[arin-discuss] [ARIN-Suggestions] New ACSP Suggestion 2014.10: CHANGES TO CANDIDATE SPEECHES
jesse at la-broadband.com
Thu Jun 5 04:58:20 EDT 2014
I’m not sure the specifics of any of this is worth rehashing. Especially on this list. From what I can tell it’s been dealt with. It was uncouth and inappropriate at minimum. To argue it has zero impact is naive. Especially in the broader context of the other discussions we’ve recently had regarding term limits and other issues related to elections. Owen, I’m not sure why you’re lashing out at folks here. Perhaps taking some deep breaths and heading to bed may be in order. Lets let things simmer down.
On Jun 5, 2014, at 1:50 AM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
> Once again, your accusation does not appear to fit the definition:
> in·flu·ence ped·dling
> nounNORTH AMERICAN
> the use of position or political influence on someone's behalf in exchange for money or favors.
> No money changed hands that I am aware of. Certainly my endorsement of Bernadette was not based on any exchange of money or favors. I asked her to run because I believed in good faith that she would be an excellent contributor to the ARIN board. I endorsed her candidacy for the same reason.
> On Jun 4, 2014, at 8:51 PM, Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com> wrote:
>> ARIN can be defined in many ways. Staff. AC. Board. Community. Etc.
>> Clearly there are people who feel that influence peddling, this is the problem being described, is an activity not conducive to the reputation of the organization. Let's not to deflect, be defensive or over think.
>> Let me restate the solution:
>>> On Jun 4, 2014, at 20:40, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
>>>> On Jun 4, 2014, at 11:05 PM, Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I highly doubt ARIN is changing results if that's your scope
>>>> Influence peddling is another matter. This is a non profit election. Not a public official election. Dishonesty falls in that scope IMHO. Dishonesty is very serious conduct.
>>> Martin -
>>> If you believe that the ARIN management has been dishonest, please raise the issue
>>> with the ARIN Board of Trustees. If you feel the Trustees or organizations are being
>>> dishonest with respect to election processes, I will note that would be a very serious
>>> matter, observing that ARIN must conduct itself in accordance with the state laws
>>> under which we are incorporated and which cover such matters. In either case, I ask
>>> that you pursue your allegations to productive conclusion if they have any basis, and
>>> spare the community otherwise.
>>> John Curran
>>> President and CEO
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