[arin-discuss] Fwd: Re: ARIN Consultation: Changing the Voter Eligibility for ARIN Member Organizations

Mark Bayliss mark at visuallink.com
Mon Jan 21 13:48:15 EST 2013


>Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 13:21:29 -0500
>To: Dennis Fazio <Dennis.Fazio at ties.k12.mn.us>, 
>"arin-discuss at arin.net" <arin-discuss at arin.net>
>From: Mark Bayliss <mark at visuallink.com>
>Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Consultation: Changing the Voter 
>Eligibility for ARIN Member Organizations
>
>Dennis,
>
>I think you make some good points. But I think that by adding  "a 
>none of the candidates" and not an abstention vote. You would be 
>giving all that vote more power and control over the election 
>process. Currently DMR does not have a say as to who is on the 
>ballet. And this can lead to either people not voting or people 
>voting the lesser of two evils. This is not just a fault of ARIN but 
>most elections in general since the voters are not involved in the 
>candidate section process. The voters are only presented with a 
>choice between candidates selected by committee. If we added a third 
>choice for voters to be able to vote for "None of the 
>candidates"  it would provide an additional checks and balance for 
>truly democratic elections.  And If more than 51% of those who voted 
>choose "None Of The candidates" Then those candidates on the ballet 
>would not be elected and we would have to select new candidates and 
>have another election.  By adopting this process Arin would always 
>be sure that when a candidate wins an election that the majority of 
>voters agreed with the selection comities choices.
>
>      Mark Bayliss
>
>
>At 11:22 AM 1/21/2013, Dennis Fazio wrote:
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>>In my experience, 10%-15% turnout doesn't seem that bad in these 
>>types of online elections with these type of organizations. You do 
>>have 400-500 engaged organizations making policy decisions by 
>>participating, which is a pretty sizable number. It wasn't too long 
>>ago when only small handfuls of people were doing this for the 
>>thousands of Internet participants at the time.
>>
>>There is a division of role with DMR and admin/tech POCs. The POCs 
>>are operational roles, the DMR is the business/policy 
>>representative to ARIN. The POCs keep the services up to date and 
>>running; the DMR deals with the governance and policy issues.
>>
>>In most smaller organizations, the DMR and POC are likely the same 
>>person, so extending voting ability to POCs will not likely 
>>increase the voting pool that much. Making it easier to change the 
>>DMR would be helpful. Otherwise, I'll bet that the DMR often gives 
>>a trusted POC their login credentials to delegate voting in smaller 
>>organizations.
>>
>>I suspect that most organizations treat ARIN as a utility service 
>>and are not engaged enough to read through all the policy and 
>>election material. As long as the service keeps working OK, they're 
>>fine. Most of the elections are non-controversial and if we who do 
>>not know the candidates or have not heard of them, we have a hard 
>>time making choices based only on blurbs in the distributed 
>>material. An abstention vote might be nice, but that may not help 
>>much either. Abstention by not voting is easier than going through 
>>and marking a ballot.
>>
>>If there were a truly important and contested Internet governance 
>>issue and it was in the news, and folks were either seriously 
>>concerned or dissatisfied, you can be sure there will be a huge 
>>surge in DMR voting participation.
>>
>>In the meantime, keep it simple, keep the roles defined as they 
>>are, and don't worry about the participation level.
>>--
>>Dennis Fazio
>>TIES, Director of Technical Services
>>
>>
>>
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