX: +1 412 268-5832 > 300 S Craig St, Pittsburgh, PA 15213 USA lambert at psc.edu > > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. From vsuarez at fusetelecom.com Tue Oct 16 17:45:05 2018 From: vsuarez at fusetelecom.com (Victor Suarez) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 21:45:05 +0000 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss In-Reply-To: References: <440B3A76-B4A3-41BE-83B1-A7F254D1ABE0@arin.net> <003a01d464a9$e108fbe0$a31af3a0$@com> <0BF325AD-79B1-4F2B-803F-5DE37C878FB2@nvtinc.net> <17F17A1F7AA95D46B2A5D35941873629023645F216@SSD-Exchange.ssdis.com> <5BC4D810.3080006@raptorengineering.com> <0d5fce3f-55cd-124a-2ff2-dc7215df66f5@quark.net> <37DFB159-192C-4D3C-A53E-CCD5925A7ECF@delong.com> , Message-ID: Please take me out of this loop. V?ctor J.Su?rez Mercado VP of Sales & Marketing Fuse Telecom, LLC. O.787 953 3873 Ext 300 F.787 957 3873 E.vsuarez at fusetelecom.com www.fusetelecom.com Connect to Grow! ________________________________ From: ARIN-discuss on behalf of Owen DeLong Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:42:47 PM To: Michael H Lambert Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss Well, currently, it?s not against ARIN election policy, so arguably there isn?t any abuse. I?d like to see that policy changed so that it is considered abuse. In fact, I?d like to see it become disqualifying for candidates to spamvertise their candidacy. Owen > On Oct 16, 2018, at 11:26 , Michael H Lambert wrote: > >> On 16 Oct 2018, at 14:06, Owen DeLong wrote: >> >> It seems to me that arin-discuss is generally low volume as well. Once a year, we get a flurry of emails about election spam. >> >> Perhaps we should disallow election spam rather than changing the opt-in/opt-out policy for arin-discuss. > > I think you have a good point, Owen. At the very least, complaints should go to abuse@, not arin-discuss at . > > Michael > > ----- > Michael H Lambert, GigaPoP Manager Phone: +1 412 268-4960 > Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center/3ROX FAX: +1 412 268-5832 > 300 S Craig St, Pittsburgh, PA 15213 USA lambert at psc.edu > > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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O.787 953 3873 Ext 300 F.787 957 3873 E.vsuarez at fusetelecom.com www.fusetelecom.com Connect to Grow! ________________________________ From: ARIN-discuss on behalf of Owen DeLong Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:42:47 PM To: Michael H Lambert Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss Well, currently, it?s not against ARIN election policy, so arguably there isn?t any abuse. I?d like to see that policy changed so that it is considered abuse. In fact, I?d like to see it become disqualifying for candidates to spamvertise their candidacy. Owen > On Oct 16, 2018, at 11:26 , Michael H Lambert wrote: > >> On 16 Oct 2018, at 14:06, Owen DeLong wrote: >> >> It seems to me that arin-discuss is generally low volume as well. Once a year, we get a flurry of emails about election spam. >> >> Perhaps we should disallow election spam rather than changing the opt-in/opt-out policy for arin-discuss. > > I think you have a good point, Owen. At the very least, complaints should go to abuse@, not arin-discuss at . > > Michael > > ----- > Michael H Lambert, GigaPoP Manager Phone: +1 412 268-4960 > Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center/3ROX FAX: +1 412 268-5832 > 300 S Craig St, Pittsburgh, PA 15213 USA lambert at psc.edu > > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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Brian Thompson Director of Electric and Telecom City of Monroe Sent from my iPhone On Oct 16, 2018, at 5:55 PM, Mike Singh > wrote: SAME HERE ________________________________ From: ARIN-discuss > on behalf of Victor Suarez > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:45:05 PM To: Owen DeLong; Michael H Lambert Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss Please take me out of this loop. V?ctor J.Su?rez Mercado VP of Sales & Marketing Fuse Telecom, LLC. O.787 953 3873 Ext 300 F.787 957 3873 E.vsuarez at fusetelecom.com www.fusetelecom.com Connect to Grow! ________________________________ From: ARIN-discuss > on behalf of Owen DeLong > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:42:47 PM To: Michael H Lambert Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss Well, currently, it?s not against ARIN election policy, so arguably there isn?t any abuse. I?d like to see that policy changed so that it is considered abuse. In fact, I?d like to see it become disqualifying for candidates to spamvertise their candidacy. Owen > On Oct 16, 2018, at 11:26 , Michael H Lambert > wrote: > >> On 16 Oct 2018, at 14:06, Owen DeLong > wrote: >> >> It seems to me that arin-discuss is generally low volume as well. Once a year, we get a flurry of emails about election spam. >> >> Perhaps we should disallow election spam rather than changing the opt-in/opt-out policy for arin-discuss. > > I think you have a good point, Owen. At the very least, complaints should go to abuse@, not arin-discuss at . > > Michael > > ----- > Michael H Lambert, GigaPoP Manager Phone: +1 412 268-4960 > Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center/3ROX FAX: +1 412 268-5832 > 300 S Craig St, Pittsburgh, PA 15213 USA lambert at psc.edu > > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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URL: From steve at rack911.com Tue Oct 16 18:01:02 2018 From: steve at rack911.com (Steven Ciaburri) Date: 16 Oct 2018 18:01:02 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss In-Reply-To: References: <0BF325AD-79B1-4F2B-803F-5DE37C878FB2@nvtinc.net> <17F17A1F7AA95D46B2A5D35941873629023645F216@SSD-Exchange.ssdis.com> <5BC4D810.3080006@raptorengineering.com> <0d5fce3f-55cd-124a-2ff2-dc7215df66f5@quark.net> <37DFB159-192C-4D3C-A53E-CCD5925A7ECF@delong.com> Message-ID: <3882ef4e-0ba5-49b9-bf85-99e80e48ce76@mtasv.net> It absolutely amazes me that all of you demanding to be removed, unsubscribed, etc are in the IT industry. Obviously you don't know how mailing lists work. Its been stated many times how to remove yourself... its even in the signature of every email.? Let me help you out, since you obviously have not seen it the countless other times: Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Just as easy to do this as it is to reply back with SAME HERE or UNSUBSCRIBE. Every time one of you ignorant people reply like... you just further the frustration for everyone. On 10/16/2018 2:53 PM, Mike Singh wrote: > > SAME HERE > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* ARIN-discuss on behalf of > Victor Suarez > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:45:05 PM > *To:* Owen DeLong; Michael H Lambert > *Cc:* arin-discuss at arin.net > *Subject:* Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss > ? > Please take me out of this loop. > > > > V?ctor J.Su?rez Mercado > VP of Sales & Marketing > Fuse Telecom, LLC. > O.787 953 3873 Ext 300 > F.787 957 3873 > E.vsuarez at fusetelecom.com > www.fusetelecom.com > Connect to Grow! > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* ARIN-discuss on behalf of Owen > DeLong > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:42:47 PM > *To:* Michael H Lambert > *Cc:* arin-discuss at arin.net > *Subject:* Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss > ? > Well, currently, it?s not against ARIN election policy, so arguably > there isn?t any abuse. > > I?d like to see that policy changed so that it is considered abuse. In > fact, I?d like to see it become disqualifying for candidates to > spamvertise their candidacy. > > Owen > > > > On Oct 16, 2018, at 11:26 , Michael H Lambert wrote: > > > >> On 16 Oct 2018, at 14:06, Owen DeLong wrote: > >> > >> It seems to me that arin-discuss is generally low volume as well. > Once a year, we get a flurry of emails about election spam. > >> > >> Perhaps we should disallow election spam rather than changing the > opt-in/opt-out policy for arin-discuss. > > > > I think you have a good point, Owen.? At the very least, complaints > should go to abuse@, not arin-discuss at . > > > > Michael > > > > ----- > > Michael H Lambert, GigaPoP Manager???????????? Phone: +1 412 268-4960 > > Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center/3ROX????????? FAX:?? +1 412 268-5832 > > 300 S Craig St, Pittsburgh, PA? 15213 USA????? lambert at psc.edu > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ARIN-Discuss > > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Personally, I?d like to see them do so, but more importantly, I?d like to see the election rules specifically prohibit email-based campaigning. Owen > On Oct 16, 2018, at 11:37 , Rick Ewart wrote: > > Hi All. > > Seems to me that just doing a prohibition on using the mailing list for campaigning purposes would solve the direct issue. > > As to Whois information and such, my 2 cents is that there is no real need to touch/attack that. That information is public info that doesn?t have an opt-in/opt-out process and thus is no different than if some company looked it up to spam someone for any reason. If a candidate feels it would help them (some might say it would hurt them), then so be it. > > But then again, I wasn?t upset to begin with so?.. :P > > Take care, > Rick > > Rick Ewart, CPA, CISSP, CAMS > Ewart Technologies, Inc. > 15751 Sheridan St, #160 > Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33331 > rick at ewart.net > > > > From: ARIN-discuss [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of John Curran > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 2:24 PM > To: Owen DeLong > Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net > Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning > Importance: High > > On 16 Oct 2018, at 8:06 PM, Owen DeLong > wrote: >> >> Perhaps we should disallow election spam rather than changing the opt-in/opt-out policy for arin-discuss. > > Owen - You have perfect timing, as I was about to send a message to reopen this discussion? > > > Folks - > > Last week, while our election was underway, I sent the following to arin-discuss: "Once this election is complete, we can then enjoy a discussion of whether any changes to our Whois terms of use (or our election processes in general) is warranted in this regard. " > > I will note that ARIN?s 2018 election is complete ? https://www.arin.net/announcements/2018/20181015.html > > I?d like to congratulate all of those elected, and thank everyone who ran for the ARIN Board, ARIN AC, or the NRO NC. > > With this election complete, it?s