From info at arin.net Fri Mar 4 08:04:04 2016 From: info at arin.net (ARIN) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2016 08:04:04 -0500 Subject: [arin-discuss] Consultation on Proposed Bylaws Changes Message-ID: <56D987C4.4080602@arin.net> On 29 February 2016, the ARIN Board of Trustees proposed changes to the ARIN Bylaws. Per Article X. Section 6.b. of the Bylaws, several of these changes require community notification and consultation before they can be adopted. ARIN is conducting this community consultation to obtain feedback on the proposed set of Bylaws changes. The proposed changes include: * Improving language for appointment of a Trustee for purposes of improving overall Board diversity of skills or background * Clarifying the staggering of terms for Trustee and Advisory Council members * Modifying the Trustee removal process to make removals by the Board of Trustees subject to membership ratification * Clarifying the process for interim appointments and partial terms * Changing the processes for Bylaws changes and Articles of Incorporation changes so all changes are sent to community consultation before final adoption by the Board of Trustees. A full redline version of the proposed changes are available for review at: https://www.arin.net/about_us/corp_docs/bylaws_proposed_2016.pdf Please provide comments to arin-consult at arin.net You can subscribe to this mailing list at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-consult. This notification and consultation period will close at 5 PM EDT, 2 April 2016. Please contact us at info at arin.net if you have any questions. Regards, John Curran President & CEO American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) From owen at delong.com Mon Mar 14 14:08:05 2016 From: owen at delong.com (Owen DeLong) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 11:08:05 -0700 Subject: [arin-discuss] [arin-announce] Board Adopts New Fee Schedule Effective 1 July 2016 In-Reply-To: <56E6C469.6010104@arin.net> References: <56E6C469.6010104@arin.net> Message-ID: <0E7B20DD-761B-461E-8C90-A811B5D6F911@delong.com> So I have a couple of questions? In trying to parse the combination of the table and the text under ?End Users / Assignments?, it?s completely unclear to me what happens going forward. Currently, I have 2 ORG IDs as an artifact of ARIN accounting irregularities. (inability to treat LRSA and RSA as a single ORG) Some of the text seems to indicate that I have the option of no change from current billing practices. Some of the text seems to indicate that I?m going to fee-per-ORG rather than fee-per-resource. Some of the text seems to indicate that I can choose one or the other of these. No mention is made of how any of this relates to LRSA with price increase limitations. Does this mean I?m going to get double-billed? One of my ORG-IDs relates to my LRSA (which I now regret signing even more than before). The other one relates to my IPv6 resources. Both are end-user. My non-LRSA ORG-ID is currently billed $100/year and contains one resource. My LRSA ORG-ID is currently billed $175/year and will hit $200/year in the next billing cycle (under the current scheme). My LRSA ORG-ID has a contractual restriction of $25/year price increases. My non-LRSA ORG-ID is subject to whatever form of pillaging the board chooses to engage in. To further complicate the matter, my RSA resources are 3X-Small. My LRSA are 2X-Small. So, under this new change, which outcome am I facing? 1. $200 -> $500 over the next 9 years for the LRSA ORG-ID + $250/year for the non-LRSA (and 2 votes) 2. $300 -> $500 total over the next 9 years (under the current structure my next year bill would be $200(LRSA)+$100(RSA)) 3. $500/year immediately for everything 4. $300/year in perpetuity, but no membership 5. $450/year immediately ($200 LRSA + $250 RSA) and membership for the RSA resources, but not for LRSA? The original promise made to me by multiple members of the board and ARIN staff at the time was that by signing the LRSA, the cost of my non-legacy resources and legacy resources would mean that I wasn?t effectively paying anything above the cost of the non-legacy resources so I might as well bring the legacy resources under LRSA since there was no economic penalty. Further, it would protect my total price increase to not more than $25/year. The board chose to violate that original promise with the previous fee schedule when they decided to itemize end-users instead of having a per-ORG fee. Now, there is the potential to restore that agreement (to some extent). There are things about the new structure that I like: 1. Membership for end-users included in their price. 2. Fee per ORG rather than fee per resource. 3. Potentially a return to the promised slow-ramp on fees to LRSA users. But I?d love to hear not only which of the 5 billing possibilities above (and possibly more I haven?t thought of) ARIN will consider valid and which would be rejected and why. I?d also like to know which one ARIN will default to if I don?t specify. Thanks, Owen > On Mar 14, 2016, at 07:02 , ARIN wrote: > > At their meeting on 10 December 2015, the ARIN Board of Trustees adopted a new fee schedule that will be effective 1 July 2016. The new fee schedule is the outcome of a multi-year community consultation process and includes the following changes: > > > Creation of four new service categories: 3X-small, 3X-large, 4X-large, and 5X-large; these are intended to further recover ARIN's costs across a broader set of service categories which more closely align with the benefits received > > > Realignment of the IPv6 and IPv4 resource limits for each category to provide for more cost-effective IPv6 usage > > > End user organizations may now choose to receive ARIN services via a Registration Services Plan (the same services and fee package provided to ISPs) ? those which do so become ARIN Members (with associated voting rights in ARIN elections) as well as the capability to report reassignment information and/or provide utilization data via the Shared Whois Project (SWIP) > > These changes further balance overall fees so that customers receiving comparable services are paying comparable fees where feasible, and also enable a reduction in many cases to the fees for smaller ISPs. > > The pending fee schedule is available at: > > https://www.arin.net/fees/2016_fee_schedule.html > > ARIN has developed a tool to allow customers to view an estimate of their fees under the new schedule: > > https://www.arin.net/fees/calculator.html > > Please review the Fee Schedule FAQ page for details on the changes: > > https://www.arin.net/fees/faq_fee_schedule.html > > If you have additional questions, please contact billing at arin.net or submit a request via Ask ARIN while logged into your ARIN Online account. > > Regards, > > John Curran > President & CEO > American Registry for Internet Numbers > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Announce > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Announce Mailing List (ARIN-announce at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-announce > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. From jcurran at arin.net Mon Mar 14 15:44:10 2016 From: jcurran at arin.net (John Curran) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 19:44:10 +0000 Subject: [arin-discuss] [arin-announce] Board Adopts New Fee Schedule Effective 1 July 2016 In-Reply-To: <0E7B20DD-761B-461E-8C90-A811B5D6F911@delong.com> References: <56E6C469.6010104@arin.net> <0E7B20DD-761B-461E-8C90-A811B5D6F911@delong.com> Message-ID: On Mar 14, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Owen DeLong > wrote: So I have a couple of questions? In trying to parse the combination of the table and the text under ?End Users / Assignments?, it?s completely unclear to me what happens going forward. Owen - Thanks for posting these questions - it is a good reminder of how complicated this can be for normal folks (as opposed to the myself and the staff who deal with these matters each day.) Currently, I have 2 ORG IDs as