[arin-discuss] Implementing IPv6

[Owen DeLong]

I think brute force really is the only solution to those problems. Each organization just needs to make the decision to move forward and actually do it.

Surest path to failure:
	IPv6 is a "network" issue.
	IPv6 is a "IT" problem.

Surest path to success:
	IPv6 is a major infrastructure initiative which must receive executive sponsorship at the highest
	level and which will impact every group within the organization. 

Owen
(Who has been through IPv6 rollout at several organizations and is available to help yours if you wish)

On Feb 27, 2013, at 5:07 PM, David Farmer <farmer at umn.edu> wrote:

> Jawaid,
> 
> You are correct the ISP Core and Internet facing infrastructure is the easiest part, some of us in the R&E world had that part done back in 2001 or so, and many by the mid-2000's .  The much harder part is all the edge facing infrastructure, the DSLAMs, CMTSes, CPE boxes, etc.. in the provider world and the APs, switches, load balancers, firewalls, etc... in the enterprise and data-center world and the servers and applications for all of the above.
> 
> Back in the early 2000's, after we got IPv6 turned up in the R&E backbone networks the biggest problem was host OS support, but that is mostly solved now.  While there are still issue in the edge network infrastructure above, the actual biggest problem I see is getting application owners and server operators to turn IPv6 on when its available and getting application developers to support IPv6 when its not.  And there really isn't a check list for a network operator to follow to solve that problem, I really wish there was.
> 
> I'm afraid the few people that have solved these server and application problems view the fact that they have solved them as a competitive advantage in the long-term and may not be willing to share their solutions to these complicated non-technical problems.  Or the solved them with brute force and don't want to admit that either.  :)
> 
> On 2/27/13 13:15 , Jawaid Bazyar wrote:
>> John,
>> 
>> You just ignored what I said. An ISP implementing pure IPv6 is the easy
>> part. The hard part is supporting the hundreds of millions of non-IPv6
>> devices.  Implementing requires knowledge and process for handling that.
>> Your typical IT guy is going to need help with it.
>> 
>> On 02/27/2013 11:51 AM, John Von Essen wrote:
>>> I dont know why this thread keeps going. IPv6 implementation is SO easy.
>>> 
>>> Step 1: Call your BGP peers and ask them to give you dual-stack
>>> IPv4/IPv6 and setup an IPv6 BGP session.
>>> Step 2: Configure the WAN link on your routers with dual-stack
>>> IPv4/IPv6 and assign the IPv6 address given to you by your BGP peers.
>>> Step 3: Add the BGP session info for v6
>>> Step 4: Add your v6 advertisements
>>> Step 5: Your DONE
> 
> NOT DONE this is just the ISP CORE and facing infrastructure!!!
> 
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