now timely to discuss the matter of campaign emails. As many of you are aware, ARIN is required to provide the list of organizations that are eligible to vote in each election, and while we do not include email addresses in that list, each year we have several folks up for election who send emails to the electorate asking for their support. > > ARIN?s stance on this has historically been that those people who receive the emails asking for support are in the best position to weigh the merits of each candidate and their email practices, and thus we do not specifically encourage or prohibit such communications in the election processes. Similarly, ARIN?s terms of use for its ARIN Whois service does not specifically prohibit use of Whois data for election outreach purposes, and it is apparent that some candidates are using ARIN Whois to obtain related email addressed for their campaigning. > > It would be good to discuss ARIN?s current stance on this issue, in order to inform the ARIN Board in their consideration if any change is warranted. > > To the end, please comment on the question: ?Should ARIN?s election processes prohibit bulk campaign email to the electorate, or is the present approach suitable as-is?? > > Thanks! > /John > > John Curran > President and CEO > American Registry for Internet Numbers -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cameron at komputerking.com Tue Oct 16 18:02:04 2018 From: cameron at komputerking.com (Cameron Fillers) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 15:02:04 -0700 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss In-Reply-To: References: <0BF325AD-79B1-4F2B-803F-5DE37C878FB2@nvtinc.net> <17F17A1F7AA95D46B2A5D35941873629023645F216@SSD-Exchange.ssdis.com> <5BC4D810.3080006@raptorengineering.com> <0d5fce3f-55cd-124a-2ff2-dc7215df66f5@quark.net> <37DFB159-192C-4D3C-A53E-CCD5925A7ECF@delong.com> Message-ID: <41d6d2b6-43a8-d7c4-3964-25b68afb29d6@komputerking.com> email filters are a wonderful thing On 10/16/2018 2:57 PM, Brian Thompson wrote: > Me too. > > Brian Thompson > Director of Electric and Telecom > City of Monroe > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 16, 2018, at 5:55 PM, Mike Singh > wrote: > >> SAME HERE >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* ARIN-discuss > > on behalf of Victor Suarez >> > >> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:45:05 PM >> *To:* Owen DeLong; Michael H Lambert >> *Cc:* arin-discuss at arin.net >> *Subject:* Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss >> Please take me out of this loop. >> >> >> >> V?ctor J.Su?rez Mercado >> VP of Sales & Marketing >> Fuse Telecom, LLC. >> O.787 953 3873 Ext 300 >> F.787 957 3873 >> E.vsuarez at fusetelecom.com >> www.fusetelecom.com >> Connect to Grow! >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* ARIN-discuss > > on behalf of Owen DeLong >> > >> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:42:47 PM >> *To:* Michael H Lambert >> *Cc:* arin-discuss at arin.net >> *Subject:* Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss >> Well, currently, it?s not against ARIN election policy, so arguably >> there isn?t any abuse. >> >> I?d like to see that policy changed so that it is considered abuse. >> In fact, I?d like to see it become disqualifying for candidates to >> spamvertise their candidacy. >> >> Owen >> >> >> > On Oct 16, 2018, at 11:26 , Michael H Lambert > > wrote: >> > >> >> On 16 Oct 2018, at 14:06, Owen DeLong > > wrote: >> >> >> >> It seems to me that arin-discuss is generally low volume as well. >> Once a year, we get a flurry of emails about election spam. >> >> >> >> Perhaps we should disallow election spam rather than changing the >> opt-in/opt-out policy for arin-discuss. >> > >> > I think you have a good point, Owen.? At the very least, complaints >> should go to abuse@, not arin-discuss at . >> > >> > Michael >> > >> > ----- >> > Michael H Lambert, GigaPoP Manager Phone: +1 412 268-4960 >> > Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center/3ROX FAX:?? +1 412 268-5832 >> > 300 S Craig St, Pittsburgh, PA? 15213 USA lambert at psc.edu >> >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > ARIN-Discuss >> > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net >> ). >> > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >> > Please contact info at arin.net if you >> experience any issues. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ARIN-Discuss >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net >> ). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience >> any issues. >> _______________________________________________ >> ARIN-Discuss >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net >> ). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience >> any issues. > > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 10/16/2018 3:02 PM, Cameron Fillers wrote: > > email filters are a wonderful thing > > > On 10/16/2018 2:57 PM, Brian Thompson wrote: >> Me too. >> >> Brian Thompson >> Director of Electric and Telecom >> City of Monroe >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Oct 16, 2018, at 5:55 PM, Mike Singh > > wrote: >> >>> SAME HERE >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> *From:* ARIN-discuss >> > on behalf of Victor Suarez >>> > >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:45:05 PM >>> *To:* Owen DeLong; Michael H Lambert >>> *Cc:* arin-discuss at arin.net >>> *Subject:* Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss >>> ? >>> Please take me out of this loop. >>> >>> >>> >>> V?ctor J.Su?rez Mercado >>> VP of Sales & Marketing >>> Fuse Telecom, LLC. >>> O.787 953 3873 Ext 300 >>> F.787 957 3873 >>> E.vsuarez at fusetelecom.com >>> www.fusetelecom.com >>> Connect to Grow! >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> *From:* ARIN-discuss >> > on behalf of Owen DeLong >>> > >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:42:47 PM >>> *To:* Michael H Lambert >>> *Cc:* arin-discuss at arin.net >>> *Subject:* Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss >>> ? >>> Well, currently, it?s not against ARIN election policy, so arguably >>> there isn?t any abuse. >>> >>> I?d like to see that policy changed so that it is considered abuse. >>> In fact, I?d like to see it become disqualifying for candidates to >>> spamvertise their candidacy. >>> >>> Owen >>> >>> >>> > On Oct 16, 2018, at 11:26 , Michael H Lambert >> > wrote: >>> > >>> >> On 16 Oct 2018, at 14:06, Owen DeLong >> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> It seems to me that arin-discuss is generally low volume as well. >>> Once a year, we get a flurry of emails about election spam. >>> >> >>> >> Perhaps we should disallow election spam rather than changing the >>> opt-in/opt-out policy for arin-discuss. >>> > >>> > I think you have a good point, Owen.? At the very least, >>> complaints should go to abuse@, not arin-discuss at . >>> > >>> > Michael >>> > >>> > ----- >>> > Michael H Lambert, GigaPoP Manager???????????? Phone: +1 412 268-4960 >>> > Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center/3ROX????????? FAX:?? +1 412 268-5832 >>> > 300 S Craig St, Pittsburgh, PA? 15213 USA????? lambert at psc.edu >>> >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > ARIN-Discuss >>> > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net >>> ). >>> > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>> > Please contact info at arin.net if you >>> experience any issues. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ARIN-Discuss >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net >>> ). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>> Please contact info at arin.net if you >>> experience any issues. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ARIN-Discuss >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net >>> ). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>> Please contact info at arin.net if you >>> experience any issues. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ARIN-Discuss >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmellis at ssdplus.com Tue Oct 16 18:20:09 2018 From: jmellis at ssdplus.com (Jamey Mellis) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 22:20:09 +0000 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss In-Reply-To: <3882ef4e-0ba5-49b9-bf85-99e80e48ce76@mtasv.net> References: <0BF325AD-79B1-4F2B-803F-5DE37C878FB2@nvtinc.net> <17F17A1F7AA95D46B2A5D35941873629023645F216@SSD-Exchange.ssdis.com> <5BC4D810.3080006@raptorengineering.com> <0d5fce3f-55cd-124a-2ff2-dc7215df66f5@quark.net> <37DFB159-192C-4D3C-A53E-CCD5925A7ECF@delong.com> , <3882ef4e-0ba5-49b9-bf85-99e80e48ce76@mtasv.net> Message-ID: <17F17A1F7AA95D46B2A5D3594187362902364693FB@SSD-Exchange.ssdis.com> Steven, I agree that it is easy to unsubscribe. I did unsubscribe but I am still getting the emails. I understand the process but feel that the unsubscribe process should work better. Maybe it takes 48 hoursor more to process an unsubscribe request so I will see how it goes over the next few days. I think I am just over 48 hours now. I am new to Arin so this is my first experience with this from them. I do want to be able to keep up with what is going on but maybe have a page or blog for each candidate and save this mailing list for non-political announcements. How many people do you suppose will opt out of this list because they felt they were being spammed? If this list is important as I have been reading then maybe the powers to be should reconsider what the list is used for. I think many of us are overwhelmed with emails and would like to minimize the amount of messages we get. Just my 2 cents worth. James Mellis CISSP, CISM, CEH, CSIH, PCI-ISA, PCIP Software Solutions and Designs, Inc 843-556-4720 -------- Original message -------- From: Steven Ciaburri Date: 10/16/18 6:01 PM (GMT-05:00) To: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss It absolutely amazes me that all of you demanding to be removed, unsubscribed, etc are in the IT industry. Obviously you don't know how mailing lists work. Its been stated many times how to remove yourself... its even in the signature of every email. Let me help you out, since you obviously have not seen it the countless other times: Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Just as easy to do this as it is to reply back with SAME HERE or UNSUBSCRIBE. Every time one of you ignorant people reply like... you just further the frustration for everyone. On 10/16/2018 2:53 PM, Mike Singh wrote: SAME HERE ________________________________ From: ARIN-discuss on behalf of Victor