[arin-discuss] Encouraging IPv6 Transition (From PPML)

Chris Grundemann cgrundemann at gmail.com
Mon May 14 18:23:12 EDT 2012


On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
> I would oppose this unless you're also willing to waive IPv6 assignment fees that do not accompany an IPv4 resource application. I see no benefit to the community from requiring people to consume extra IPv4 just to get a free IPv6 assignment. (Well, actually, I do see a small benefit in exhausting IPv4 and getting on with transition faster, but, I don't think it's necessarily good stewardship).

You're right Owen, I was over-simplifying. My fear is that a total fee
waiver may hurt ARIN financially. Even free initial-assignments may
cause harm.

I don't have ARINs budget at my fingertips, perhaps a staffer can let
us know how much it might cost to make initial IPv6 assignments (to
end-users) free for a year and then half price for a year.

That would do two things: First, it lowers a potential barrier, pure
cost of assignment. Second, it puts a touch of urgency on initial IPv6
requests: "Hey boss, we have to at least get our assignment this year
if we don't want to be forced to pay later..."

~Chris

> Owen
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On May 14, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Scott Leibrand <scottleibrand at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> IMO 1A and 2A might usefully go together as a carrot + stick approach. A little extra attestation work in exchange for a "get v6 free with your v4" offer should encourage v6 adoption without increasing the overall time+cost burden on the orgs applying for space.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On May 14, 2012, at 10:53 AM, Chris Grundemann <cgrundemann at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Four ideas to promote IPv6 deployment, for your consideration and discussion:
>>>
>>> 1) Make it as easy as possible for an org who actually wants IPv6 to
>>> get it. This is mostly in place today (allocation fee waivers, one
>>> maint. fee per Org ID, ease of qualification, etc.) but there is still
>>> some possible room for improvement:
>>>  1A) Waive IPv6 assignment fees for end-users who request both IPv4
>>> and IPv6 simultaneously.
>>>  1B) Move the </40 small/x-small threshold to <=/48.
>>>
>>> 2) Provide additional motivation for orgs to request and deploy IPv6.
>>> There are several top of mind methods to accomplish this:
>>>  2A) Require the officer attestation to acknowledge the current
>>> state of affairs regarding IPv4 exhaustion and IPv6 requirements.
>>>  2B) Continue or even ramp up (especially targeting end users) ARINs
>>> outreach efforts (which have been substantial in previous years but
>>> are being wound down post IANA-exhaustion).
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> ~Chris
>>>
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