[arin-discuss] IPv6 as justification for IPv4?

[Jesse D. Geddis]

John,

It sounds overly complex to me anyway. Is there any way ARIN can generate a fee model like the one randy suggested where the following happens:

We take ARINs current operating budget of $15mil
Rounding to the largest  allocated aggregate is there a way to generate a break down for organisations allocations so we can figure out what that fee structure would look like?

Randy's suggestion was the fee doubling for every aggregate an ISP gains. I think this is a very interesting idea. I dot have the data to do the math, however.

It seems like it should start at /22 for ipv4 and /36 for ipv6? I believe those are the current minimum allocations most use today. 


Jesse Geddis
LA Broadband LLC

On Apr 16, 2013, at 11:46 AM, "John Curran" <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:

> David -
> 
> No, there is not, and such is unlikely to be prepared 
> (at least by ARIN) as each region needs to consider 
> its fees and services independently  and focused on
> on the needs of its community.  Feel free to research
> structures as you see fit, but discussion of actual fees
> in other regions should not be a germane consideration
> in ARIN fee discussions.
> 
> Thanks,
> /John
> 
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> ARIN
> 
> On Apr 16, 2013, at 12:31 PM, David Farmer <farmer at umn.edu> wrote:
> 
>> On 4/16/13 10:02 , John Curran wrote:
>> 
>>> While it is very important that each region establish its own fees based
>>> on its services and requirements, there is nothing wrong with comparing
>>> the structural aspects of other regions schedules as examples of possible
>>> frameworks to consider...
>> 
>> John,
>> 
>> Is there anything like the NRO "RIR Comparative Policy Overview" available that summarizes and compares the other differences of the RIRs like fee structure, administrative structure, and membership structure as well?
>> 
>> With a quick search I couldn't find anything, but I remember Geoff Huston summarizing the APNIC fee model as based one logarithmic function a while back.  I find the Comparative Policy Overview very useful from time to time, but it only covers policy, sometimes it would be useful to compare and contrast the RIRs based on other issues as well.
>> 
>> Maybe simply adding a non-policy section to the current Comparative Policy Overview would be the easiest and most helpful thing.  This isn't necessarily out of scope for the Comparative Policy Overview, because policy is subtly effected by these other issues occasionally.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
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