Suarez Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:45:05 PM To: Owen DeLong; Michael H Lambert Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss Please take me out of this loop. V?ctor J.Su?rez Mercado VP of Sales & Marketing Fuse Telecom, LLC. O.787 953 3873 Ext 300 F.787 957 3873 E.vsuarez at fusetelecom.com www.fusetelecom.com Connect to Grow! ________________________________ From: ARIN-discuss on behalf of Owen DeLong Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:42:47 PM To: Michael H Lambert Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss Well, currently, it?s not against ARIN election policy, so arguably there isn?t any abuse. I?d like to see that policy changed so that it is considered abuse. In fact, I?d like to see it become disqualifying for candidates to spamvertise their candidacy. Owen > On Oct 16, 2018, at 11:26 , Michael H Lambert wrote: > >> On 16 Oct 2018, at 14:06, Owen DeLong wrote: >> >> It seems to me that arin-discuss is generally low volume as well. Once a year, we get a flurry of emails about election spam. >> >> Perhaps we should disallow election spam rather than changing the opt-in/opt-out policy for arin-discuss. > > I think you have a good point, Owen. At the very least, complaints should go to abuse@, not arin-discuss at . > > Michael > > ----- > Michael H Lambert, GigaPoP Manager Phone: +1 412 268-4960 > Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center/3ROX FAX: +1 412 268-5832 > 300 S Craig St, Pittsburgh, PA 15213 USA lambert at psc.edu > > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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URL: From steve at rack911.com Tue Oct 16 18:24:54 2018 From: steve at rack911.com (Steven Ciaburri) Date: 16 Oct 2018 18:24:54 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss In-Reply-To: <17F17A1F7AA95D46B2A5D3594187362902364693FB@SSD-Exchange.ssdis.com> References: <5BC4D810.3080006@raptorengineering.com> <0d5fce3f-55cd-124a-2ff2-dc7215df66f5@quark.net> <37DFB159-192C-4D3C-A53E-CCD5925A7ECF@delong.com> <3882ef4e-0ba5-49b9-bf85-99e80e48ce76@mtasv.net> <17F17A1F7AA95D46B2A5D3594187362902364693FB@SSD-Exchange.ssdis.com> Message-ID: <0fa04717-076b-4503-a3d6-a0412a49dbe0@mtasv.net> Jamey, I think the biggest issue is people are flooding the list with demands to be removed. You said you unsubscribed but still receive emails, maybe the other people are having the same issue... I wouldn't know I have not unsubscribed. However the signature again states what to do: "Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues." There is no reason people need to keep flooding asking to be removed, all it does it piss people off and its the wrong course of action. If they follow the directions given to them, I am sure their pain will go away. I'm sure many of these people would be upset if their users failed to follow processes... yet they are evading the process themselves. On 10/16/2018 3:20 PM, Jamey Mellis wrote: > Steven, > I agree that it is easy to unsubscribe. I did unsubscribe but I am > still getting the emails. I understand the process but feel that the > unsubscribe process should work better. Maybe it takes 48 hoursor more > to process an unsubscribe request so I will see how it goes over the > next few days. I think I am just over 48 hours now.?? > > I am new to Arin so this is my first experience with this from them. I > do want to be able to keep up with what is going on but maybe have a > page or blog for each candidate and save this mailing list for > non-political announcements.? > > How many people do you suppose will opt out of this list because they > felt they were being spammed?? If this list is important as I have > been reading then maybe the powers to be should reconsider what the > list is used for. I think many of us are overwhelmed with emails and > would like to minimize the amount of messages we get.? > > Just my 2 cents worth.? > > > > James Mellis CISSP, CISM, CEH, CSIH, PCI-ISA, PCIP > > Software Solutions and Designs, Inc > 843-556-4720 > -------- Original message -------- > From: Steven Ciaburri > Date: 10/16/18 6:01 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: arin-discuss at arin.net > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss > > It absolutely amazes me that all of you demanding to be removed, > unsubscribed, etc are in the IT industry. > > Obviously you don't know how mailing lists work. > Its been stated many times how to remove yourself... its even in the > signature of every email.? > > > Let me help you out, since you obviously have not seen it the > countless other times: > > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing > list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > > Just as easy to do this as it is to reply back with SAME HERE or > UNSUBSCRIBE. Every time one of you ignorant people reply like... you just further the > frustration for everyone. > On 10/16/2018 2:53 PM, Mike Singh wrote: >> >> SAME HERE >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* ARIN-discuss on behalf of >> Victor Suarez >> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:45:05 PM >> *To:* Owen DeLong; Michael H Lambert >> *Cc:* arin-discuss at arin.net >> *Subject:* Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss >> ? >> Please take me out of this loop. >> >> >> >> V?ctor J.Su?rez Mercado >> VP of Sales & Marketing >> Fuse Telecom, LLC. >> O.787 953 3873 Ext 300 >> F.787 957 3873 >> E.vsuarez at fusetelecom.com >> www.fusetelecom.com >> Connect to Grow! >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* ARIN-discuss on behalf of >> Owen DeLong >> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:42:47 PM >> *To:* Michael H Lambert >> *Cc:* arin-discuss at arin.net >> *Subject:* Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss >> ? >> Well, currently, it?s not against ARIN election policy, so arguably >> there isn?t any abuse. >> >> I?d like to see that policy changed so that it is considered abuse. >> In fact, I?d like to see it become disqualifying for candidates to >> spamvertise their candidacy. >> >> Owen >> >> >> > On Oct 16, 2018, at 11:26 , Michael H Lambert wrote: >> > >> >> On 16 Oct 2018, at 14:06, Owen DeLong wrote: >> >> >> >> It seems to me that arin-discuss is generally low volume as well. >> Once a year, we get a flurry of emails about election spam. >> >> >> >> Perhaps we should disallow election spam rather than changing the >> opt-in/opt-out policy for arin-discuss. >> > >> > I think you have a good point, Owen.? At the very least, complaints >> should go to abuse@, not arin-discuss at . >> > >> > Michael >> > >> > ----- >> > Michael H Lambert, GigaPoP Manager???????????? Phone: +1 412 268-4960 >> > Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center/3ROX????????? FAX:?? +1 412 268-5832 >> > 300 S Craig St, Pittsburgh, PA? 15213 USA????? lambert at psc.edu >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > ARIN-Discuss >> > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >> > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >> > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ARIN-Discuss >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ARIN-Discuss >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Dave Miller Network Engineer Mozilla - http://www.mozilla.org/ On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 6:21 PM Jamey Mellis wrote: > Steven, > I agree that it is easy to unsubscribe. I did unsubscribe but I am still > getting the emails. I understand the process but feel that the unsubscribe > process should work better. Maybe it takes 48 hoursor more to process an > unsubscribe request so I will see how it goes over the next few days. I > think I am just over 48 hours now. > > I am new to Arin so this is my first experience with this from them. I do > want to be able to keep up with what is going on but maybe have a page or > blog for each candidate and save this mailing list for non-political > announcements. > > How many people do you suppose will opt out of this list because they felt > they were being spammed? If this list is important as I have been reading > then maybe the powers to be should reconsider what the list is used for. I > think many of us are overwhelmed with emails and would like to minimize the > amount of messages we get. > > Just my 2 cents worth. > > > > James Mellis CISSP, CISM, CEH, CSIH, PCI-ISA, PCIP > > Software Solutions and Designs, Inc > 843-556-4720 > -------- Original message -------- > From: Steven Ciaburri > Date: 10/16/18 6:01 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: arin-discuss at arin.net > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss > > It absolutely amazes me that all of you demanding to be removed, > unsubscribed, etc are in the IT industry. > > Obviously you don't know how mailing lists work. > Its been stated many times how to remove yourself... its even in the > signature of every email. > > > Let me help you out, since you obviously have not seen it the countless > other times: > > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing > list subscription at:https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > > Just as easy to do this as it is to reply back with SAME HERE or > UNSUBSCRIBE. Every time one of you ignorant people reply like... you just further the > frustration for everyone. > > On 10/16/2018 2:53 PM, Mike Singh wrote: > > SAME HERE > ------------------------------ > *From:* ARIN-discuss > on behalf of Victor Suarez > > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:45:05 PM > *To:* Owen DeLong; Michael H Lambert > *Cc:* arin-discuss at arin.net > *Subject:* Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss > > Please take me out of this loop. > > > > V?ctor J.Su?rez Mercado > VP of Sales & Marketing > Fuse Telecom, LLC. > O.787 953 3873 Ext 300 > F.787 957 3873 > E.vsuarez at fusetelecom.com > www.fusetelecom.com > Connect to Grow! > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* ARIN-discuss > on behalf of Owen DeLong > > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:42:47 PM > *To:* Michael H Lambert > *Cc:* arin-discuss at arin.net > *Subject:* Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss > > Well, currently, it?s not against ARIN election policy, so arguably there > isn?t any abuse. > > I?d like to see that policy changed so that it is considered abuse. In > fact, I?d like to see it become disqualifying for candidates to spamvertise > their candidacy. > > Owen > > > > On Oct 16, 2018, at 11:26 , Michael H Lambert > wrote: > > > >> On 16 Oct 2018, at 14:06, Owen DeLong > wrote: > >> > >> It seems to