an artifact of ARIN accounting irregularities. (inability to treat LRSA and RSA as a single ORG) It?s actually not accounting irregularities: each agreement represents a distinct relationship with ARIN - many organizations find the ability to have multiple relationships useful for various reasons (e.g. business units, different terms from older agreements, etc.) Some of the text seems to indicate that I have the option of no change from current billing practices. That is correct. If you are an end-user (or legacy holder billed as same), then you do not experience any difference as a fee schedule change (unless you opt to do so as discussed further below.) You may confirm this by running the Fee estimator for the new schedule referenced in the original announcement (available here - https://www.arin.net/fees/calculator.html) Some of the text seems to indicate that I?m going to fee-per-ORG rather than fee-per-resource. If you choose to do so, you will now be able to switch to a registration services plan (the same fee schedule used by all ISPs, and including ARIN Membership) Some of the text seems to indicate that I can choose one or the other of these. Correct - once the new fee schedule is in effect, you may indicate that you?d like to switch to a registration services plan (if you prefer such), and your billing will change accordingly. No mention is made of how any of this relates to LRSA with price increase limitations. You will be billed accordingly to each agreement you have with ARIN, as they have different terms and fees. If you consolidate, you will be billed under the single RSA that results. Does this mean I?m going to get double-billed? You will not. My non-LRSA ORG-ID is currently billed $100/year and contains one resource. My LRSA ORG-ID is currently billed $175/year and will hit $200/year in the next billing cycle (under the current scheme). Correct. The forthcoming fee schedule is regarding the new registration services fees for ISPs, whereby we shift the categories to allow more IPv6 resources in each category, as well as opening them up to end-users who prefer this type of schedule. My LRSA ORG-ID has a contractual restriction of $25/year price increases. My non-LRSA ORG-ID is subject to whatever form of pillaging the board chooses to engage in. To further complicate the matter, my RSA resources are 3X-Small. My LRSA are 2X-Small. The various sizes only matters if you switch to registrations services plan billing, and that may not make sense for those with relatively few IP address blocks and ASNs So, under this new change, which outcome am I facing? The same as you are presently paying (but per the agreement you signed, you should be aware that the LRSA fees may increase up to $25/year) There are things about the new structure that I like: 1. Membership for end-users included in their price. 2. Fee per ORG rather than fee per resource. 3. Potentially a return to the promised slow-ramp on fees to LRSA users. But I?d love to hear not only which of the 5 billing possibilities above (and possibly more I haven?t thought of) ARIN will consider valid and which would be rejected and why. I?d also like to know which one ARIN will default to if I don?t specify. As noted above, your fees do not change as a result of the new fee schedule, they will be as you noted earlier (and repeated again below - My non-LRSA ORG-ID is currently billed $100/year and contains one resource. My LRSA ORG-ID is currently billed $175/year and will hit $200/year in the next billing cycle (under the current scheme). If you wished to, you could switch to a registration services plan, and you would be at the 2X small for all resources combined at $500/year. This would also cover the registration services for all ASN that you have and would include ARIN Membership. 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URL: From owen at delong.com Mon Mar 14 15:52:43 2016 From: owen at delong.com (Owen DeLong) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 12:52:43 -0700 Subject: [arin-discuss] [arin-announce] Board Adopts New Fee Schedule Effective 1 July 2016 In-Reply-To: References: <56E6C469.6010104@arin.net> <0E7B20DD-761B-461E-8C90-A811B5D6F911@delong.com> Message-ID: <706706A3-3C41-491B-AF74-BF735740B50E@delong.com> >>> My non-LRSA ORG-ID is currently billed $100/year and contains one resource. >> >>> My LRSA ORG-ID is currently billed $175/year and will hit $200/year in the next billing cycle (under the current scheme). > > If you wished to, you could switch to a registration services plan, and you would be > at the 2X small for all resources combined at $500/year. This would also cover the > registration services for all ASN that you have and would include ARIN Membership. > Again, I don?t know if it makes sense given your total resource holdings, but it will now > be an option. > > Thanks! (and do not hesitate to ask if you have any further questions.) Going to take you up on that? Is it possible to switch to the registration services program without changing my LRSA to an RSA? Is it possible to do so without getting double-billed? Owen From jcurran at arin.net Mon Mar 14 16:22:48 2016 From: jcurran at arin.net (John Curran) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 20:22:48 +0000 Subject: [arin-discuss] [arin-announce] Board Adopts New Fee Schedule Effective 1 July 2016 In-Reply-To: <706706A3-3C41-491B-AF74-BF735740B50E@delong.com> References: <56E6C469.6010104@arin.net> <0E7B20DD-761B-461E-8C90-A811B5D6F911@delong.com> <706706A3-3C41-491B-AF74-BF735740B50E@delong.com> Message-ID: <6E606A14-B62D-4843-BE6F-5584541BD569@arin.net> On Mar 14, 2016, at 3:52 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: > >>>> My non-LRSA ORG-ID is currently billed $100/year and contains one resource. >>> >>>> My LRSA ORG-ID is currently billed $175/year and will hit $200/year in the next billing cycle (under the current scheme). >> >> If you wished to, you could switch to a registration services plan, and you would be >> at the 2X small for all resources combined at $500/year. This would also cover the >> registration services for all ASN that you have and would include ARIN Membership. >> Again, I don?t know if it makes sense given your total resource holdings, but it will now >> be an option. >> >> Thanks! (and do not hesitate to ask if you have any further questions.) > > Going to take you up on that? > > Is it possible to switch to the registration services program without changing my LRSA to an RSA? An organization with resources under an LRSA may opt to switch to registration services plan, but it would only cover the resources under that agreement. > Is it possible to do so without getting double-billed? You get billed according to the terms of each agreement you have with ARIN, based on the resources and services received. At present, you have two agreements and pay for registration services for the respective resources under each agreement. Under the present fee schedule, switching either of these to a registration services plan is unlikely to make much sense given the relatively small number of resources under each. As I previously noted, you could consolidate and then opt for a registration services plan - this would provide you one relationship with ARIN (including ARIN membership) but it would appear the total fees would be larger than you presently pay for end-user and legacy maintenance fees. Thank you for the questions ? these are quite likely to be of help to others reading as well! /John John Curran President and CEO American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) From farmer at umn.edu Mon Mar 14 17:21:22 2016 From: farmer at umn.edu (David Farmer) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 16:21:22 -0500 Subject: [arin-discuss] [ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Board Adopts New Fee Schedule Effective 1 July 2016 In-Reply-To: <6E606A14-B62D-4843-BE6F-5584541BD569@arin.net> References: <56E6C469.6010104@arin.net> <0E7B20DD-761B-461E-8C90-A811B5D6F911@delong.com> <706706A3-3C41-491B-AF74-BF735740B50E@delong.com> <6E606A14-B62D-4843-BE6F-5584541BD569@arin.net> Message-ID: <5BC2ACFF-BD03-4EC3-B070-965774B2CB0C@umn.edu> John, Would you please clarify what seems to be a $150 cap per Legacy organization per year according to the fee schedule quoted from the website below. However, when I consult the fee estimate for our legacy org ID I get a $175, maybe I'm misinterpreting what it says. So, help me understand the last sentence. Thanks --- Legacy Registration Services Agreement (LRSA) A legacy number resource is an IPv4 address or ASN that was issued by an Internet Registry (InterNIC or its predecessors) prior to ARIN's inception on 22 December 1997. Annual Annual maintenance fees are $100 for each IPv4 address block, $100 for each ASN assigned to the organization, and are billed per Organization ID. Up to a $150 limit regardless of the number of resources held under an LRSA. -- =============================================== David Farmer Email: farmer at umn.edu Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: +1-612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: +1-612-812-9952 =============================================== -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jcurran at arin.net Tue Mar 15 10:13:21 2016 From: jcurran at arin.net (John Curran) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 14:13:21 +0000 Subject: [arin-discuss] [ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Board Adopts New Fee Schedule Effective 1 July 2016 In-Reply-To: <5BC2ACFF-BD03-4EC3-B070-965774B2CB0C@umn.edu> References: <56E6C469.6010104@arin.net> <0E7B20DD-761B-461E-8C90-A811B5D6F911@delong.com> <706706A3-3C41-491B-AF74-BF735740B50E@delong.com> <6E606A14-B62D-4843-BE6F-5584541BD569@arin.net> <5BC2ACFF-BD03-4EC3-B070-965774B2CB0C@umn.edu> Message-ID: David - The fee estimator did not have the appropriate limit for legacy address holders under LRSA configured and enabled, and this has now been fixed. We?ve also clarified some of the wording the Pending Fee Schedule (although I expect more improvements in this area forthcoming, such as Bill Herrin?s suggestion to show maintainance fees in tabular form.) Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN On Mar 14, 2016, at 5:21 PM, David Farmer > wrote: John, Would you please clarify what seems to be a $150 cap per Legacy organization per year according to the fee schedule quoted from the website below. However, when I consult the fee estimate for our legacy org ID I get a $175, maybe I'm misinterpreting what it says. So, help me understand the last sentence. Thanks --- Legacy Registration Services Agreement (LRSA) A legacy number resource is an IPv4 address or ASN that was issued by an Internet Registry (InterNIC or its predecessors) prior to ARIN's inception on 22 December 1997. Annual Annual maintenance fees are $100 for each IPv4 address block, $100 for each ASN assigned to the organization, and are billed per Organization ID. Up to a $150 limit regardless of the number of resources held under an LRSA. -- =============================================== David Farmer Email: farmer at umn.edu Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: +1-612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: +1-612-812-9952 =============================================== -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dakota at deeply-digital.com Tue Mar 15 10:23:33 2016 From: dakota at deeply-digital.com (Dakota Cole) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 14:23:33 +0000 Subject: [arin-discuss] [ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Board Adopts New Fee Schedule Effective 1 July 2016 In-Reply-To: References: <56E6C469.6010104@arin.net> <0E7B20DD-761B-461E-8C90-A811B5D6F911@delong.com> <706706A3-3C41-491B-AF74-BF735740B50E@delong.com> <6E606A14-B62D-4843-BE6F-5584541BD569@arin.net> <5BC2ACFF-BD03-4EC3-B070-965774B2CB0C@umn.edu> Message-ID: <84A9FC95-48C3-453B-B867-C446ED90C2DE@deeply-digital.com> Im not sure why I?m included in this email string. Thanks [Deeply Digital] Dakota Cole dakota at deeply-digital.com / (970) 497-5801 Deeply Digital Office: (970) 249-8848 / Fax: (970) 249-8402 343 N 3rd StreetMontrose, CO 81401 www.deeply-digital.com [htmlsig.com] [htmlsig.com] On Mar 15, 2016, at 8:13 AM, John Curran > wrote: David - The fee estimator did not have the appropriate limit for legacy address holders under LRSA configured and enabled, and this has now been fixed. We?ve also clarified some of the wording the Pending Fee Schedule (although I expect more improvements in this area forthcoming, such as Bill Herrin?s suggestion to show maintainance fees in tabular form.) Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN On Mar 14, 2016, at 5:21 PM, David Farmer > wrote: John, Would you please clarify what seems to be a $150 cap per Legacy organization per year according to the fee schedule quoted from the website below. However, when I consult the fee estimate for our legacy org ID I get a $175, maybe I'm misinterpreting what it says. So, help me understand the last sentence. Thanks --- Legacy Registration Services Agreement (LRSA) A legacy number resource is an IPv4 address or ASN that was issued by an Internet Registry (InterNIC or its predecessors) prior to ARIN's inception on 22 December 1997. Annual Annual maintenance fees are $100 for each IPv4 address block, $100 for each ASN assigned to the organization, and are billed per Organization ID. Up to a $150 limit regardless of the number of resources held under an LRSA. -- =============================================== David Farmer Email: farmer at umn.edu Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: +1-612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: +1-612-812-9952 =============================================== _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Brian From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Dakota Cole Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 10:24 AM To: John Curran Cc: arin-consult at arin.net; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Board Adopts New Fee Schedule Effective 1 July 2016 Im not sure why I?m included in this email string. Thanks [https://htmlsigs.s3.amazonaws.com/logos/files/000/350/826/landscape/DeeplyDigital-Logo-300x947.png] Dakota Cole dakota at deeply-digital.com / (970) 497-5801 Deeply Digital Office: (970) 249-8848 / Fax: (970) 249-8402 343 N 3rd StreetMontrose, CO 81401 www.deeply-digital.com [https://htmlsigs.s3.amazonaws.com/banners/files/000/075/370/medium/EmailSig-RemoteHelp700x97.png] [https://htmlsigs.s3.amazonaws.com/banners/files/000/075/385/medium/EmailSig-facebook34x35.png] On Mar 15, 2016, at 8:13 AM, John Curran > wrote: David - The fee estimator did not have the appropriate limit for legacy address holders under LRSA configured and enabled, and this has now been fixed. We?ve also clarified some of the wording the Pending Fee Schedule (although I expect more improvements in this area forthcoming, such as Bill Herrin?s suggestion to show maintainance fees in tabular form.) Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN On Mar 14, 2016, at 5:21 PM, David Farmer > wrote: John, Would you please clarify what seems to be a $150 cap per Legacy organization per year according to the fee schedule quoted from the website below. However, when I consult the fee estimate for our legacy org ID I get a $175, maybe I'm misinterpreting what it says. So, help me understand the last sentence. Thanks --- Legacy Registration Services Agreement (LRSA) A legacy number resource is an IPv4 address or ASN that was issued by an Internet Registry (InterNIC or its predecessors) prior to ARIN's inception on 22 December 1997. Annual Annual maintenance fees are $100 for each IPv4 address block, $100 for each ASN assigned to the organization, and are billed per Organization ID. 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Thanks Kasia Neclina ETIENNE Responsable Administratif et Financier / Chief Financial Officer MSR PRIVATE CABLE TV ' 0690 77.49.80 6 0590 87. 