[arin-discuss] ARIN Consultation: Changing the Voter Eligibility for ARIN Member Organizations

[Dmitry Kohmanyuk]

On Jan 15, 2013, at 8:06 PM, Matthew Wilder <Matthew.Wilder at telus.com> wrote:

> I share the same concern as Owen.  Perhaps one way of recognizing the current structure and delegated power of the DMRs within active organizations is to allow votes from any POC while explicitly noting that DMR trumps if they participate.  This seems to be an easy best-of-both worlds compromise.  In other words, if the DMR is active and votes, their vote represents their OrgID.  If they don't vote, it goes to any POC who took the time to vote.
> 

I agree with Matthew on this -- "first to the poll wins" is not right.  "DMR trumps, all other POCs can run" is better, 
but why should ARIN focus on having maximum number of votes cast at expense of possible vote going awry?

Repeating Owen's point, additional management overheard of disallowing those currently non-voting POCs is a real cost.

Statistically, (big enough) random subset of voters is going to vote roughly same way of total population of voters (if independent.)

So unless there is some kind of hidden conflict between DMRs and other POCs (DMRs would rather abstain, 
 whereas POCs are eager to vote differently if only they are allowed) I do not see any benefit of this change.

My proposal:  Designating "backup DMR" if community supports it.  There should not be more than one though.  Main DMR wins.

-- dk@

> Matthew
> 
> On Tues, Jan 15, 2012 at 12:44 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:
> 
>> I oppose the change.
>> 
>> It would create ambiguity and a race condition where an organization would have to apply additional management constraints on who was a designated POC in order to prevent the possibility of vote tampering.
>> 
>> I would support allowing the admin contact to radio-button the DMR in the ARIN-ONLINE interface.
>> 
>> Owen
>> 
>> On Jan 15, 2013, at 8:08 AM, ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> ARIN is seeking feedback from its membership about changing voting 
>>> eligibility so that any ARIN web account linked to an Admin and/or 
>>> Tech POC of a Member organization may cast the ballot for the 
>>> organization's one vote in ARIN elections. This change would replace 
>>> the Designated Member Representative (DMR) role in the ARIN elections 
>>> and allow organizations to have more that one eligible voter.  There 
>>> is no change to the one vote per Organization ID rule.
>>> We are suggesting this change in order to increase participation in 
>>> ARIN elections. This change would:
>>> 
>>>   * Allow organizations to have more than one eligible voter, thereby 
>>> increasing the chances that someone would be available to cast a 
>>> ballot
>>> 
>>>   *  Eliminate the need for Members to create and update the DMR POC 
>>> with its specialized email requirements
>>> 
>>>    Note: The benefit of allowing more than one individual the ability 
>>> to cast the organization's one vote may in some cases require internal 
>>> coordination to determine who will cast the vote. If a second 
>>> individual attempts to vote, they will receive notification that their 
>>> organization has already voted and they will not be able to cast a ballot.
>>> 
>>> ARIN is seeking input from the community regarding this potential 
>>> change, including whether it would be beneficial and if made, whether 
>>> voting eligibility should be provided to Admin POCs or Admin and Tech POCs.
>>> You can read background on ARIN's existing processes of DMRs at:
>>> 
>>> https://www.arin.net/about_us/membership/dmr.html
>>> 
>>> You can read about ARIN's current Board and Advisory Council Election 
>>> voting process at:
>>> 
>>> https://www.arin.net/participate/elections/elec_procedures.html#voting
>>> 
>>> Relevant Statistics:
>>> 
>>>    89% of ARIN Members currently have a web account linked to either 
>>> their Admin or Tech POC handle.
>>> 
>>>    85%  of ARIN Members currently have a web account linked to their 
>>> Admin POC handle.
>>> 
>>>    In the 2012 elections 87% of Member organizations had a DMR that 
>>> was eligible to vote.
>>> 
>>> Please provide comments to arin-discuss at arin.net.
>>> 
>>> Discussion will close on 12 February 2013. ARIN seeks clear direction 
>>> from its members, so your feedback is important. If you have any 
>>> questions, please contact us at info at arin.net.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Communications and Member Services
>>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>>> 
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