me that arin-discuss is generally low volume as well. Once > a year, we get a flurry of emails about election spam. > >> > >> Perhaps we should disallow election spam rather than changing the > opt-in/opt-out policy for arin-discuss. > > > > I think you have a good point, Owen. At the very least, complaints > should go to abuse@, not arin-discuss at . > > > > Michael > > > > ----- > > Michael H Lambert, GigaPoP Manager Phone: +1 412 268-4960 > > Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center/3ROX FAX: +1 412 268-5832 > > 300 S Craig St, Pittsburgh, PA 15213 USA lambert at psc.edu > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ARIN-Discuss > > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at:https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cameron at komputerking.com Tue Oct 16 18:26:50 2018 From: cameron at komputerking.com (Cameron Fillers) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 15:26:50 -0700 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss In-Reply-To: References: <5BC4D810.3080006@raptorengineering.com> <0d5fce3f-55cd-124a-2ff2-dc7215df66f5@quark.net> <37DFB159-192C-4D3C-A53E-CCD5925A7ECF@delong.com> <41d6d2b6-43a8-d7c4-3964-25b68afb29d6@komputerking.com> Message-ID: <08bebcb2-9e57-e269-e49f-48145fb7c962@komputerking.com> I was just hoping that my response might prompt them to look up how to use e-mail filters to resolve their agony, in the event that they don't want to unsubscribe. I find all this quite entertaining On 10/16/2018 3:08 PM, Steven Ciaburri wrote: > > Come on Cameron, these guys are in IT.. they should know how to handle > a bit of unwanted email. > > Instead they are incompetent and unable to follow simple instructions > how how to resolve their agony. > > It's embarrassing we are even here... these complaints are disappointing. > > On 10/16/2018 3:02 PM, Cameron Fillers wrote: >> >> email filters are a wonderful thing >> >> >> On 10/16/2018 2:57 PM, Brian Thompson wrote: >>> Me too. >>> >>> Brian Thompson >>> Director of Electric and Telecom >>> City of Monroe >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Oct 16, 2018, at 5:55 PM, Mike Singh >> > wrote: >>> >>>> SAME HERE >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> *From:* ARIN-discuss >>> > on behalf of Victor Suarez >>>> > >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:45:05 PM >>>> *To:* Owen DeLong; Michael H Lambert >>>> *Cc:* arin-discuss at arin.net >>>> *Subject:* Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss >>>> Please take me out of this loop. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> V?ctor J.Su?rez Mercado >>>> VP of Sales & Marketing >>>> Fuse Telecom, LLC. >>>> O.787 953 3873 Ext 300 >>>> F.787 957 3873 >>>> E.vsuarez at fusetelecom.com >>>> www.fusetelecom.com >>>> Connect to Grow! >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> *From:* ARIN-discuss >>> > on behalf of Owen DeLong >>>> > >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:42:47 PM >>>> *To:* Michael H Lambert >>>> *Cc:* arin-discuss at arin.net >>>> *Subject:* Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss >>>> Well, currently, it?s not against ARIN election policy, so arguably >>>> there isn?t any abuse. >>>> >>>> I?d like to see that policy changed so that it is considered abuse. >>>> In fact, I?d like to see it become disqualifying for candidates to >>>> spamvertise their candidacy. >>>> >>>> Owen >>>> >>>> >>>> > On Oct 16, 2018, at 11:26 , Michael H Lambert >>> > wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> On 16 Oct 2018, at 14:06, Owen DeLong >>> > wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> It seems to me that arin-discuss is generally low volume as >>>> well. Once a year, we get a flurry of emails about election spam. >>>> >> >>>> >> Perhaps we should disallow election spam rather than changing >>>> the opt-in/opt-out policy for arin-discuss. >>>> > >>>> > I think you have a good point, Owen.? At the very least, >>>> complaints should go to abuse@, not arin-discuss at . >>>> > >>>> > Michael >>>> > >>>> > ----- >>>> > Michael H Lambert, GigaPoP Manager???????????? Phone: +1 412 268-4960 >>>> > Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center/3ROX????????? FAX:?? +1 412 268-5832 >>>> > 300 S Craig St, Pittsburgh, PA? 15213 USA lambert at psc.edu >>>> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > ARIN-Discuss >>>> > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>>> > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net >>>> ). >>>> > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>>> > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>>> > Please contact info at arin.net if you >>>> experience any issues. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> ARIN-Discuss >>>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net >>>> ). >>>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>>> Please contact info at arin.net if you >>>> experience any issues. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> ARIN-Discuss >>>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net >>>> ). >>>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>>> Please contact info at arin.net if you >>>> experience any issues. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ARIN-Discuss >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >>> Please contactinfo at arin.net if you experience any issues. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ARIN-Discuss >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >> Please contactinfo at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mike.hammett at ics-il.com Tue Oct 16 19:00:15 2018 From: mike.hammett at ics-il.com (Mike Hammett) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 18:00:15 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning In-Reply-To: <49FCADFF-96B9-4588-ACF9-AA1C6E54D74E@arin.net> References: <5BC4D810.3080006@raptorengineering.com> <0d5fce3f-55cd-124a-2ff2-dc7215df66f5@quark.net> <37DFB159-192C-4D3C-A53E-CCD5925A7ECF@delong.com> <49FCADFF-96B9-4588-ACF9-AA1C6E54D74E@arin.net> Message-ID: <422284047.792.1539730811167.JavaMail.mhammett@ThunderFuck> No. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Curran" To: "Owen DeLong" Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 1:24:22 PM Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning On 16 Oct 2018, at 8:06 PM, Owen DeLong < owen at delong.com > wrote: Perhaps we should disallow election spam rather than changing the opt-in/opt-out policy for arin-discuss. Owen - You have perfect timing, as I was about to send a message to reopen this discussion? Folks - Last week, while our election was underway, I sent the following to arin-discuss: "Once this election is complete, we can then enjoy a discussion of whether any changes to our Whois terms of use (or our election processes in general) is warranted in this regard. " I will note that ARIN?s 2018 election is complete ? https://www.arin.net/announcements/2018/20181015.html I?d like to congratulate all of those elected, and thank everyone who ran for the ARIN Board, ARIN AC, or the NRO NC. With this election complete, it?s now timely to discuss the matter of campaign emails. As many of you are aware, ARIN is required to provide the list of organizations that are eligible to vote in each election, and while we do not include email addresses in that list, each year we have several folks up for election who send emails to the electorate asking for their support. ARIN?s stance on this has historically been that those people who receive the emails asking for support are in the best position to weigh the merits of each candidate and their email practices, and thus we do not specifically encourage or prohibit such communications in the election processes. Similarly, ARIN?s terms of use for its ARIN Whois service does not specifically prohibit use of Whois data for election outreach purposes, and it is apparent that some candidates are using ARIN Whois to obtain related email addressed for their campaigning. It would be good to discuss ARIN?s current stance on this issue, in order to inform the ARIN Board in their consideration if any change is warranted. To the end, please comment on the question: ?Should ARIN?s election processes prohibit bulk campaign email to the electorate, or is the present approach suitable as-is?? Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO American Registry for Internet Numbers _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mike.hammett at ics-il.com Tue Oct 16 19:02:46 2018 From: mike.hammett at ics-il.com (Mike Hammett) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 18:02:46 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning In-Reply-To: <99c8f8ec5468489ab40185cb9678c205@ABT-EXCH01.Abtech.local> References: <5BC4D810.3080006@raptorengineering.com> <0d5fce3f-55cd-124a-2ff2-dc7215df66f5@quark.net> <37DFB159-192C-4D3C-A53E-CCD5925A7ECF@delong.com> <49FCADFF-96B9-4588-ACF9-AA1C6E54D74E@arin.net> <01d301d4657f$a8bfefb0$fa3fcf10$@ewart.net> <99c8f8ec5468489ab40185cb9678c205@ABT-EXCH01.Abtech.local> Message-ID: <128173143.805.1539730960543.JavaMail.mhammett@ThunderFuck> Not a bad idea. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robby Wright" To: "Rick Ewart" , "John Curran" , "Owen DeLong" Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 2:13:54 PM Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning Maybe giving each candidate a single email blast to present themselves would reduce the mess. Then restrict all other campaign usage. The campaign materials could be combined into a smaller number of emails. I have to admit it would be nice to know who I am voting for. Robby Wright Chief Architect and Consultant Abtech Technologies, Inc. 760-827-5141 From: ARIN-discuss On Behalf Of Rick Ewart Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 11:37 AM To: John Curran ; Owen DeLong Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning Hi All. Seems to me that just doing a prohibition on using the mailing list for campaigning purposes would solve the direct issue. As to Whois information and such, my 2 cents is that there is no real need to touch/attack that. That information is public info that doesn?t have an opt-in/opt-out process and thus is no different than if some company looked it up to spam someone for any reason. If a candidate feels it would help them (some might say it would hurt them), then so be it. But then again, I wasn?t upset to begin with so?.. :P Take care, Rick Rick Ewart, CPA, CISSP, CAMS Ewart Technologies, Inc. 15751 Sheridan St, #160 Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33331 rick at ewart.net From: ARIN-discuss [ mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net ] On Behalf Of John Curran Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 2:24 PM To: Owen DeLong Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning Importance: High On 16 Oct 2018, at 8:06 PM, Owen DeLong < owen at delong.com > wrote: Perhaps we should disallow election spam rather than changing the opt-in/opt-out policy for arin-discuss. Owen - You have perfect timing, as I was about to send a message to reopen this discussion? Folks - Last week, while our election was underway, I sent the following to arin-discuss: "Once this election is complete, we can then enjoy a discussion of whether any changes to our Whois terms of use (or our election processes in general) is warranted in this regard. " I will note that ARIN?s 2018 election is complete ? https://www.arin.net/announcements/2018/20181015.html I?d like to congratulate all of those elected, and thank everyone who ran for the ARIN Board, ARIN AC, or the NRO NC. With this election complete, it?s now timely to discuss the matter of campaign emails. As many of you are aware, ARIN is required to provide the list of organizations that are eligible to vote in each election, and while we do not include email addresses in that list, each year we have several folks up for election who send emails to the electorate asking for their support. ARIN?s stance on this has historically been that those people who receive the emails asking for support are in the best position to weigh the merits of each candidate and their email practices, and thus we do not specifically encourage or prohibit such communications in the election processes. Similarly, ARIN?s terms of use for its ARIN Whois service does not specifically prohibit use of Whois data for election outreach purposes, and it is apparent that some candidates are using ARIN Whois to obtain related email addressed for their campaigning. It would be good to discuss ARIN?s current stance on this issue, in order to inform the ARIN Board in their consideration if any change is warranted. To the end, please comment on the question: ?Should ARIN?s election processes prohibit bulk campaign email to the electorate, or is the present approach suitable as-is?? Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO American Registry for Internet Numbers This email has been scanned for spam and viruses by Proofpoint Essentials. Click here to report this email as spam. Please ask us about Cloud Backup and Disaster Recovery services for your Windows, Linux or Legacy Systems. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication with its contents may contain confidential information. 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URL: From hannigan at gmail.com Tue Oct 16 19:12:29 2018 From: hannigan at gmail.com (Martin Hannigan) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 19:12:29 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning In-Reply-To: <422284047.792.1539730811167.JavaMail.mhammett@ThunderFuck> References: <5BC4D810.3080006@raptorengineering.com> <0d5fce3f-55cd-124a-2ff2-dc7215df66f5@quark.net> <37DFB159-192C-4D3C-A53E-CCD5925A7ECF@delong.com> <49FCADFF-96B9-4588-ACF9-AA1C6E54D74E@arin.net> <422284047.792.1539730811167.JavaMail.mhammett@ThunderFuck> Message-ID: I agree. Interesting, but Mister Curran has the convincing point. The objective could be to optimize on that. How? Ha. Thats why he gets the big bucks. Pro tip: People with bad unsubscribes? Look for local aliases. Cheers, -M< On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 19:02 Mike Hammett wrote: > No. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > > > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > > > The Brothers WISP > > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"John Curran" > *To: *"Owen DeLong" > *Cc: *arin-discuss at arin.net > *Sent: *Tuesday, October 16, 2018 1:24:22 PM > > *Subject: *[arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning > > On 16 Oct 2018, at 8:06 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: > > > Perhaps we should disallow election spam rather than changing the > opt-in/opt-out policy for arin-discuss. > > > Owen - You have perfect timing, as I was about to send a message to reopen > this discussion? > > > Folks - > > Last week, while our election was underway, I sent the following to > arin-discuss: "Once this election is complete, we can then enjoy a > discussion of whether any changes to our Whois terms of use (or our > election processes in general) is warranted in this regard. " > > I will note that ARIN?s 2018 election is complete ? > https://www.arin.net/announcements/2018/20181015.html > > I?d like to congratulate all of those elected, and thank everyone who ran > for the ARIN Board, ARIN AC, or the NRO NC. > > With this election complete, it?s now timely to discuss the matter of > campaign emails. As many of you are aware, ARIN is required to provide the > list of organizations that are eligible to vote in each election, and while > we do not include email addresses in that list, each year we have several > folks up for election who send emails to the electorate asking for their > support. > > ARIN?s stance on this has historically been that those people who receive > the emails asking for support are in the best position to weigh the merits > of each candidate and their email practices, and thus we do not > specifically encourage or prohibit such communications in the election > processes. Similarly, ARIN?s terms of use for its ARIN Whois service does > not specifically prohibit use of Whois data for election outreach purposes, > and it is apparent that some candidates are using ARIN Whois to obtain > related email addressed for their campaigning. > > It would be good to discuss ARIN?s current stance on this issue, in order > to inform the ARIN Board in their consideration if any change is warranted. > > > To the end, please comment on the question: ?Should ARIN?s election > processes prohibit bulk campaign email to the electorate, or is the > present approach suitable as-is?? > > Thanks! > /John > > John Curran > President and CEO > American Registry for Internet Numbers > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: ARIN-discuss [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Cameron Fillers Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 6:27 PM To: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss I was just hoping that my response might prompt them to look up how to use e-mail filters to resolve their agony, in the event that they don't want to unsubscribe. I find all this quite entertaining On 10/16/2018 3:08 PM, Steven Ciaburri wrote: Come on Cameron, these guys are in IT.. they should know how to handle a bit of unwanted email. Instead they are incompetent and unable to follow simple instructions how how to resolve their agony. It's embarrassing we are even here... these complaints are disappointing. On 10/16/2018 3:02 PM, Cameron Fillers wrote: email filters are a wonderful thing On 10/16/2018 2:57 PM, Brian Thompson wrote: Me too. Brian Thompson Director of Electric and Telecom City of Monroe Sent from my iPhone On Oct 16, 2018, at 5:55 PM, Mike Singh > wrote: SAME HERE ________________________________ From: ARIN-discuss > on behalf of Victor Suarez > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:45:05 PM To: Owen DeLong; Michael H Lambert Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss Please take me out of this loop. V?ctor J.Su?rez Mercado VP of Sales & Marketing Fuse Telecom, LLC. O.787 953 3873 Ext 300 F.787 957 3873 E.vsuarez at fusetelecom.com www.fusetelecom.com Connect to Grow! ________________________________ From: ARIN-discuss > on behalf of Owen DeLong > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:42:47 PM To: Michael H Lambert Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss Well, currently, it?s not against ARIN election policy, so arguably there isn?t any abuse. I?d like to see that policy changed so that it is considered abuse. In fact, I?d like to see it become disqualifying for candidates to spamvertise their candidacy. Owen > On Oct 16, 2018, at 11:26 , Michael H Lambert > wrote: > >> On 16 Oct 2018, at 14:06, Owen DeLong > wrote: >> >> It seems to me that arin-discuss is generally low volume as well. Once a year, we get a flurry of emails about election spam. >> >> Perhaps we should disallow election spam rather than changing the opt-in/opt-out policy for arin-discuss. > > I think you have a good point, Owen. At the very least, complaints should go to abuse@, not arin-discuss at . > > Michael > > ----- > Michael H Lambert, GigaPoP Manager Phone: +1 412 268-4960 > Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center/3ROX FAX: +1 412 268-5832 > 300 S Craig St, Pittsburgh, PA 15213 USA lambert at psc.edu > > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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Lyon) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 19:51:44 -0500 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss In-Reply-To: <0C2F23CD232689449EDD9FD2EDBD3AC23589D4DC@NUMEXMBP02.na.imtn.com> References: <5BC4D810.3080006@raptorengineering.com> <0d5fce3f-55cd-124a-2ff2-dc7215df66f5@quark.net> <37DFB159-192C-4D3C-A53E-CCD5925A7ECF@delong.com> <41d6d2b6-43a8-d7c4-3964-25b68afb29d6@komputerking.com> <08bebcb2-9e57-e269-e49f-48145fb7c962@komputerking.com> <0C2F23CD232689449EDD9FD2EDBD3AC23589D4DC@NUMEXMBP02.na.imtn.com> Message-ID: <9BE89BF4-8A3D-4710-BF1A-63C48C7FB344@nfldwifi.net> Unsubscribe Nathaniel B. Lyon | Founder, President NorthfieldWiFi | www.northfieldwifi.com 1403 Heritage Drive, Suite A | Northfield, MN 55057 (612) 991-4260 ext. 6 | nate.lyon at nfldwifi.net > On Oct 16, 2018, at 7:48 PM, Ajjarapu, John wrote: > > Thanks ? Good info?. I created a filter. > > From: ARIN-discuss [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Cameron Fillers > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 6:27 PM > To: arin-discuss at arin.net > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss > > I was just hoping that my response might prompt them to look up how to use e-mail filters to resolve their agony, in the event that they don't want to unsubscribe. I find all this quite entertaining > > > On 10/16/2018 3:08 PM, Steven Ciaburri wrote: > Come on Cameron, these guys are in IT.. they should know how to handle a bit of unwanted email. > > Instead they are incompetent and unable to follow simple instructions how how to resolve their agony. > > It's embarrassing we are even