[arin-discuss] [arin-announce] Community Consultation: Future Direction for the ARIN Fee Schedule

[Martin Hannigan]

On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 8:05 PM, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
> On Oct 13, 2014, at 4:48 PM, Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> John,
>>
>> I don't know if Owen has a proposal, but I have one. My proposal is
>> that ARIN first cut its expenses by 40% and then we can talk sensibly
>> about a fee structure that the members can agree shows a reasonable
>> ROI. Right now, I don't feel that we have that return firmly
>> established and this fee structure activity is indicative.
>
> Martin -
>
>   You probably should engage with the ARIN Board of Trustees regarding
>   the activities that you do (or do not) want ARIN to undertake in the
>   process of achieving your proposed expense level. If you want to see
>   what is presently envisioned for 2015 and 2016, there are objectives
>   for each year in the ARIN Strategic Plan, which is available online:
>    <https://www.arin.net/about_us/corp_docs/stratplan.pdf>
>

The Board can do that on their own, they're grown ups. In fact, it
would be most excellent to hear from those that hope to be elected as
to what their positions are on the fee structure issue _and_ ARINs
expenses if they haven't done so already.


>   I will observe that the relative structure of the fee schedule (e.g.
>   relative fees for various address holdings, IPv4/IPv6 tradeoffs, and
>   theISP/end-user revenue mix, etc.) will still need to be considered
>   at any revenue/expense level.
>

True, but the options attractiveness changes at different levels of
funding requirements. I'd prefer to have fees structured around a
fixed approach that may somehow _limit_ the size of income e.g. at
certain member counts the fees automatically go down.  Likely, a fixed
fee for all capped at a reasonable limit and reduced as membership
grows, with changes in the formula requiring a referendum. The
alternative is to allow for competition in the RIR system. That would
like resolve many. many, problems.


Best,

-M<