[arin-discuss] [arin-ppml] Term Limit Proposal

Tue Apr 1 16:35:30 EDT 2014

John,

Honestly I shouldn't have bothered responding to his email as it was clearly just meant to be a diversion. However:

Chris opposes it so it clearly wasn't in reference too him...
Marla brought it to the list (was on the AC 2005-2010)
Scott seconded it (is on the AC)

To my knowledge, neither Marla or Scott (or the multitude of others who have voiced support) have mentioned or given any indication of any involvement in a surreptitious ARIN coup, government or corporate espionage, foreign governmental plots, or arms for hostages plots....

I think we've pretty well exhausted this topic at this point and now are wading deep into Crazy Town. I understand the suggestion has been officially made. Mr. Curran, is there anything further ARIN needs from the membership on the matter?

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Jesse Geddis
LA Broadband

> On Apr 1, 2014, at 1:04 PM, "Sweeting, John" <john.sweeting at twcable.com> wrote:
> 
> Jesse 
> 
> Not sure who else you are referring to but Chris is not a sitting AC member. 
> 
> Thanks
> John
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 1, 2014, at 11:48 AM, "Jesse Geddis" <jesse at la-broadband.com> wrote:
> 
>> Rotflol conspiracy theories abound. Completely ignoring the fact that the two folks to broached the topic are sitting AC members...
>> 
>> Facts for thought...
>> 
>> The policy changes I want to push I submit. Note the previous fee discussion, modelling, and resultant proposal. I can't speak for anyone else but that's my current priority and has nothing to do with the AC. I've made no secret, however, about slow start and initial allocation policies for ISP's being problematic. But haven't yet proposed a change. 
>> 
>> Jesse Geddis
>> LA Broadband LLC
>> 
>> On Apr 1, 2014, at 11:13 AM, Chris Grundemann <cgrundemann at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 4:08 AM, Paul Timmins <ptimmins at clearrate.com> wrote:
>>>> > ________________________________________
>>>> > From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] on behalf of Martin Hannigan [hannigan at gmail.com]
>>>> > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 4:02 PM
>>>> > To: William Herrin
>>>> > Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net; arin-discuss at arin.net>
>>>> > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [arin-ppml] Term Limit Proposal
>>>> >
>>>> > > I would NOT support this for the board. ARIN benefits from the board's
>>>> > > continuity.
>>>> >
>>>> > If you really want change, term limit the Board and forget the AC.
>>>> 
>>>> Do people really WANT change though? I think part of what helps the community at large is the predictability of policy w/r/t number allocation.
>>>> 
>>>> A neutral entity controlling allocation uniformly per a generally stable policy provides a good regulatory environment for everyone, I'd think.
>>> 
>>> +1 
>>> 
>>> NRPM stability is a good thing for both network operators and Internet users. 
>>> 
>>> Also, needed change seems to happen in the current frame work and I see no indication that "more" change is a good thing without looking at the specific changes. Which of course leads to the question: Perhaps some of those advocating for term limits actually seek a very specific change, or set of changes, that they believe they could achieve by taking over the AC after booting out those who have repeatedly shown that they will support the entire community rather than be bowled over by special interests? Hmmm...
>>> 
>>> Food for thought,
>>> ~Chris
>>> 
>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> -Paul
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