From vixie at isc.org  Wed Mar  2 14:24:10 2011
From: vixie at isc.org (Paul Vixie)
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 19:24:10 +0000
Subject: [arin-discuss] my article today on circleid concerning demonstrated
	need
Message-ID: <37829.1299093850@nsa.vix.com>

members, i'd like to call your attention to the following blog posting:

	http://www.circleid.com/posts/whois_scared

while written from my perspective as an APNIC member rather than in my
role as an ARIN Trustee, i think it is compatible with ARIN's current
and historical philosophy about demonstrated need.



From rcarpen at network1.net  Thu Mar 24 23:41:29 2011
From: rcarpen at network1.net (Randy Carpenter)
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 23:41:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [arin-discuss] Flaky whois
Message-ID: <f7e2c3fb-4907-45ca-9241-325a0288ab6b@zimbra.network1.net>


Does anyone have any idea when the ARIN whois is going to be stable? It is been hit or miss for about a week. It generally just hangs via web, and times out via commandline whois.

-Randy

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From morrowc.lists at gmail.com  Fri Mar 25 06:26:13 2011
From: morrowc.lists at gmail.com (Christopher Morrow)
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 06:26:13 -0400
Subject: [arin-discuss] Flaky whois
In-Reply-To: <f7e2c3fb-4907-45ca-9241-325a0288ab6b@zimbra.network1.net>
References: <f7e2c3fb-4907-45ca-9241-325a0288ab6b@zimbra.network1.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=r7TGszx6btFXdHaRfUohXT8hptDq1LUdDWD1U@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Randy Carpenter <rcarpen at network1.net> wrote:
>
> Does anyone have any idea when the ARIN whois is going to be stable? It is been hit or miss for about a week. It generally just hangs via web, and times out via commandline whois.
>

at the last nanog (or a previous one?) Mark Kosters had a preso about
some sudden ramp up of whois traffic (a lightning talk perhaps I'm
remembering?). At that time I believe he said they were seeing
intermediate issues but had things in hand (aside from the wonder of
where the traffic came from, something related he thought to oauth
login validations?).

Perhaps the ramp up continued up? Mark?


From rcarpen at network1.net  Fri Mar 25 07:22:23 2011
From: rcarpen at network1.net (Randy Carpenter)
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 07:22:23 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [arin-discuss] Flaky whois
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=r7TGszx6btFXdHaRfUohXT8hptDq1LUdDWD1U@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <92c89139-2a7b-4918-a2d9-88972f5ec59a@zimbra.network1.net>


What I'm seeing is that most of the time I try a query (which is usually once or twice a day), it hangs for long enough for me to give up via the web site, and try via command line, which also hangs while waiting for a response from whois.arin.net.

I tried it just now, and the query got me to the redirect to whois.arin.net, and it hung there for about 2 minutes before finally loading. Command-line appeared to work well enough.


-Randy

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| Vice President - IT Services
| Red Hat Certified Engineer
| First Network Group, Inc.
| (800)578-6381, Opt. 1
----

----- Original Message -----
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Randy Carpenter
> <rcarpen at network1.net> wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone have any idea when the ARIN whois is going to be
> > stable? It is been hit or miss for about a week. It generally just
> > hangs via web, and times out via commandline whois.
> >
> 
> at the last nanog (or a previous one?) Mark Kosters had a preso about
> some sudden ramp up of whois traffic (a lightning talk perhaps I'm
> remembering?). At that time I believe he said they were seeing
> intermediate issues but had things in hand (aside from the wonder of
> where the traffic came from, something related he thought to oauth
> login validations?).
> 
> Perhaps the ramp up continued up? Mark?
> 
> 


From ndavis at arin.net  Fri Mar 25 08:24:07 2011
From: ndavis at arin.net (Nate Davis)
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 12:24:07 +0000
Subject: [arin-discuss] Flaky whois
In-Reply-To: <92c89139-2a7b-4918-a2d9-88972f5ec59a@zimbra.network1.net>
References: <AANLkTi=r7TGszx6btFXdHaRfUohXT8hptDq1LUdDWD1U@mail.gmail.com>
	<92c89139-2a7b-4918-a2d9-88972f5ec59a@zimbra.network1.net>
Message-ID: <D605A3EC633D2A468D69BE8BC715F5180114304C@CHAXCH01.corp.arin.net>

Randy,

We will looking into this immediately and report back any findings.