here... these complaints are disappointing. > > On 10/16/2018 3:02 PM, Cameron Fillers wrote: > email filters are a wonderful thing > > > On 10/16/2018 2:57 PM, Brian Thompson wrote: > Me too. > > Brian Thompson > Director of Electric and Telecom > City of Monroe > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 16, 2018, at 5:55 PM, Mike Singh wrote: > > SAME HERE > From: ARIN-discuss on behalf of Victor Suarez > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:45:05 PM > To: Owen DeLong; Michael H Lambert > Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss > > Please take me out of this loop. > > > > V?ctor J.Su?rez Mercado > VP of Sales & Marketing > Fuse Telecom, LLC. > O.787 953 3873 Ext 300 > F.787 957 3873 > E.vsuarez at fusetelecom.com > www.fusetelecom.com > Connect to Grow! > > > From: ARIN-discuss on behalf of Owen DeLong > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:42:47 PM > To: Michael H Lambert > Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss > > Well, currently, it?s not against ARIN election policy, so arguably there isn?t any abuse. > > I?d like to see that policy changed so that it is considered abuse. In fact, I?d like to see it become disqualifying for candidates to spamvertise their candidacy. > > Owen > > > > On Oct 16, 2018, at 11:26 , Michael H Lambert wrote: > > > >> On 16 Oct 2018, at 14:06, Owen DeLong wrote: > >> > >> It seems to me that arin-discuss is generally low volume as well. Once a year, we get a flurry of emails about election spam. > >> > >> Perhaps we should disallow election spam rather than changing the opt-in/opt-out policy for arin-discuss. > > > > I think you have a good point, Owen. 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URL: From anw at artfiles.de Wed Oct 17 03:39:46 2018 From: anw at artfiles.de (Andreas Worbs) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 09:39:46 +0200 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning In-Reply-To: <49FCADFF-96B9-4588-ACF9-AA1C6E54D74E@arin.net> References: <440B3A76-B4A3-41BE-83B1-A7F254D1ABE0@arin.net> <003a01d464a9$e108fbe0$a31af3a0$@com> <0BF325AD-79B1-4F2B-803F-5DE37C878FB2@nvtinc.net> <17F17A1F7AA95D46B2A5D35941873629023645F216@SSD-Exchange.ssdis.com> <5BC4D810.3080006@raptorengineering.com> <0d5fce3f-55cd-124a-2ff2-dc7215df66f5@quark.net> <37DFB159-192C-4D3C-A53E-CCD5925A7ECF@delong.com> <49FCADFF-96B9-4588-ACF9-AA1C6E54D74E@arin.net> Message-ID: I'm in favor to prohibit this sort of campaign. I think it's better to have a ARIN campaign site where each candidate can introduce himself and ARIN will send an official mail with the link to this site and all further campaign discussion in arindiscuss will be prohibited. Perhaps another mailinglist arin-election or something like that makes sense for these guys who wants to discuss about the election and the candidates Am 16.10.18 um 20:24 schrieb John Curran: > To the end, please comment on the question: ??Should ARIN?s election > processes prohibit bulk campaign email ?to the electorate, or is the > present approach suitable as-is?? > > Thanks! > /John > > John Curran > President and CEO > American Registry for Internet Numbers -- With best regards Artfiles New Media GmbH Andreas Worbs Artfiles New Media GmbH | Zirkusweg 1 | 20359 Hamburg Tel: 040 - 32 02 72 90 | Fax: 040 - 32 02 72 95 E-Mail: support at artfiles.de | Web: http://www.artfiles.de Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Harald Oltmanns | Tim Evers Eingetragen im Handelsregister Hamburg - HRB 81478 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Next, as has been repeatedly stated, this is a group of people representing themselves a d their organizations that are forming policy and are themselves or are working for what are also legally establishments that can help block or even ignore but still log these issues or chose to take public or legal actions as they see fit.? As such, it is not ARIN'S job to try to protect or enable in any special ways any candidate that has access to the same information legally obtained as any other candidate being voted on.? To remove the right of a candidate to potentially make a serious ethical mistake that may keep them from office would be a mistake.? The annoyance of these types of unsolicited or even potentially illegally impersonating communications does not and should not force ARIN's hand in becoming essentially an authority over the governments they operate under and with creating for them legal precedent they could use to avoid being held liable for and even possibly criminally prosecuted their similar actions.? Although to some extent ARIN may look like it's image is being harmed in this situation if it has not and is not breaking any laws regarding privacy it would be wise I think to push the responsibility of forming and obeying existing laws back to the governments ARIN operates under and only with if it does not usurp their authority. Ryan -------- Original message --------From: Andreas Worbs Date: 10/17/18 12:39 AM (GMT-08:00) To: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning I'm in favor to prohibit this sort of campaign. I think it's better to have a ARIN campaign site where each candidate can introduce himself and ARIN will send an official mail with the link to this site and all further campaign discussion in arindiscuss will be prohibited. Perhaps another mailinglist arin-election or something like that makes sense for these guys who wants to discuss about the election and the candidates Am 16.10.18 um 20:24 schrieb John Curran: > To the end, please comment on the question: ??Should ARIN?s election > processes prohibit bulk campaign email ?to the electorate, or is the > present approach suitable as-is?? > > Thanks! > /John > > John Curran > President and CEO > American Registry for Internet Numbers -- With best regards Artfiles New Media GmbH Andreas Worbs Artfiles New Media GmbH | Zirkusweg 1 | 20359 Hamburg Tel: 040 - 32 02 72 90 | Fax: 040 - 32 02 72 95 E-Mail: support at artfiles.de | Web: http://www.artfiles.de Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Harald Oltmanns | Tim Evers Eingetragen im Handelsregister Hamburg - HRB 81478 _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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URL: From mike.hammett at ics-il.com Wed Oct 17 07:43:01 2018 From: mike.hammett at ics-il.com (Mike Hammett) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 06:43:01 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning In-Reply-To: <20181017102251.BDA71105E3E1@smtp1.arin.net> References: <20181017102251.BDA71105E3E1@smtp1.arin.net> Message-ID: <1074022494.1129.1539776580669.JavaMail.mhammett@ThunderFuck> I think the people opposed to candidate e-mails need to get over themselves. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Root" To: "Andreas Worbs" , arin-discuss at arin.net Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 5:23:21 AM Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning My answer is I believe a brief if perhaps still a little long. The very act of choosing to or not to send unsolicited communications regarding candidating during a voting season clearly let's people make personal and organizational decisions about the candidates and their ethical priorities. Next, as has been repeatedly stated, this is a group of people representing themselves a d their organizations that are forming policy and are themselves or are working for what are also legally establishments that can help block or even ignore but still log these issues or chose to take public or legal actions as they see fit. As such, it is not ARIN'S job to try to protect or enable in any special ways any candidate that has access to the same information legally obtained as any other candidate being voted on. To remove the right of a candidate to potentially make a serious ethical mistake that may keep them from office would be a mistake. The annoyance of these types of unsolicited or even potentially illegally impersonating communications does not and should not force ARIN's hand in becoming essentially an authority over the governments they operate under and with creating for them legal precedent they could use to avoid being held liable for and even possibly criminally prosecuted their similar actions. Although to some extent ARIN may look like it's image is being harmed in this situation if it has not and is not breaking any laws regarding privacy it would be wise I think to push the responsibility of forming and obeying existing laws back to the governments ARIN operates under and only with if it does not usurp their authority. Ryan -------- Original message -------- From: Andreas Worbs Date: 10/17/18 12:39 AM (GMT-08:00) To: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning I'm in favor to prohibit this sort of campaign. I think it's better to have a ARIN campaign site where each candidate can introduce himself and ARIN will send an official mail with the link to this site and all further campaign discussion in arindiscuss will be prohibited. Perhaps another mailinglist arin-election or something like that makes sense for these guys who wants to discuss about the election and the candidates Am 16.10.18 um 20:24 schrieb John Curran: > To the end, please comment on the question: ?Should ARIN?s election > processes prohibit bulk campaign email to the electorate, or is the > present approach suitable as-is?? > > Thanks! > /John > > John Curran > President and CEO > American Registry for Internet Numbers -- With best regards Artfiles New Media GmbH Andreas Worbs Artfiles New Media GmbH | Zirkusweg 1 | 20359 Hamburg Tel: 040 - 32 02 72 90 | Fax: 040 - 32 02 72 95 E-Mail: support at artfiles.de | Web: http://www.artfiles.de Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Harald Oltmanns | Tim Evers Eingetragen im Handelsregister Hamburg - HRB 81478 _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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URL: From dcorbe at hammerfiber.com Sat Oct 20 14:26:00 2018 From: dcorbe at hammerfiber.com (Daniel Corbe) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 14:26:00 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning In-Reply-To: <1074022494.1129.1539776580669.JavaMail.mhammett@ThunderFuck> (Mike Hammett's message of "Wed, 17 Oct 2018 06:43:01 -0500 (CDT)") References: <20181017102251.BDA71105E3E1@smtp1.arin.net> <1074022494.1129.1539776580669.JavaMail.mhammett@ThunderFuck> Message-ID: <87sh105vbb.fsf@hammerfiber.com> Well, if you want to be rude about it, sure. I guess the rest of us suck for not wanting to deal with unsolicited