[arin-discuss] [arin-announce] Board Adopts New Fee Schedule Effective 1 July 2016
Owen DeLong
owen at delong.com
Mon Mar 14 14:08:05 EDT 2016
So I have a couple of questions…
In trying to parse the combination of the table and the text under “End Users / Assignments”,
it’s completely unclear to me what happens going forward.
Currently, I have 2 ORG IDs as an artifact of ARIN accounting irregularities. (inability to treat LRSA and RSA as a single ORG)
Some of the text seems to indicate that I have the option of no change from current billing practices.
Some of the text seems to indicate that I’m going to fee-per-ORG rather than fee-per-resource.
Some of the text seems to indicate that I can choose one or the other of these.
No mention is made of how any of this relates to LRSA with price increase limitations.
Does this mean I’m going to get double-billed?
One of my ORG-IDs relates to my LRSA (which I now regret signing even more than before).
The other one relates to my IPv6 resources.
Both are end-user.
My non-LRSA ORG-ID is currently billed $100/year and contains one resource.
My LRSA ORG-ID is currently billed $175/year and will hit $200/year in the next billing cycle (under the current scheme).
My LRSA ORG-ID has a contractual restriction of $25/year price increases.
My non-LRSA ORG-ID is subject to whatever form of pillaging the board chooses to engage in.
To further complicate the matter, my RSA resources are 3X-Small. My LRSA are 2X-Small.
So, under this new change, which outcome am I facing?
1. $200 -> $500 over the next 9 years for the LRSA ORG-ID + $250/year for the non-LRSA (and 2 votes)
2. $300 -> $500 total over the next 9 years (under the current structure my next year bill would be $200(LRSA)+$100(RSA))
3. $500/year immediately for everything
4. $300/year in perpetuity, but no membership
5. $450/year immediately ($200 LRSA + $250 RSA) and membership for the RSA resources, but not for LRSA?
The original promise made to me by multiple members of the board and ARIN staff at the time was that by signing the LRSA, the cost of my non-legacy resources and legacy resources would mean that I wasn’t effectively paying anything above the cost of the non-legacy resources so I might as well bring the legacy resources under LRSA since there was no economic penalty. Further, it would protect my total price increase to not more than $25/year.
The board chose to violate that original promise with the previous fee schedule when they decided to itemize end-users instead of having a per-ORG fee.
Now, there is the potential to restore that agreement (to some extent).
There are things about the new structure that I like:
1. Membership for end-users included in their price.
2. Fee per ORG rather than fee per resource.
3. Potentially a return to the promised slow-ramp on fees to LRSA users.
But I’d love to hear not only which of the 5 billing possibilities above (and possibly more I haven’t thought of) ARIN will consider valid and which would be rejected and why. I’d also like to know which one ARIN will default to if I don’t specify.
Thanks,
Owen
> On Mar 14, 2016, at 07:02 , ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:
>
> At their meeting on 10 December 2015, the ARIN Board of Trustees adopted a new fee schedule that will be effective 1 July 2016. The new fee schedule is the outcome of a multi-year community consultation process and includes the following changes:
>
> > Creation of four new service categories: 3X-small, 3X-large, 4X-large, and 5X-large; these are intended to further recover ARIN's costs across a broader set of service categories which more closely align with the benefits received
>
> > Realignment of the IPv6 and IPv4 resource limits for each category to provide for more cost-effective IPv6 usage
>
> > End user organizations may now choose to receive ARIN services via a Registration Services Plan (the same services and fee package provided to ISPs) – those which do so become ARIN Members (with associated voting rights in ARIN elections) as well as the capability to report reassignment information and/or provide utilization data via the Shared Whois Project (SWIP)
>
> These changes further balance overall fees so that customers receiving comparable services are paying comparable fees where feasible, and also enable a reduction in many cases to the fees for smaller ISPs.
>
> The pending fee schedule is available at:
>
> https://www.arin.net/fees/2016_fee_schedule.html
>
> ARIN has developed a tool to allow customers to view an estimate of their fees under the new schedule:
>
> https://www.arin.net/fees/calculator.html
>
> Please review the Fee Schedule FAQ page for details on the changes:
>
> https://www.arin.net/fees/faq_fee_schedule.html
>
> If you have additional questions, please contact billing at arin.net or submit a request via Ask ARIN while logged into your ARIN Online account.
>
> Regards,
>
> John Curran
> President & CEO
> American Registry for Internet Numbers
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