18 .62 * neclina at msrcabletv.com LOGO MSR www.msrcabletv.com From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of bmastrorilli privatelinc.com Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 6:30 AM To: Dakota Cole; John Curran Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net; arin-consult at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Board Adopts New Fee Schedule Effective 1 July 2016 Same here? Brian From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Dakota Cole Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 10:24 AM To: John Curran Cc: arin-consult at arin.net; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Board Adopts New Fee Schedule Effective 1 July 2016 Im not sure why I?m included in this email string. Thanks Image removed by sender. Deeply Digital Dakota Cole dakota at deeply-digital.com / (970) 497-5801 Deeply Digital Office: (970) 249-8848 / Fax: (970) 249-8402 343 N 3rd StreetMontrose, CO 81401 www.deeply-digital.com Image removed by sender. htmlsig.com Image removed by sender. htmlsig.com On Mar 15, 2016, at 8:13 AM, John Curran wrote: David - The fee estimator did not have the appropriate limit for legacy address holders under LRSA configured and enabled, and this has now been fixed. We?ve also clarified some of the wording the Pending Fee Schedule (although I expect more improvements in this area forthcoming, such as Bill Herrin?s suggestion to show maintainance fees in tabular form.) Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN On Mar 14, 2016, at 5:21 PM, David Farmer wrote: John, Would you please clarify what seems to be a $150 cap per Legacy organization per year according to the fee schedule quoted from the website below. However, when I consult the fee estimate for our legacy org ID I get a $175, maybe I'm misinterpreting what it says. So, help me understand the last sentence. Thanks --- Legacy Registration Services Agreement (LRSA) A legacy number resource is an IPv4 address or ASN that was issued by an Internet Registry (InterNIC or its predecessors) prior to ARIN's inception on 22 December 1997. Annual Annual maintenance fees are $100 for each IPv4 address block, $100 for each ASN assigned to the organization, and are billed per Organization ID. Up to a $150 limit regardless of the number of resources held under an LRSA. -- =============================================== David Farmer Email: farmer at umn.edu Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: +1-612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: +1-612-812-9952 =============================================== _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7497 / Virus Database: 4542/11819 - Release Date: 03/15/16 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 2:45 PM, wrote: > Im not sure why I?m included in this email string. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > *Kasia Neclina ETIENNE* > > *Responsable Administratif et Financier / Chief Financial Officer* > > *MSR PRIVATE CABLE TV* > > *'** 0690 77.49.80 **6** 0590 87. 18 .62* > > **** neclina at msrcabletv.com * > > *[image: LOGO MSR]* > > *www.msrcabletv.com * > > > > > > *From:* arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto: > arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] *On Behalf Of *bmastrorilli privatelinc.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 15, 2016 6:30 AM > *To:* Dakota Cole; John Curran > *Cc:* arin-discuss at arin.net; arin-consult at arin.net > *Subject:* Re: [arin-discuss] [ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Board Adopts > New Fee Schedule Effective 1 July 2016 > > > > Same here? > > > > Brian > > > > *From:* arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto: > arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] *On Behalf Of *Dakota Cole > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 15, 2016 10:24 AM > *To:* John Curran > *Cc:* arin-consult at arin.net; arin-discuss at arin.net > *Subject:* Re: [arin-discuss] [ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Board Adopts > New Fee Schedule Effective 1 July 2016 > > > > Im not sure why I?m included in this email string. > > > > Thanks > > [image: Image removed by sender. Deeply Digital] > > > *Dakota Cole* > dakota at deeply-digital.com / (970) 497-5801 > > *Deeply Digital* > Office: (970) 249-8848 / Fax: (970) 249-8402 > 343 N 3rd StreetMontrose, CO 81401 > www.deeply-digital.com > > [image: Image removed by sender. htmlsig.com] > [image: Image removed by sender. > htmlsig.com] > > > > > > > > On Mar 15, 2016, at 8:13 AM, John Curran wrote: > > > > David - > > > > The fee estimator did not have the appropriate limit for legacy address > > holders under LRSA configured and enabled, and this has now been > > fixed. > > > > We?ve also clarified some of the wording the Pending Fee Schedule > > (although I expect more improvements in this area forthcoming, such > > as Bill Herrin?s suggestion to show maintainance fees in tabular form.) > > > > Thanks! > > /John > > > > John Curran > > President and CEO > > ARIN > > > > On Mar 14, 2016, at 5:21 PM, David Farmer wrote: > > > > John, > > > > Would you please clarify what seems to be a $150 cap per Legacy > organization per year according to the fee schedule quoted from the website > below. However, when I consult the fee estimate for our legacy org ID I > get a $175, maybe I'm misinterpreting what it says. So, help me understand > the last sentence. > > > > Thanks > > > > --- > Legacy Registration Services Agreement (LRSA) > > A legacy number resource is an IPv4 address or ASN that was issued by an > Internet Registry (InterNIC or its predecessors) prior to ARIN's inception > on 22 December 1997. > *Annual* > > Annual maintenance fees are $100 for each IPv4 address block, $100 for > each ASN assigned to the organization, and are billed per Organization > ID. Up to a $150 limit regardless of the number of resources held under an > LRSA. > > -- > > =============================================== > > David Farmer Email: farmer at umn.edu > > Office of Information Technology > > University of Minnesota > > 2218 University Ave SE Phone: +1-612-626-0815 > > Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: +1-612-812-9952 > > =============================================== > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > > > ------------------------------ > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2016.0.7497 / Virus Database: 4542/11819 - Release Date: 03/15/16 > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > -- *Christopher Hacken* *Founder / CEO* *Voab Communications* *Voab.com * *Phone: (888) 333-8099* Cell: (570) 266-8992 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of bmastrorilli privatelinc.com Sent: March 15, 2016 10:30 AM To: Dakota Cole ; John Curran Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net; arin-consult at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Board Adopts New Fee Schedule Effective 1 July 2016 Same here? Brian From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Dakota Cole Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 10:24 AM To: John Curran > Cc: arin-consult at arin.net; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Board Adopts New Fee Schedule Effective 1 July 2016 Im not sure why I?m included in this email string. Thanks [Deeply Digital] Dakota Cole dakota at deeply-digital.com / (970) 497-5801 Deeply Digital Office: (970) 249-8848 / Fax: (970) 249-8402 343 N 3rd StreetMontrose, CO 81401 www.deeply-digital.com [htmlsig.com] [htmlsig.com] On Mar 15, 2016, at 8:13 AM, John Curran > wrote: David - The fee estimator did not have the appropriate limit for legacy address holders under LRSA configured and enabled, and this has now been fixed. We?ve also clarified some of the wording the Pending Fee Schedule (although I expect more improvements in this area forthcoming, such as Bill Herrin?s suggestion to show maintainance fees in tabular form.) Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN On Mar 14, 2016, at 5:21 PM, David Farmer > wrote: John, Would you please clarify what seems to be a $150 cap per Legacy organization per year according to the fee schedule quoted from the website below. However, when I consult the fee estimate for our legacy org ID I get a $175, maybe I'm misinterpreting what it says. So, help me understand the last sentence. Thanks --- Legacy Registration Services Agreement (LRSA) A legacy number resource is an IPv4 address or ASN that was issued by an Internet Registry (InterNIC or its predecessors) prior to ARIN's inception on 22 December 1997. Annual Annual maintenance fees are $100 for each IPv4 address block, $100 for each ASN assigned to the organization, and are billed per Organization ID. Up to a $150 limit regardless of the number of resources held under an LRSA. -- =============================================== David Farmer Email: farmer at umn.edu Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: +1-612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: +1-612-812-9952 =============================================== _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Office: (440) 647-5626 x104 Cell: (440) 506-1798 Amateur call: KC8ENN http://ncwcom.com cid:image001.jpg at 01CE6752.B7A8B830 like_us_facebookSmall tweat From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Domenic Macchione Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 11:13 AM To: bmastrorilli privatelinc.com; Dakota Cole; John Curran Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net; arin-consult at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Board Adopts New Fee Schedule Effective 1 July 2016 I am not sure why I am on this email string either, seems a lot of people are on it for some reason? From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of bmastrorilli privatelinc.com Sent: March 15, 2016 10:30 AM To: Dakota Cole ; John Curran Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net; arin-consult at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Board Adopts New Fee Schedule Effective 1 July 2016 Same here? Brian From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Dakota Cole Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 10:24 AM To: John Curran Cc: arin-consult at arin.net; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Board Adopts New Fee Schedule Effective 1 July 2016 Im not sure why I?m included in this email string. Thanks Deeply Digital Dakota Cole dakota at deeply-digital.com / (970) 497-5801 Deeply Digital Office: (970) 249-8848 / Fax: (970) 249-8402 343 N 3rd StreetMontrose, CO 81401 www.deeply-digital.com htmlsig.com htmlsig.com On Mar 15, 2016, at 8:13 AM, John Curran wrote: David - The fee estimator did not have the appropriate limit for legacy address holders under LRSA configured and enabled, and this has now been fixed. We?ve also clarified some of the wording the Pending Fee Schedule (although I expect more improvements in this area forthcoming, such as Bill Herrin?s suggestion to show maintainance fees in tabular form.) Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN On Mar 14, 2016, at 5:21 PM, David Farmer wrote: John, Would you please clarify what seems to be a $150 cap per Legacy organization per year according to the fee schedule quoted from the website below. However, when I consult the fee estimate for our legacy org ID I get a $175, maybe I'm misinterpreting what it says. So, help me understand the last sentence. Thanks --- Legacy Registration Services Agreement (LRSA) A legacy number resource is an IPv4 address or ASN that was issued by an Internet Registry (InterNIC or its predecessors) prior to ARIN's inception on 22 December 1997. Annual Annual maintenance fees are $100 for each IPv4 address block, $100 for each ASN assigned to the organization, and are billed per Organization ID. Up to a $150 limit regardless of the number of resources held under an LRSA. -- =============================================== David Farmer Email: farmer at umn.edu Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: +1-612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: +1-612-812-9952 =============================================== _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7496 / Virus Database: 4537/11745 - Release Date: 03/04/16 Internal Virus Database is out of date. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Spytek ITC Global Space Segment Office: +1-727-898-3835 From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Domenic Macchione Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 11:13 AM To: bmastrorilli privatelinc.com ; Dakota Cole ; John Curran Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net; arin-consult at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Board Adopts New Fee Schedule Effective 1 July 2016 I am not sure why I am on this email string either, seems a lot of people are on it for some reason? From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of bmastrorilli privatelinc.com Sent: March 15, 2016 10:30 AM To: Dakota Cole >; John Curran > Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net; arin-consult at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Board Adopts New Fee Schedule Effective 1 July 2016 Same here? Brian From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Dakota Cole Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 10:24 AM To: John Curran > Cc: arin-consult at arin.net; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Board Adopts New Fee Schedule Effective 1 July 2016 Im not sure why I?m included in this email string. Thanks [Deeply Digital] Dakota Cole dakota at deeply-digital.com / (970) 497-5801 Deeply Digital Office: (970) 249-8848 / Fax: (970) 249-8402 343 N 3rd StreetMontrose, CO 81401 www.deeply-digital.com [htmlsig.com] [htmlsig.com] On Mar 15, 2016, at 8:13 AM, John Curran > wrote: David - The fee estimator did not have the appropriate limit for legacy address holders under LRSA configured and enabled, and this has now been fixed. We?ve also clarified some of the wording the Pending Fee Schedule (although I expect more improvements in this area forthcoming, such as Bill Herrin?s suggestion to show maintainance fees in tabular form.) Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN On Mar 14, 2016, at 5:21 PM, David Farmer > wrote: John, Would you please clarify what seems to be a $150 cap per Legacy organization per year according to the fee schedule quoted from the website below. However, when I consult the fee estimate for our legacy org ID I get a $175, maybe I'm misinterpreting what it says. So, help me understand the last sentence. Thanks --- Legacy Registration Services Agreement (LRSA) A legacy number resource is an IPv4 address or ASN that was issued by an Internet Registry (InterNIC or its predecessors) prior to ARIN's inception on 22 December 1997. Annual Annual maintenance fees are $100 for each IPv4 address block, $100 for each ASN assigned to the organization, and are billed per Organization ID. Up to a $150 limit regardless of the number of resources held under an LRSA. -- =============================================== David Farmer Email: farmer at umn.edu Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: +1-612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: +1-612-812-9952 =============================================== _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tandersen at itxbb.net Tue Mar 15 11:29:51 2016 From: tandersen at itxbb.net (Thomas Andersen) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 11:29:51 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] [ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Board Adopts New Fee Schedule Effective 1 July 2016 In-Reply-To: <1bba01d17ecf$092206d0$1b661470$@com> References: <56E6C469.6010104@arin.net> <0E7B20DD-761B-461E-8C90-A811B5D6F911@delong.com> <706706A3-3C41-491B-AF74-BF735740B50E@delong.com> <6E606A14-B62D-4843-BE6F-5584541BD569@arin.net> <5BC2ACFF-BD03-4EC3-B070-965774B2CB0C@umn.edu> <84A9FC95-48C3-453B-B867-C446ED90C2DE@deeply-digital.com> <0221324B424FDF408E48728464166350BE24C8D3@EXCHANGE.owacloud.com> <1bba01d17ecf$092206d0$1b661470$@com> Message-ID: <0c1101d17ecf$8680e7e0$9382b7a0$@itxbb.net> Or don?t hit reply all and include the discussion list for email threads that aren?t intended for everyone. From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Matt Fridenstine Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 11:26 AM To: 'Domenic Macchione' ; 'bmastrorilli privatelinc.com' ; 'Dakota Cole' ; 'John Curran' Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net; arin-consult at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Board Adopts New Fee Schedule Effective 1 July 2016 Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Matt Fridenstine Network Engineer/President North Coast Wireless Communications LLC. Office: (440) 647-5626 x104 Cell: (440) 506-1798 Amateur call: KC8ENN http://ncwcom.com From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Domenic Macchione Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 11:13 AM To: bmastrorilli privatelinc.com; Dakota Cole; John Curran Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net ; arin-consult at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Board Adopts New Fee Schedule Effective 1 July 2016 I am not sure why I am on this email string either, seems a lot of people are on it for some reason? From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of bmastrorilli privatelinc.com Sent: March 15, 2016 10:30 AM To: Dakota Cole >; John Curran > Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net ; arin-consult at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Board Adopts New Fee Schedule Effective 1 July 2016 Same here? Brian From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Dakota Cole Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 10:24 AM To: John Curran > Cc: arin-consult at arin.net ; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Board Adopts New Fee Schedule Effective 1 July 2016 Im not sure why I?m included in this email string. Thanks Dakota Cole dakota at deeply-digital.com / (970) 497-5801 Deeply Digital Office: (970) 249-8848 / Fax: (970) 249-8402 343 N 3rd StreetMontrose, CO 81401 www.deeply-digital.com On Mar 15, 2016, at 8:13 AM, John Curran > wrote: David - The fee estimator did not have the appropriate limit for legacy address holders under LRSA configured and enabled, and this has now been fixed. We?ve also clarified some of the wording the Pending Fee Schedule (although I expect more improvements in this area forthcoming, such as Bill Herrin?s suggestion to show maintainance fees in tabular form.) Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN On Mar 14, 2016, at 5:21 PM, David Farmer > wrote: John, Would you please clarify what seems to be a $150 cap per Legacy organization per year according to the fee schedule quoted from the website below. However, when I consult the fee estimate for our legacy org ID I get a $175, maybe I'm misinterpreting what it says. So, help me understand the last sentence. Thanks --- Legacy Registration Services Agreement (LRSA) A legacy number resource is an IPv4 address or ASN that was issued by an Internet Registry (InterNIC or its predecessors) prior to ARIN's inception on 22 December 1997. Annual Annual maintenance fees are $100 for each IPv4 address block, $100 for each ASN assigned to the organization, and are billed per Organization ID. Up to a $150 limit regardless of the number of resources held under an LRSA. -- =============================================== David Farmer Email: farmer at umn.edu Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: +1-612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: +1-612-812-9952 =============================================== _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net ). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7496 / Virus Database: 4537/11745 - Release Date: 03/04/16 Internal Virus Database is out of date. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 8:31 AM -0700, "Thomas Andersen" wrote: Or don?t hit reply all and include the discussion list for email threads that aren?t intended for everyone. ? From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Matt Fridenstine Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 11:26 AM To: 'Domenic Macchione' ; 'bmastrorilli privatelinc.com' ; 'Dakota Cole' ; 'John Curran' Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net; arin-consult at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Board Adopts New Fee Schedule Effective 1 July 2016 ? Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss ? ? ? ? ? ? Matt Fridenstine Network Engineer/President North Coast Wireless Communications LLC. Office: (440) 647-5626 x104 Cell: (440) 506-1798 Amateur call: KC8ENN http://ncwcom.com ? From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Domenic Macchione Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 11:13 AM To: bmastrorilli privatelinc.com; Dakota Cole; John Curran Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net; arin-consult at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Board Adopts New Fee Schedule Effective 1 July 2016 ? I am not sure why I am on this email string either, seems a lot of people are on it for some reason? ? From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of bmastrorilli privatelinc.com Sent: March 15, 2016 10:30 AM To: Dakota Cole ; John Curran Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net; arin-consult at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Board Adopts New Fee Schedule Effective 1 July 2016 ? Same here? ? Brian ? From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Dakota Cole Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 10:24 AM To: John Curran Cc: arin-consult at arin.net; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Board Adopts New Fee Schedule Effective 1 July 2016 ? Im not sure why I?m included in this email string. ? Thanks Dakota Cole? dakota at deeply-digital.com?/?(970) 497-5801 Deeply Digital? Office:?(970) 249-8848?/ Fax:?(970) 249-8402? 343 N 3rd StreetMontrose, CO 81401? www.deeply-digital.com ? ? ? ? On Mar 15, 2016, at 8:13 AM, John Curran wrote: ? David -? ? ? ?The fee estimator did not have the appropriate limit for legacy address ? ?holders under LRSA configured and enabled, and this has now been? ? ?fixed. ? ? ?We?ve also clarified some of the wording the Pending Fee Schedule? ? ?(although I expect more improvements in this area forthcoming, such? ? ?as Bill Herrin?s suggestion to show maintainance fees in tabular form.) ? Thanks! /John ? John Curran President and CEO ARIN ? On Mar 14, 2016, at 5:21 PM, David Farmer wrote: ? John,? ? Would you please clarify what seems to be a $150 cap per Legacy organization per year according to the fee schedule quoted from the website below. ?However, when I consult the fee estimate for our legacy org ID I get a $175, maybe I'm misinterpreting what it says. ?So, help me understand the last sentence. ? Thanks ? ---Legacy Registration Services Agreement (LRSA)? A legacy number resource is an IPv4 address or ASN that was issued by an Internet Registry (InterNIC or its predecessors) prior to ARIN's inception on 22 December 1997.Annual Annual maintenance fees are $100 for each IPv4 address block, $100 for each ASN assigned to the organization, and are billed per Organization ID.?Up to a $150 limit regardless of the number of resources held under an LRSA. --? =============================================== David Farmer ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Email: farmer at umn.edu Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota ? ? 2218 University Ave SE ? ? ? ? Phone: +1-612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 ? Cell: +1-612-812-9952 =============================================== ? ? ? _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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Or don=E2=80=99t hit reply all and include the discussion list for = email threads that aren=E2=80=99t intended for = everyone.