advertisements and the ensuing 100+ E-mail chain that resulted. Most of which was simply requests to be removed from the mailing list. Enjoy your spam all you like, but leave the rest of us alone. Mike Hammett writes: > I think the people opposed to candidate e-mails need to get over themselves. > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > [fbicon][google][linked][twitte] > Midwest Internet Exchange > [fbicon][linked][twitte] > The Brothers WISP > [fbicon][youtub] > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > From: "Ryan Root" > To: "Andreas Worbs" , arin-discuss at arin.net > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 5:23:21 AM > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning > > My answer is I believe a brief if perhaps still a little long. The very act of choosing to or not to send unsolicited > communications regarding candidating during a voting season clearly let's people make personal and organizational decisions > about the candidates and their ethical priorities. Next, as has been repeatedly stated, this is a group of people representing > themselves a d their organizations that are forming policy and are themselves or are working for what are also legally > establishments that can help block or even ignore but still log these issues or chose to take public or legal actions as they > see fit. As such, it is not ARIN'S job to try to protect or enable in any special ways any candidate that has access to the > same information legally obtained as any other candidate being voted on. To remove the right of a candidate to potentially > make a serious ethical mistake that may keep them from office would be a mistake. The annoyance of these types of unsolicited > or even potentially illegally impersonating communications does not and should not force ARIN's hand in becoming essentially an > authority over the governments they operate under and with creating for them legal precedent they could use to avoid being held > liable for and even possibly criminally prosecuted their similar actions. Although to some extent ARIN may look like it's > image is being harmed in this situation if it has not and is not breaking any laws regarding privacy it would be wise I think > to push the responsibility of forming and obeying existing laws back to the governments ARIN operates under and only with if it > does not usurp their authority. > > Ryan > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Andreas Worbs > Date: 10/17/18 12:39 AM (GMT-08:00) > To: arin-discuss at arin.net > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning > > I'm in favor to prohibit this sort of campaign. I think it's better to > have a ARIN campaign site where each candidate can introduce himself and > ARIN will send an official mail with the link to this site and all > further campaign discussion in arindiscuss will be prohibited. Perhaps > another mailinglist arin-election or something like that makes sense for > these guys who wants to discuss about the election and the candidates > > Am 16.10.18 um 20:24 schrieb John Curran: >> To the end, please comment on the question: ?Should ARIN?s election >> processes prohibit bulk campaign email to the electorate, or is the >> present approach suitable as-is?? >> >> Thanks! >> /John >> >> John Curran >> President and CEO >> American Registry for Internet Numbers > > -- > With best regards > > Artfiles New Media GmbH > > Andreas Worbs > > Artfiles New Media GmbH | Zirkusweg 1 | 20359 Hamburg > Tel: 040 - 32 02 72 90 | Fax: 040 - 32 02 72 95 > E-Mail: support at artfiles.de | Web: http://www.artfiles.de > Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Harald Oltmanns | Tim Evers > Eingetragen im Handelsregister Hamburg - HRB 81478 > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. From michael.zindel at libertybroadband.site Wed Oct 24 13:33:41 2018 From: michael.zindel at libertybroadband.site (Michael Zindel) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 11:33:41 -0600 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning In-Reply-To: <87sh105vbb.fsf@hammerfiber.com> References: <20181017102251.BDA71105E3E1@smtp1.arin.net> <1074022494.1129.1539776580669.JavaMail.mhammett@ThunderFuck> <87sh105vbb.fsf@hammerfiber.com> Message-ID: No unsolicited advertisement took place. This chain originated from an ethical question provided by an ARIN member about candidates using email information to contact members directly. It's as relevant to ARIN and its function as it really gets. You might as well be complaining about someone asking on a Ford shareholder mailing list if Ford executives using Ford records to contact Ford shareholders while campaigning for the Ford BoD is ethically acceptable. If you don't like participating in the ARIN community through this mailing list, take the steps provided by ARIN staff to remove yourself from it. On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 12:28 PM Daniel Corbe wrote: > > Well, if you want to be rude about it, sure. I guess the rest of us > suck for not wanting to deal with unsolicited advertisements and the > ensuing 100+ E-mail chain that resulted. Most of which was simply > requests to be removed from the mailing list. > > Enjoy your spam all you like, but leave the rest of us alone. > > Mike Hammett writes: > > > I think the people opposed to candidate e-mails need to get over > themselves. > > > > ----- > > Mike Hammett > > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > [fbicon][google][linked][twitte] > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > [fbicon][linked][twitte] > > The Brothers WISP > > [fbicon][youtub] > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From: "Ryan Root" > > To: "Andreas Worbs" , arin-discuss at arin.net > > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 5:23:21 AM > > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning > > > > My answer is I believe a brief if perhaps still a little long. The very > act of choosing to or not to send unsolicited > > communications regarding candidating during a voting season clearly > let's people make personal and organizational decisions > > about the candidates and their ethical priorities. Next, as has been > repeatedly stated, this is a group of people representing > > themselves a d their organizations that are forming policy and are > themselves or are working for what are also legally > > establishments that can help block or even ignore but still log these > issues or chose to take public or legal actions as they > > see fit. As such, it is not ARIN'S job to try to protect or enable in > any special ways any candidate that has access to the > > same information legally obtained as any other candidate being voted > on. To remove the right of a candidate to potentially > > make a serious ethical mistake that may keep them from office would be a > mistake. The annoyance of these types of unsolicited > > or even potentially illegally impersonating communications does not and > should not force ARIN's hand in becoming essentially an > > authority over the governments they operate under and with creating for > them legal precedent they could use to avoid being held > > liable for and even possibly criminally prosecuted their similar > actions. Although to some extent ARIN may look like it's > > image is being harmed in this situation if it has not and is not > breaking any laws regarding privacy it would be wise I think > > to push the responsibility of forming and obeying existing laws back to > the governments ARIN operates under and only with if it > > does not usurp their authority. > > > > Ryan > > > > -------- Original message -------- > > From: Andreas Worbs > > Date: 10/17/18 12:39 AM (GMT-08:00) > > To: arin-discuss at arin.net > > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning > > > > I'm in favor to prohibit this sort of campaign. I think it's better to > > have a ARIN campaign site where each candidate can introduce himself and > > ARIN will send an official mail with the link to this site and all > > further campaign discussion in arindiscuss will be prohibited. Perhaps > > another mailinglist arin-election or something like that makes sense for > > these guys who wants to discuss about the election and the candidates > > > > Am 16.10.18 um 20:24 schrieb John Curran: > >> To the end, please comment on the question: ?Should ARIN?s election > >> processes prohibit bulk campaign email to the electorate, or is the > >> present approach suitable as-is?? > >> > >> Thanks! > >> /John > >> > >> John Curran > >> President and CEO > >> American Registry for Internet Numbers > > > > -- > > With best regards > > > > Artfiles New Media GmbH > > > > Andreas Worbs > > > > Artfiles New Media GmbH | Zirkusweg 1 | 20359 Hamburg > > Tel: 040 - 32 02 72 90 | Fax: 040 - 32 02 72 95 > > E-Mail: support at artfiles.de | Web: http://www.artfiles.de > > Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Harald Oltmanns | Tim Evers > > Eingetragen im Handelsregister Hamburg - HRB 81478 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ARIN-Discuss > > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ARIN-Discuss > > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ARIN-Discuss > > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > -- Michael Zindel // CEO | Liberty Broadband O: 385.626.0096 | E: michael.zindel at libertybroadband.site -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From owen at delong.com Wed Oct 24 17:16:24 2018 From: owen at delong.com (Owen DeLong) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 14:16:24 -0700 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning In-Reply-To: References: <20181017102251.BDA71105E3E1@smtp1.arin.net> <1074022494.1129.1539776580669.JavaMail.mhammett@ThunderFuck> <87sh105vbb.fsf@hammerfiber.com> Message-ID: <8B8882C1-C8FE-4446-8A40-0B9C8AFDE36F@delong.com> The candidate in question sent several unsolicited advertisements to people about his candidacy. The ensuing 100+ Email chain was mostly legitimate (modulo the misdirected unsubscribe requests), but the original candidate emails that prompted this email chain were, in fact, unsolicited advertisements. Owen > On Oct 24, 2018, at 10:33 , Michael Zindel wrote: > > No unsolicited advertisement took place. This chain originated from an ethical question provided by an ARIN member about candidates using email information to contact members directly. It's as relevant to ARIN and its function as it really gets. You might as well be complaining about someone asking on a Ford shareholder mailing list if Ford executives using Ford records to contact Ford