Regards,

Nate Davis
Chief Operating Officer
The American Registry for Internet Numbers

-----Original Message-----
From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Randy Carpenter
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 7:22 AM
To: Christopher Morrow
Cc: arin-discuss
Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Flaky whois


What I'm seeing is that most of the time I try a query (which is usually once or twice a day), it hangs for long enough for me to give up via the web site, and try via command line, which also hangs while waiting for a response from whois.arin.net.

I tried it just now, and the query got me to the redirect to whois.arin.net, and it hung there for about 2 minutes before finally loading. Command-line appeared to work well enough.


-Randy

--
| Randy Carpenter
| Vice President - IT Services
| Red Hat Certified Engineer
| First Network Group, Inc.
| (800)578-6381, Opt. 1
----

----- Original Message -----
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Randy Carpenter
> <rcarpen at network1.net> wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone have any idea when the ARIN whois is going to be
> > stable? It is been hit or miss for about a week. It generally just
> > hangs via web, and times out via commandline whois.
> >
> 
> at the last nanog (or a previous one?) Mark Kosters had a preso about
> some sudden ramp up of whois traffic (a lightning talk perhaps I'm
> remembering?). At that time I believe he said they were seeing
> intermediate issues but had things in hand (aside from the wonder of
> where the traffic came from, something related he thought to oauth
> login validations?).
> 
> Perhaps the ramp up continued up? Mark?
> 
> 
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From marty at akamai.com  Fri Mar 25 09:23:12 2011
From: marty at akamai.com (Hannigan, Martin)
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 09:23:12 -0400
Subject: [arin-discuss] Flaky whois
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=r7TGszx6btFXdHaRfUohXT8hptDq1LUdDWD1U@mail.gmail.com>
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I tried this this morning quite a few times and my results are all clean and
consistent -- I'm doing this from public wireless as well:

hannigan at clue-store> time whois 28.0.0.0

real    0m0.245s
user    0m0.001s
sys    0m0.004s


That symptom reminds me of broken Solaris DNS, reverse IIRC.


Best,

-M<



On 3/25/11 6:26 AM, "Christopher Morrow" <morrowc.lists at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Randy Carpenter <rcarpen at network1.net>
> wrote:
>> 
>> Does anyone have any idea when the ARIN whois is going to be stable? It is
>> been hit or miss for about a week. It generally just hangs via web, and times
>> out via commandline whois.
>> 
> 
> at the last nanog (or a previous one?) Mark Kosters had a preso about
> some sudden ramp up of whois traffic (a lightning talk perhaps I'm
> remembering?). At that time I believe he said they were seeing
> intermediate issues but had things in hand (aside from the wonder of
> where the traffic came from, something related he thought to oauth
> login validations?).
> 
> Perhaps the ramp up continued up? Mark?
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From rcarpen at network1.net  Fri Mar 25 09:24:59 2011
From: rcarpen at network1.net (Randy Carpenter)
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 09:24:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [arin-discuss] Flaky whois
In-Reply-To: <C9B20F80.254C8%marty@akamai.com>
Message-ID: <cfba4c69-7994-491c-ad9a-b5962d45c998@zimbra.network1.net>


It's looking to me like it might be some intermittent funkiness with IPv6 connectivity. Strange that it only affects whois...


-Randy

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| Randy Carpenter
| Vice President - IT Services
| Red Hat Certified Engineer
| First Network Group, Inc.
| (800)578-6381, Opt. 1
----

