[arin-discuss] tweak to proposed fee schedule

David Farmer farmer at umn.edu
Thu Apr 11 16:36:28 EDT 2013

I wouldn't say regrets, but that we want to allow people to have a 
smaller block with a smaller fee if that work for their business 
situation.  With current policy and with ARIN-2013-3 every ISP is 
entitled to a /32, it would be a business choice of an ISP to select /35 
or /40 with ARIN-2013-3.

On 4/11/13 15:11 , Mike A. Salim wrote:
> Thanks John, I stand corrected - the policy is indeed worded as you state.
> Having said that, the policy as proposed for the July implementation, has left me with the impression that ARIN is having regrets about parceling out /32 blocks early on for even the smallest requests (i.e. for early adopters), and wishes they had started with /36 instead.  It being not feasible to forcibly retrieve those /32 blocks from ISPs, ARIN is saying to these early adopter X-S and XX-S ISP's:  "Hand back your /32 and renumber to a new /36 or pay a higher fee if you want to keep your /32".  Hence my comment.
> Best regards
> Mike
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> From: John Curran [mailto:jcurran at arin.net]
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> Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] tweak to proposed fee schedule
> On Apr 11, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Mike A. Salim <msalim at localweb.com> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I am in agreement with Michael Sinatra's tweak.  This seems to be a fair and balanced suggestion and only affects X-S and XX-S ISPs and who also have a /32 IPv6 allocation.  There is no affect for ISPs who are S or larger, nor for ISPs who are X-S or XX-S and have a /36 IPv6 allocation or no IPv6 allocation.
>> On the topic of /32 vs /36, I do not understand why a /32 should not be the smallest allocation that ARIN carves out.
> Under current policy, ISPs get a IPv6 /32 as their initial allocation, unless they specifically request a /36 instead:
> <https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html>
>> 6.5.2. Initial allocation to LIRs
>> Size
>> 	• All allocations shall be made on nibble boundaries.
>> 	• In no case shall an LIR receive smaller than a /32 unless they specifically request a /36. In no case shall an ISP receive more than a /16 initial allocation.
> Are you suggesting that they should not be allowed to request a /36 IPv6 block at all, contrary to present policy?  If so, this should raised on the Public Policy mailing list (ppml) for further discussion.
> Thanks!
> /John
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