[arin-discuss] ARIN Consultation: Changing the Voter Eligibility for ARIN Member Organizations

Mark Bayliss mark at visuallink.com
Mon Jan 21 13:21:29 EST 2013


Dennis,

I think you make some good points. But I think that by adding  "a 
none of the candidates" and not an abstention vote. You would be 
giving all that vote more power and control over the election 
process. Currently DMR does not have a say as to who is on the 
ballet. And this can lead to either people not voting or people 
voting the lesser of two evils. This is not just a fault of ARIN but 
most elections in general since the voters are not involved in the 
candidate section process. The voters are only presented with a 
choice between candidates selected by committee. If we added a third 
choice for voters to be able to vote for "None of the candidates"  it 
would provide an additional checks and balance for truly democratic 
elections.  And If more than 51% of those who voted choose "None Of 
The candidates" Then those candidates on the ballet would not be 
elected and we would have to select new candidates and have another 
election.  By adopting this process Arin would always be sure that 
when a candidate wins an election that the majority of voters agreed 
with the selection comities choices.

      Mark Bayliss


At 11:22 AM 1/21/2013, Dennis Fazio wrote:
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>In my experience, 10%-15% turnout doesn't seem that bad in these 
>types of online elections with these type of organizations. You do 
>have 400-500 engaged organizations making policy decisions by 
>participating, which is a pretty sizable number. It wasn't too long 
>ago when only small handfuls of people were doing this for the 
>thousands of Internet participants at the time.
>
>There is a division of role with DMR and admin/tech POCs. The POCs 
>are operational roles, the DMR is the business/policy representative 
>to ARIN. The POCs keep the services up to date and running; the DMR 
>deals with the governance and policy issues.
>
>In most smaller organizations, the DMR and POC are likely the same 
>person, so extending voting ability to POCs will not likely increase 
>the voting pool that much. Making it easier to change the DMR would 
>be helpful. Otherwise, I'll bet that the DMR often gives a trusted 
>POC their login credentials to delegate voting in smaller organizations.
>
>I suspect that most organizations treat ARIN as a utility service 
>and are not engaged enough to read through all the policy and 
>election material. As long as the service keeps working OK, they're 
>fine. Most of the elections are non-controversial and if we who do 
>not know the candidates or have not heard of them, we have a hard 
>time making choices based only on blurbs in the distributed 
>material. An abstention vote might be nice, but that may not help 
>much either. Abstention by not voting is easier than going through 
>and marking a ballot.
>
>If there were a truly important and contested Internet governance 
>issue and it was in the news, and folks were either seriously 
>concerned or dissatisfied, you can be sure there will be a huge 
>surge in DMR voting participation.
>
>In the meantime, keep it simple, keep the roles defined as they are, 
>and don't worry about the participation level.
>--
>Dennis Fazio
>TIES, Director of Technical Services
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