----- Original Message -----
> 
> 
> I tried this this morning quite a few times and my results are all
> clean and
> consistent -- I'm doing this from public wireless as well:
> 
> hannigan at clue-store> time whois 28.0.0.0
> 
> real    0m0.245s
> user    0m0.001s
> sys    0m0.004s
> 
> 
> That symptom reminds me of broken Solaris DNS, reverse IIRC.
> 
> 
> Best,
> 
> -M<
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/25/11 6:26 AM, "Christopher Morrow" <morrowc.lists at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Randy Carpenter
> > <rcarpen at network1.net>
> > wrote:
> >> 
> >> Does anyone have any idea when the ARIN whois is going to be
> >> stable? It is
> >> been hit or miss for about a week. It generally just hangs via
> >> web, and times
> >> out via commandline whois.
> >> 
> > 
> > at the last nanog (or a previous one?) Mark Kosters had a preso
> > about
> > some sudden ramp up of whois traffic (a lightning talk perhaps I'm
> > remembering?). At that time I believe he said they were seeing
> > intermediate issues but had things in hand (aside from the wonder
> > of
> > where the traffic came from, something related he thought to oauth
> > login validations?).
> > 
> > Perhaps the ramp up continued up? Mark?
> > _______________________________________________
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From morrowc.lists at gmail.com  Fri Mar 25 11:20:41 2011
From: morrowc.lists at gmail.com (Christopher Morrow)
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 11:20:41 -0400
Subject: [arin-discuss] Flaky whois
In-Reply-To: <cfba4c69-7994-491c-ad9a-b5962d45c998@zimbra.network1.net>
References: <C9B20F80.254C8%marty@akamai.com>
	<cfba4c69-7994-491c-ad9a-b5962d45c998@zimbra.network1.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikAGrh48WzW9KqVytsrsE7M76Deb3e8rBSzLmj0@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Randy Carpenter <rcarpen at network1.net> wrote:
>
> It's looking to me like it might be some intermittent funkiness with IPv6 connectivity. Strange that it only affects whois...

maybe your web/etc clients are just more forgiving?


From rcarpen at network1.net  Fri Mar 25 11:28:52 2011
From: rcarpen at network1.net (Randy Carpenter)
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 11:28:52 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [arin-discuss] Flaky whois
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikAGrh48WzW9KqVytsrsE7M76Deb3e8rBSzLmj0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0e5c9cb0-2a72-400d-a298-1b8090b08c2c@zimbra.network1.net>


----- Original Message -----
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Randy Carpenter
> <rcarpen at network1.net> wrote:
> >
> > It's looking to me like it might be some intermittent funkiness
> > with IPv6 connectivity. Strange that it only affects whois...
> 
> maybe your web/etc clients are just more forgiving?

Issues even to whois via web, though...

I have verified that it appears to be IPv6-specific, at least currently.

I'm working to get some more debug to the ARIN guys, so hopefully we'll figure something out.

It just started happening around the time there was some updates being done to the ARIN whois. I chalked it up to just being part of the maintenance, until it continued sporadically for many days.

-Randy


From ndavis at arin.net  Fri Mar 25 15:23:34 2011
From: ndavis at arin.net (Nate Davis)
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 19:23:34 +0000
Subject: [arin-discuss] Flaky whois
In-Reply-To: <D605A3EC633D2A468D69BE8BC715F5180114304C@CHAXCH01.corp.arin.net>
References: <AANLkTi=r7TGszx6btFXdHaRfUohXT8hptDq1LUdDWD1U@mail.gmail.com>
	<92c89139-2a7b-4918-a2d9-88972f5ec59a@zimbra.network1.net>
	<D605A3EC633D2A468D69BE8BC715F5180114304C@CHAXCH01.corp.arin.net>
Message-ID: <D605A3EC633D2A468D69BE8BC715F5180114679E@CHAXCH01.corp.arin.net>

This does not appear to be a system-wide issue but rather a localize problem in which Randy continues
to work with the ARIN team to specifically identify and correct.

Thanks Randy for working with us on this issue.

Martin, thanks for testing as well.

Nate

-----Original Message-----
From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Nate Davis
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 8:24 AM
To: Randy Carpenter; Christopher Morrow
Cc: arin-discuss
Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Flaky whois

Randy,

We will looking into this immediately and report back any findings.

Regards,

Nate Davis
Chief Operating Officer
The American Registry for Internet Numbers

-----Original Message-----
From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Randy Carpenter
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 7:22 AM
To: Christopher Morrow
Cc: arin-discuss
Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Flaky whois


What I'm seeing is that most of the time I try a query (which is usually once or twice a day), it hangs for long enough for me to give up via the web site, and try via command line, which also hangs while waiting for a response from whois.arin.net.

I tried it just now, and the query got me to the redirect to whois.arin.net, and it hung there for about 2 minutes before finally loading. Command-line appeared to work well enough.