 

From:<= /b> = arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] = On Behalf Of Matt Fridenstine
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, = 2016 11:26 AM
To: 'Domenic Macchione' = <domenic at rebelnetworks.net>; 'bmastrorilli privatelinc.com' = <bmastrorilli at privatelinc.com>; 'Dakota Cole' = <dakota at deeply-digital.com>; 'John Curran' = <jcurran at arin.net>
Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net; = arin-consult at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] = [ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Board Adopts New Fee Schedule Effective 1 = July 2016

 

Unsubscribe = or manage your mailing list subscription at:
http://lists= .arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss

 

 

 

 

 

 

Matt Fridenstine

Network Engineer/President

North Coast Wireless Communications = LLC.

Office: (440) 647-5626 x104

Cell: (440) 506-1798

Amateur call: KC8ENN

http://ncwcom.com

 

From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.n= et [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces= @arin.net] On Behalf Of Domenic Macchione
Sent: = Tuesday, March 15, 2016 11:13 AM
To: bmastrorilli = privatelinc.com; Dakota Cole; John Curran
Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net; arin-consult at arin.net
Sub= ject: Re: [arin-discuss] [ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Board Adopts = New Fee Schedule Effective 1 July = 2016

 

I am not sure why I am on this email string either, seems a lot of = people are on it for some reason?

 

From:<= /b> arin-discuss-bounces at arin.n= et [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces= @arin.net] On Behalf Of bmastrorilli = privatelinc.com
Sent: March 15, 2016 10:30 AM
To: = Dakota Cole <dakota at deeply-digital.com&g= t;; John Curran <jcurran at arin.net>
Cc: = arin-discuss at arin.net; arin-consult at arin.net
Sub= ject: Re: [arin-discuss] [ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Board Adopts = New Fee Schedule Effective 1 July = 2016

 

Same here?

 

Brian

 

From:<= /b> arin-discuss-bounces at arin.n= et [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces= @arin.net] On Behalf Of Dakota Cole
Sent: Tuesday, = March 15, 2016 10:24 AM
To: John Curran <jcurran at arin.net>
Cc: = arin-consult at arin.net; arin-discuss at arin.net
Sub= ject: Re: [arin-discuss] [ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Board Adopts = New Fee Schedule Effective 1 July = 2016

 

Im not sure = why I=E2=80=99m included in this email string.

 

Thanks

3D"Deeply

<= span class=3Dtxt>Dakota Cole 
dakota at deeply-digital.com / (970) 497-5801

<= span class=3Dtxt>Deeply Digital 
Office: (970) = 249-8848 / Fax: (970) = 249-8402 
343 N 3rd StreetMontrose, CO = 81401 
www.deeply-digital.com

3Dhtmlsig.com 

 

 

 

On Mar 15, 2016, at 8:13 AM, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> = wrote:

 

David - 

 

   The fee estimator did not have the = appropriate limit for legacy address

   holders under LRSA configured and = enabled, and this has now been 

   fixed.

 

   We=E2=80=99ve also clarified some of the = wording the Pending Fee Schedule 

   (although I expect more improvements in = this area forthcoming, such 

   as Bill Herrin=E2=80=99s suggestion to = show maintainance fees in tabular form.)

 

Thanks!

/John

 

John Curran

President and CEO

ARIN

 

On Mar = 14, 2016, at 5:21 PM, David Farmer <farmer at umn.edu> = wrote:

 

John, 

 

Would you please clarify what seems to be a $150 cap = per Legacy organization per year according to the fee schedule quoted = from the website below.  However, when I consult the fee estimate = for our legacy org ID I get a $175, maybe I'm misinterpreting what it = says.  So, help me understand the last = sentence.

 

Thanks

 

---

Legacy Registration Services Agreement = (LRSA) 

A legacy number resource is an IPv4 address = or ASN that was issued by an Internet Registry (InterNIC or its = predecessors) prior to ARIN's inception on 22 December = 1997.

Annual

Annual maintenance fees are $100 for each = IPv4 address block, $100 for each ASN assigned to the organization, and = are billed per Organization ID. Up to a $150 limit regardless of = the number of resources held under an = LRSA.

