[arin-discuss] Encouraging IPv6 Transition (From PPML)

Phil Mack Phil.Mack at controlcircle.com
Mon May 14 14:52:39 EDT 2012


What we need is the major broadband providers to run 6rd/native v6 in the UK/EU/USA and then v6 might become more than a research network (this is very true in the UK, almost none of them support v6 in any way), their has to be a massive push here somehow. Or we might start to see broadband providers use super NAT or other such horrid tools. 


 

From: Babak Pasdar [mailto:bpasdar at batblue.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 07:17 PM
To: Bill Darte <billdarte at gmail.com> 
Cc: ARIN Discussion List <arin-discuss at arin.net>; Jimmy Hess <mysidia at gmail.com>; William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> 
Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Encouraging IPv6 Transition (From PPML) 
 

Brilliant Bill -- Simply Brilliant!  Anyone at Google biting?

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	From: Bill Darte [mailto:billdarte at gmail.com]
	To: bpasdar at batblue.com
	Cc: Chris Grundemann [mailto:cgrundemann at gmail.com], ARIN Discussion List [mailto:arin-discuss at arin.net], Jimmy Hess [mailto:mysidia at gmail.com], William Herrin [mailto:bill at herrin.us]
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	Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Encouraging IPv6 Transition (From PPML)
	
	What we need is a v6-only YouTube or other content segregation that allows those with v6 to get a larger view of the worlds resources in some empathic way.
	bd
	
	
	On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Babak Pasdar <bpasdar at batblue.com> wrote:
	

		
		Chris,
		
		This is an important topic and I find your latter points to be especially on target.  Whenever I raise the IPv6 issue to my customers I get the same feedback:   "Yeah - Yeah, we've have been hearing this for years." 
		
		I believe that it is important for ARIN to develop more of an end-user campaign and in the effort to spell out the impact of lethargy and the failure to adapt.  ARIN needs not just to educate, but build momentum with strategic outreach so that IPv6 takes its place on the CIO mandate list.  This point is critical and I believe should be the center-piece of ARIN's efforts.  Bring on-board more strategic CIO evangelists and have them drive more high-profile IPv6 projects and others will follow.  
		
		Right now there is little to no IPv6 momentum in the US and thereby little to no CIO mandates for IPv6 projects which means lackluster industry engagement.
		
		Best Regards,
		
		Babak  
		
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			From: Chris Grundemann [mailto:cgrundemann at gmail.com]
			To: ARIN Discussion List [mailto:arin-discuss at arin.net]
			Cc: Jimmy Hess [mailto:mysidia at gmail.com], William Herrin [mailto:bill at herrin.us]
			Sent: Mon, 14 May 2012 10:53:43 -0400
			Subject: [arin-discuss] Encouraging IPv6 Transition (From PPML)


			Four ideas to promote IPv6 deployment, for your consideration and discussion:
			
			1) Make it as easy as possible for an org who actually wants IPv6 to
			get it. This is mostly in place today (allocation fee waivers, one
			maint. fee per Org ID, ease of qualification, etc.) but there is still
			some possible room for improvement:
			1A) Waive IPv6 assignment fees for end-users who request both IPv4
			and IPv6 simultaneously.
			1B) Move the </40 small/x-small threshold to <=/48.
			
			2) Provide additional motivation for orgs to request and deploy IPv6.
			There are several top of mind methods to accomplish this:
			2A) Require the officer attestation to acknowledge the current
			state of affairs regarding IPv4 exhaustion and IPv6 requirements.
			2B) Continue or even ramp up (especially targeting end users) ARINs
			outreach efforts (which have been substantial in previous years but
			are being wound down post IANA-exhaustion).
			
			Cheers,
			~Chris
			
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