-Randy

--
| Randy Carpenter
| Vice President - IT Services
| Red Hat Certified Engineer
| First Network Group, Inc.
| (800)578-6381, Opt. 1
----

----- Original Message -----
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Randy Carpenter
> <rcarpen at network1.net> wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone have any idea when the ARIN whois is going to be
> > stable? It is been hit or miss for about a week. It generally just
> > hangs via web, and times out via commandline whois.
> >
> 
> at the last nanog (or a previous one?) Mark Kosters had a preso about
> some sudden ramp up of whois traffic (a lightning talk perhaps I'm
> remembering?). At that time I believe he said they were seeing
> intermediate issues but had things in hand (aside from the wonder of
> where the traffic came from, something related he thought to oauth
> login validations?).
> 
> Perhaps the ramp up continued up? Mark?
> 
> 
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From Vijay.R.Trehan at boeing.com  Sat Mar 26 13:56:02 2011
From: Vijay.R.Trehan at boeing.com (Trehan, Vijay R)
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:56:02 -0700
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   4. Re: Flaky whois (Nate Davis)
   5. Re: Flaky whois (Hannigan, Martin)
   6. Re: Flaky whois (Randy Carpenter)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 23:41:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: Randy Carpenter <rcarpen at network1.net>
To: "arin-discuss " <arin-discuss at arin.net>
Subject: [arin-discuss] Flaky whois
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Does anyone have any idea when the ARIN whois is going to be stable? It is been hit or miss for about a week. It generally just hangs via web, and times out via commandline whois.

-Randy

--
| Randy Carpenter
| Vice President - IT Services
| Red Hat Certified Engineer
| First Network Group, Inc.
| (800)578-6381, Opt. 1
----



------------------------------

Message: 2
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 06:26:13 -0400
From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists at gmail.com>
To: Randy Carpenter <rcarpen at network1.net>
Cc: arin-discuss <arin-discuss at arin.net>
Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Flaky whois
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	<AANLkTi=r7TGszx6btFXdHaRfUohXT8hptDq1LUdDWD1U at mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Randy Carpenter <rcarpen at network1.net> wrote:
>
> Does anyone have any idea when the ARIN whois is going to be stable? It is been hit or miss for about a week. It generally just hangs via web, and times out via commandline whois.
>

at the last nanog (or a previous one?) Mark Kosters had a preso about some sudden ramp up of whois traffic (a lightning talk perhaps I'm remembering?). At that time I believe he said they were seeing intermediate issues but had things in hand (aside from the wonder of where the traffic came from, something related he thought to oauth login validations?).

Perhaps the ramp up continued up? Mark?


------------------------------

Message: 3
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 07:22:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: Randy Carpenter <rcarpen at network1.net>
To: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists at gmail.com>
Cc: arin-discuss <arin-discuss at arin.net>
Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Flaky whois
Message-ID: <92c89139-2a7b-4918-a2d9-88972f5ec59a at zimbra.network1.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8


What I'm seeing is that most of the time I try a query (which is usually once or twice a day), it hangs for long enough for me to give up via the web site, and try via command line, which also hangs while waiting for a response from whois.arin.net.

I tried it just now, and the query got me to the redirect to whois.arin.net, and it hung there for about 2 minutes before finally loading. Command-line appeared to work well enough.


-Randy

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| Vice President - IT Services
| Red Hat Certified Engineer
| First Network Group, Inc.
| (800)578-6381, Opt. 1
----

----- Original Message -----
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Randy Carpenter 
> <rcarpen at network1.net> wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone have any idea when the ARIN whois is going to be stable? 
> > It is been hit or miss for about a week. It generally just hangs via 
> > web, and times out via commandline whois.
> >
> 
> at the last nanog (or a previous one?) Mark Kosters had a preso about 
> some sudden ramp up of whois traffic (a lightning talk perhaps I'm 
> remembering?). At that time I believe he said they were seeing 
> intermediate issues but had things in hand (aside from the wonder of 
> where the traffic came from, something related he thought to oauth 
> login validations?).
> 
> Perhaps the ramp up continued up? Mark?
> 
> 


------------------------------

Message: 4
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 12:24:07 +0000
From: Nate Davis <ndavis at arin.net>
To: Randy Carpenter <rcarpen at network1.net>, Christopher Morrow
	<morrowc.lists at gmail.com>
Cc: arin-discuss <arin-discuss at arin.net>
Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Flaky whois
Message-ID:
	<D605A3EC633D2A468D69BE8BC715F5180114304C at CHAXCH01.corp.arin.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Randy,

We will looking into this immediately and report back any findings.

Regards,

Nate Davis
Chief Operating Officer
The American Registry for Internet Numbers

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 7:22 AM
To: Christopher Morrow
Cc: arin-discuss
Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Flaky whois


What I'm seeing is that most of the time I try a query (which is usually once or twice a day), it hangs for long enough for me to give up via the web site, and try via command line, which also hangs while waiting for a response from whois.arin.net.