--  =

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David Farmer =                     =      Email: farmer at umn.edu

Office of Information = Technology

University of = Minnesota    

2218 University Ave SE         = Phone: +1-612-626-0815

Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029   Cell: = +1-612-812-9952

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From jcurran at arin.net Tue Mar 15 11:40:03 2016 From: jcurran at arin.net (John Curran) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 15:40:03 +0000 Subject: [arin-discuss] Not sure why you are receiving this? (Re: [ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Board Adopts New Fee Schedule Effective 1 July 2016) In-Reply-To: References: <56E6C469.6010104@arin.net> <0E7B20DD-761B-461E-8C90-A811B5D6F911@delong.com> <706706A3-3C41-491B-AF74-BF735740B50E@delong.com> <6E606A14-B62D-4843-BE6F-5584541BD569@arin.net> <5BC2ACFF-BD03-4EC3-B070-965774B2CB0C@umn.edu> <84A9FC95-48C3-453B-B867-C446ED90C2DE@deeply-digital.com> Message-ID: <79062DA7-69CB-475F-A9CA-9416489ACF18@arin.net> Folks - If you are receiving this email discussion, it is because you are on the ARIN-discuss mailing list. Please read the bottom of the received emails for more information, including how to unsubscribe, and/or now contact ARIN if you need assistance - ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. Please do not reply to the messages unless you intend to comment on the actual topic being discussed to ARIN member community, which is indeed several thousand in number. Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From owen at delong.com Tue Mar 15 15:13:06 2016 From: owen at delong.com (Owen DeLong) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 12:13:06 -0700 Subject: [arin-discuss] [arin-announce] Board Adopts New Fee Schedule Effective 1 July 2016 In-Reply-To: <6E606A14-B62D-4843-BE6F-5584541BD569@arin.net> References: <56E6C469.6010104@arin.net> <0E7B20DD-761B-461E-8C90-A811B5D6F911@delong.com> <706706A3-3C41-491B-AF74-BF735740B50E@delong.com> <6E606A14-B62D-4843-BE6F-5584541BD569@arin.net> Message-ID: > On Mar 14, 2016, at 13:22 , John Curran wrote: > > On Mar 14, 2016, at 3:52 PM, Owen DeLong > wrote: >> >>>>> My non-LRSA ORG-ID is currently billed $100/year and contains one resource. >>>> >>>>> My LRSA ORG-ID is currently billed $175/year and will hit $200/year in the next billing cycle (under the current scheme). >>> >>> If you wished to, you could switch to a registration services plan, and you would be >>> at the 2X small for all resources combined at $500/year. This would also cover the >>> registration services for all ASN that you have and would include ARIN Membership. >>> Again, I don?t know if it makes sense given your total resource holdings, but it will now >>> be an option. >>> >>> Thanks! (and do not hesitate to ask if you have any further questions.) >> >> Going to take you up on that? >> >> Is it possible to switch to the registration services program without changing my LRSA to an RSA? > > An organization with resources under an LRSA may opt to switch to > registration services plan, but it would only cover the resources under > that agreement. > >> Is it possible to do so without getting double-billed? > > You get billed according to the terms of each agreement you have with > ARIN, based on the resources and services received. At present, you > have two agreements and pay for registration services for the respective > resources under each agreement. Under the present fee schedule, > switching either of these to a registration services plan is unlikely to > make much sense given the relatively small number of resources under > each. As I previously noted, you could consolidate and then opt for > a registration services plan - this would provide you one relationship > with ARIN (including ARIN membership) but it would appear the total > fees would be larger than you presently pay for end-user and legacy > maintenance fees. I would love to consolidate under my LRSA, but I suspect ARIN won?t allow that. Owen > > Thank you for the questions ? these are quite likely to be of help to > others reading as well! > > /John > > John Curran > President and CEO > American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jcurran at arin.net Tue Mar 15 15:26:39 2016 From: jcurran at arin.net (John Curran) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 19:26:39 +0000 Subject: [arin-discuss] [arin-announce] Board Adopts New Fee Schedule Effective 1 July 2016 In-Reply-To: References: <56E6C469.6010104@arin.net> <0E7B20DD-761B-461E-8C90-A811B5D6F911@delong.com> <706706A3-3C41-491B-AF74-BF735740B50E@delong.com> <6E606A14-B62D-4843-BE6F-5584541BD569@arin.net>, Message-ID: <225FC923-3D8C-4CAA-BE26-8BB747574403@arin.net> On Mar 15, 2016, at 3:13 PM, Owen DeLong > wrote: On Mar 14, 2016, at 13:22 , John Curran > wrote: ... As I previously noted, you could consolidate and then opt for a registration services plan - this would provide you one relationship with ARIN (including ARIN membership) but it would appear the total fees would be larger than you presently pay for end-user and legacy maintenance fees. I would love to consolidate under my LRSA, but I suspect ARIN won't allow that. Alas, your LRSA is only applicable to resources issued to you before ARIN's formation, so that is not an option. /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mike.mazarick at virtudatacenter.com Fri Mar 25 17:47:20 2016 From: mike.mazarick at virtudatacenter.com (Mike Mazarick) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 17:47:20 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] [arin-announce] ARIN DDoS Attack Message-ID: <003201d186df$e894a620$b9bdf260$@mazarick@virtudatacenter.com> Mark, I am sure the significance of the same attack at around the same time on Friday hasn't been lost on you. Good luck!! I hope this gets resolved too like the last one did. Some type of formal Root Cause may be in order. The identified Root Cause can be wrong, but at least it signals the rest of the ARIN staff that it is being worked on, somebody takes it very seriously, and will wrestle this problem to the ground until it doesn't reappear. It is a lot to ask when you were already 120% busied out, but it will pay off in the long run. Mike Mazarick Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 4:32 PM To: arin-announce at arin.net Subject: [arin-announce] ARIN DDoS Attack Starting at 3:55 PM EDT on Friday, 25 March, a DDoS attack began against ARIN. This was and continues to be a sustained attack against our provisioning services, email, and website. We initiated our DDoS mitigation plan and are in the process of mitigating various types of attack traffic patterns. All our other public-facing services (Whois, Whois-RWS, RDAP, DNS, IRR, and RPKI repository services) are not affected by this attack and are operating normally. We will announce an all clear 24 hours after the attacks have stopped. Regards, Mark Kosters Chief Technology Officer American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) -----Original Message----- From: arin-announce-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-announce-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of ARIN Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 3:38 PM To: arin-announce at arin.net Subject: [arin-announce] ARIN DDoS Attack Starting at 1:25 PM EDT on Friday, 18 March, a DDoS attack began against ARIN. This was and continues to be a sustained attack against our provisioning services, email, and website. We initiated our DDoS mitigation plan and are in the process of mitigating various types of attack traffic patterns. All our other public-facing services (Whois, Whois-RWS, RDAP, DNS, IRR, and RPKI repository services) are not affected by this attack and are operating normally. We will announce an all clear 24 hours after the attacks have stopped. Regards, Mark Kosters Chief Technology Officer American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)