[arin-discuss] fee structure (was Re: IPv6 as justification for IPv4?)

Michael Tague tague at win.net
Mon Apr 22 13:08:55 EDT 2013


Regarding the legacy holders.   What is the justification for continuing the
legacy program?    Some of our IP space (I think) fits under the legacy
program.    When ARIN was organized they seemed to charge more for
registration of new IP than for what you already had:  but it was always a
hybrid.   We didn't pay anything until we registered new IP (after the
legacy) and then what we paid stayed more or less constant even though we
never got any more IP.

Are there legal limitations in what ARIN can do regarding legacy holders?
You seem to require them to sign agreements and pay something, so are you
really limited?

Can you send the same graph updated for legacy holders?


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On Apr 20, 2013, at 11:57 PM, Jesse D. Geddis <jesse at la-broadband.com>

> John,
> 	I will confer with some of the posters off list and work towards a 
> consensus. If you could please clarify the aggregate sizes though I 
> would appreciate it. It is my understanding that several providers 
> hold greater than a /8 in total holdings. I think my question may have 
> been poorly worded when I asked about allocations. I should have asked 
> about range in total holdings by any single provider.

As requested - please find attached a histogram of total IPv4 ISP address
holdings.  These are resources covered by standard RSA; as discussed, we
omitted legacy registrations not under any agreement and legacy resources
under LRSA as it is not apparent that they would be valid to consider in
your proposal for alternative fee structures.

Please let me know if this addresses your question or if any additional
information is needed.


John Curran
President and CEO

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