I tried it just now, and the query got me to the redirect to whois.arin.net, and it hung there for about 2 minutes before finally loading. Command-line appeared to work well enough.


-Randy

--
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| Vice President - IT Services
| Red Hat Certified Engineer
| First Network Group, Inc.
| (800)578-6381, Opt. 1
----

----- Original Message -----
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Randy Carpenter 
> <rcarpen at network1.net> wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone have any idea when the ARIN whois is going to be stable? 
> > It is been hit or miss for about a week. It generally just hangs via 
> > web, and times out via commandline whois.
> >
> 
> at the last nanog (or a previous one?) Mark Kosters had a preso about 
> some sudden ramp up of whois traffic (a lightning talk perhaps I'm 
> remembering?). At that time I believe he said they were seeing 
> intermediate issues but had things in hand (aside from the wonder of 
> where the traffic came from, something related he thought to oauth 
> login validations?).
> 
> Perhaps the ramp up continued up? Mark?
> 
> 
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 09:23:12 -0400
From: "Hannigan, Martin" <marty at akamai.com>
To: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists at gmail.com>, Randy Carpenter
	<rcarpen at network1.net>
Cc: arin-discuss <arin-discuss at arin.net>
Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Flaky whois
Message-ID: <C9B20F80.254C8%marty at akamai.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"



I tried this this morning quite a few times and my results are all clean and consistent -- I'm doing this from public wireless as well:

hannigan at clue-store> time whois 28.0.0.0

real    0m0.245s
user    0m0.001s
sys    0m0.004s


That symptom reminds me of broken Solaris DNS, reverse IIRC.


Best,

-M<



On 3/25/11 6:26 AM, "Christopher Morrow" <morrowc.lists at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Randy Carpenter 
> <rcarpen at network1.net>
> wrote:
>> 
>> Does anyone have any idea when the ARIN whois is going to be stable? 
>> It is been hit or miss for about a week. It generally just hangs via 
>> web, and times out via commandline whois.
>> 
> 
> at the last nanog (or a previous one?) Mark Kosters had a preso about 
> some sudden ramp up of whois traffic (a lightning talk perhaps I'm 
> remembering?). At that time I believe he said they were seeing 
> intermediate issues but had things in hand (aside from the wonder of 
> where the traffic came from, something related he thought to oauth 
> login validations?).
> 
> Perhaps the ramp up continued up? Mark?
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 09:24:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: Randy Carpenter <rcarpen at network1.net>
To: Martin Hannigan <marty at akamai.com>
Cc: arin-discuss <arin-discuss at arin.net>
Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Flaky whois
Message-ID: <cfba4c69-7994-491c-ad9a-b5962d45c998 at zimbra.network1.net>
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It's looking to me like it might be some intermittent funkiness with IPv6 connectivity. Strange that it only affects whois...


-Randy

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----- Original Message -----
> 
> 
> I tried this this morning quite a few times and my results are all 
> clean and consistent -- I'm doing this from public wireless as well:
> 
> hannigan at clue-store> time whois 28.0.0.0
> 
> real    0m0.245s
> user    0m0.001s
> sys    0m0.004s
> 
> 
> That symptom reminds me of broken Solaris DNS, reverse IIRC.
> 
> 
> Best,
> 
> -M<
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/25/11 6:26 AM, "Christopher Morrow" <morrowc.lists at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Randy Carpenter 
> > <rcarpen at network1.net>
> > wrote:
> >> 
> >> Does anyone have any idea when the ARIN whois is going to be 
> >> stable? It is been hit or miss for about a week. It generally just 
> >> hangs via web, and times out via commandline whois.
> >> 
> > 
> > at the last nanog (or a previous one?) Mark Kosters had a preso 
> > about some sudden ramp up of whois traffic (a lightning talk perhaps 
> > I'm remembering?). At that time I believe he said they were seeing 
> > intermediate issues but had things in hand (aside from the wonder of 
> > where the traffic came from, something related he thought to oauth 
> > login validations?).
> > 
> > Perhaps the ramp up continued up? Mark?
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From jake at recol.com  Mon Mar 28 11:57:24 2011
From: jake at recol.com (Jacob Epstein)
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:57:24 -0400
Subject: [arin-discuss] Microsoft and IPv4 Purchase
Message-ID: <4D90AFE4.5020808@recol.com>

All,

I haven't seen a thread on our listserve yet per Microsoft planning to 
purchase IPv4 from Nortel's Bankruptcy proceedings.