shareholders while campaigning for the Ford BoD is ethically acceptable. If you don't like participating in the ARIN community through this mailing list, take the steps provided by ARIN staff to remove yourself from it. > > On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 12:28 PM Daniel Corbe > wrote: > > Well, if you want to be rude about it, sure. I guess the rest of us > suck for not wanting to deal with unsolicited advertisements and the > ensuing 100+ E-mail chain that resulted. Most of which was simply > requests to be removed from the mailing list. > > Enjoy your spam all you like, but leave the rest of us alone. > > Mike Hammett > writes: > > > I think the people opposed to candidate e-mails need to get over themselves. > > > > ----- > > Mike Hammett > > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > [fbicon][google][linked][twitte] > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > [fbicon][linked][twitte] > > The Brothers WISP > > [fbicon][youtub] > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From: "Ryan Root" > > > To: "Andreas Worbs" >, arin-discuss at arin.net > > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 5:23:21 AM > > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning > > > > My answer is I believe a brief if perhaps still a little long. The very act of choosing to or not to send unsolicited > > communications regarding candidating during a voting season clearly let's people make personal and organizational decisions > > about the candidates and their ethical priorities. Next, as has been repeatedly stated, this is a group of people representing > > themselves a d their organizations that are forming policy and are themselves or are working for what are also legally > > establishments that can help block or even ignore but still log these issues or chose to take public or legal actions as they > > see fit. As such, it is not ARIN'S job to try to protect or enable in any special ways any candidate that has access to the > > same information legally obtained as any other candidate being voted on. To remove the right of a candidate to potentially > > make a serious ethical mistake that may keep them from office would be a mistake. The annoyance of these types of unsolicited > > or even potentially illegally impersonating communications does not and should not force ARIN's hand in becoming essentially an > > authority over the governments they operate under and with creating for them legal precedent they could use to avoid being held > > liable for and even possibly criminally prosecuted their similar actions. Although to some extent ARIN may look like it's > > image is being harmed in this situation if it has not and is not breaking any laws regarding privacy it would be wise I think > > to push the responsibility of forming and obeying existing laws back to the governments ARIN operates under and only with if it > > does not usurp their authority. > > > > Ryan > > > > -------- Original message -------- > > From: Andreas Worbs > > > Date: 10/17/18 12:39 AM (GMT-08:00) > > To: arin-discuss at arin.net > > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning > > > > I'm in favor to prohibit this sort of campaign. I think it's better to > > have a ARIN campaign site where each candidate can introduce himself and > > ARIN will send an official mail with the link to this site and all > > further campaign discussion in arindiscuss will be prohibited. Perhaps > > another mailinglist arin-election or something like that makes sense for > > these guys who wants to discuss about the election and the candidates > > > > Am 16.10.18 um 20:24 schrieb John Curran: > >> To the end, please comment on the question: ?Should ARIN?s election > >> processes prohibit bulk campaign email to the electorate, or is the > >> present approach suitable as-is?? > >> > >> Thanks! > >> /John > >> > >> John Curran > >> President and CEO > >> American Registry for Internet Numbers > > > > -- > > With best regards > > > > Artfiles New Media GmbH > > > > Andreas Worbs > > > > Artfiles New Media GmbH | Zirkusweg 1 | 20359 Hamburg > > Tel: 040 - 32 02 72 90 | Fax: 040 - 32 02 72 95 > > E-Mail: support at artfiles.de | Web: http://www.artfiles.de > > Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Harald Oltmanns | Tim Evers > > Eingetragen im Handelsregister Hamburg - HRB 81478 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ARIN-Discuss > > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). > > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ARIN-Discuss > > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). > > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ARIN-Discuss > > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). > > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > > -- > Michael Zindel // CEO | Liberty Broadband > O: 385.626.0096 | E: michael.zindel at libertybroadband.site > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bkthompson at monroega.gov Wed Oct 24 17:25:08 2018 From: bkthompson at monroega.gov (Brian Thompson) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 21:25:08 +0000 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning In-Reply-To: <8B8882C1-C8FE-4446-8A40-0B9C8AFDE36F@delong.com> References: <20181017102251.BDA71105E3E1@smtp1.arin.net> <1074022494.1129.1539776580669.JavaMail.mhammett@ThunderFuck> <87sh105vbb.fsf@hammerfiber.com> , <8B8882C1-C8FE-4446-8A40-0B9C8AFDE36F@delong.com> Message-ID: <515EAB6F-58A7-4C82-AEAF-AB512972D156@monroega.gov> Damn, not this again. BKT Sent from my iPhone On Oct 24, 2018, at 5:18 PM, Owen DeLong > wrote: The candidate in question sent several unsolicited advertisements to people about his candidacy. The ensuing 100+ Email chain was mostly legitimate (modulo the misdirected unsubscribe requests), but the original candidate emails that prompted this email chain were, in fact, unsolicited advertisements. Owen On Oct 24, 2018, at 10:33 , Michael Zindel > wrote: No unsolicited advertisement took place. This chain originated from an ethical question provided by an ARIN member about candidates using email information to contact members directly. It's as relevant to ARIN and its function as it really gets. You might as well be complaining about someone asking on a Ford shareholder mailing list if Ford executives using Ford records to contact Ford shareholders while campaigning for the Ford BoD is ethically acceptable. If you don't like participating in the ARIN community through this mailing list, take the steps provided by ARIN staff to remove yourself from it. On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 12:28 PM Daniel Corbe > wrote: Well, if you want to be rude about it, sure. I guess the rest of us suck for not wanting to deal with unsolicited advertisements and the ensuing 100+ E-mail chain that resulted. Most of which was simply requests to be removed from the mailing list. Enjoy your spam all you like, but leave the rest of us alone. Mike Hammett > writes: > I think the people opposed to candidate e-mails need to get over themselves. > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > [fbicon][google][linked][twitte] > Midwest Internet Exchange > [fbicon][linked][twitte] > The Brothers WISP > [fbicon][youtub] > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > From: "Ryan Root" > > To: "Andreas Worbs" >, arin-discuss at arin.net > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 5:23:21 AM > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning > > My answer is I believe a brief if perhaps still a little long. The very act of choosing to or not to send unsolicited > communications regarding candidating during a voting season clearly let's people make personal and organizational decisions > about the candidates and their ethical priorities. Next, as has been repeatedly stated, this is a group of people representing > themselves a d their organizations that are forming policy and are themselves or are working for what are also legally > establishments that can help block or even ignore but still log these issues or chose to take public or legal actions as they > see fit. As such, it is not ARIN'S job to try to protect or enable in any special ways any candidate that has access to the > same information legally obtained as any other candidate being voted on. To remove the right of a candidate to potentially > make a serious ethical mistake that may keep them from office would be a mistake. The annoyance of these types of unsolicited > or even potentially illegally impersonating communications does not and should not force ARIN's hand in becoming essentially an > authority over the governments they operate under and with creating for them legal precedent they could use to avoid being held > liable for and even possibly criminally prosecuted their similar actions. Although to some extent ARIN may look like it's > image is being harmed in this situation if it has not and is not breaking any laws regarding privacy it would be wise I think > to push the responsibility of forming and obeying existing laws back to the governments ARIN operates under and only with if it > does not usurp their authority. > > Ryan > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Andreas Worbs > > Date: 10/17/18 12:39 AM (GMT-08:00) > To: arin-discuss at arin.net > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning > > I'm in favor to prohibit this sort of campaign. I think it's better to > have a ARIN campaign site where each candidate can introduce himself and > ARIN will send an official mail with the link to this site and all > further campaign discussion in arindiscuss will be prohibited. Perhaps > another mailinglist arin-election or something like that makes sense for > these guys who wants to discuss about the election and the candidates > > Am 16.10.18 um 20:24 schrieb John Curran: >> To the end, please comment on the question: ?Should ARIN?s election >> processes prohibit bulk campaign email to the electorate, or is the >> present approach suitable as-is?? >> >> Thanks! >> /John >> >> John Curran >> President and CEO >> American Registry for Internet Numbers > > -- > With best regards > > Artfiles New Media GmbH > > Andreas Worbs > > Artfiles New Media GmbH | Zirkusweg 1 | 20359 Hamburg > Tel: 040 - 32 02 72 90 | Fax: 040 - 32 02 72 95 > E-Mail: support at artfiles.de | Web: http://www.artfiles.de > Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Harald Oltmanns | Tim Evers > Eingetragen im Handelsregister Hamburg - HRB 81478 > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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