Here are two links that we found on the topic.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/microsoft-pays-a-premium-for-nortel-ipv4-addresses/
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9215091/IPv4_address_transfers_must_meet_policy_ARIN_chief_says

Thanks to John Curran, our CEO for his involvement. Its important I 
think for all Internet providers that IPv4 allocations follow an orderly 
and managed transfer process so that individual entities with big 
pockets and control the space.

Thanks,
Jake

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Jacob Epstein
RECOL LLC
Internet Solutions
4 Pin Oak Lane
Branford, CT 06405
Phone: 203 315-8130, Ext 212
WEB: www.recol.com
   



From jake at recol.com  Mon Mar 28 15:59:00 2011
From: jake at recol.com (Jacob Epstein)
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:59:00 -0400
Subject: [arin-discuss] Microsoft and IPv4 Purchase
In-Reply-To: <4D90AFE4.5020808@recol.com>
References: <4D90AFE4.5020808@recol.com>
Message-ID: <4D90E884.60007@recol.com>

All,

A member pointed out a typo. Here is the clarification.

Last entry should be:

"... so that individual entities with big pockets can't control the space."

Thanks,
Jake

On 3/28/2011 11:57 AM, Jacob Epstein wrote:
> All,
>
> I haven't seen a thread on our listserve yet per Microsoft planning to 
> purchase IPv4 from Nortel's Bankruptcy proceedings.
>
> Here are two links that we found on the topic.
>
> http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/microsoft-pays-a-premium-for-nortel-ipv4-addresses/ 
>
> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9215091/IPv4_address_transfers_must_meet_policy_ARIN_chief_says 
>
>
> Thanks to John Curran, our CEO for his involvement. Its important I 
> think for all Internet providers that IPv4 allocations follow an 
> orderly and managed transfer process so that individual entities with 
> big pockets and control the space.
>
> Thanks,
> Jake
>


-- 
Jacob Epstein
RECOL LLC
Internet Solutions
4 Pin Oak Lane
Branford, CT 06405
Phone: 203 315-8130, Ext 212
WEB: www.recol.com
   



From leland at gandi.net  Mon Mar 28 16:40:04 2011
From: leland at gandi.net (Leland Vandervort)
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 22:40:04 +0200
Subject: [arin-discuss] Microsoft and IPv4 Purchase
In-Reply-To: <4D90E884.60007@recol.com>
References: <4D90AFE4.5020808@recol.com> <4D90E884.60007@recol.com>
Message-ID: <8D001F09-A532-43C1-8ED7-5B6DB43E6A72@gandi.net>


It would be interesting to know whether one or the other (seller or vendor) have a legacy RSA with ARIN, because given the size of the IP space concerned, it can only be out of the legacy block.  If no RSA, then it would be interesting to see how this plays out eventually.

just my $0.02.


Leland Vandervort
CIO
Gandi SAS
15 Place de la Nation
75011 Paris
T: +33 1 70 39 37 59
M: +33 6 31 15 15 07
E: leland at gandi.net



On 28 Mar 2011, at 21:59, Jacob Epstein wrote:

> All,
> 
> A member pointed out a typo. Here is the clarification.
> 
> Last entry should be:
> 
> "... so that individual entities with big pockets can't control the space."
> 
> Thanks,
> Jake
> 
> On 3/28/2011 11:57 AM, Jacob Epstein wrote:
>> All,
>> 
>> I haven't seen a thread on our listserve yet per Microsoft planning to purchase IPv4 from Nortel's Bankruptcy proceedings.
>> 
>> Here are two links that we found on the topic.
>> 
>> http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/microsoft-pays-a-premium-for-nortel-ipv4-addresses/ 
>> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9215091/IPv4_address_transfers_must_meet_policy_ARIN_chief_says 
>> 
>> Thanks to John Curran, our CEO for his involvement. Its important I think for all Internet providers that IPv4 allocations follow an orderly and managed transfer process so that individual entities with big pockets and control the space.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Jake
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Jacob Epstein
> RECOL LLC
> Internet Solutions
> 4 Pin Oak Lane
> Branford, CT 06405
> Phone: 203 315-8130, Ext 212
> WEB: www.recol.com
>  
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