[arin-discuss] Suggestion 2010.1 -- Initial Fee Waiver for IPv6 assignments to LRSA signatories

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

I am not in favor of an across-the-board, non-time limited fee cut.

I would be in favor of waiving the /31 to /30 and smaller fees for the
next couple of years.

I would not be in favor of any fee waviers after IPv4-runout at
this time.  I am therefore not in favor of this suggestion since there
is no expiration date or time limit.

My problem with fee cuts for the large legacy holders is twofold:

a) Legacy holders of that size generally aren't motivated by ARIN
fees, they spend far more in labor to convert to IPv6 than the
fee savings.

b) Legacy holders of that size have TREMENDOUS financial incentive
to be early-IPv6 adopters.  The earlier they adopt, and insert NAT
into their IPv4 infrastructure, the more IPv4 they can free up and
then turn around and sell on the transfer market when the prices
are higher.  They do not need even more monetary icing on the cake,
as it were.

I would be more than willing to review my position after a few years
have elapsed past IPv4-runout, and if it appears that IPv6 adoption
is still stalled at that time, to consider fee incentives.

I would also be willing to give ARIN authority to waive IPv6 fees
for the large holders on a case-by-case basis.  Meaning, if a large
holder with justification for a /22 or some such were to approach
ARIN and commit to switching to IPv6 and thus releasing a large block
of legacy IPv4 that ARIN could write a contract with them that waives
the $36K fee in exchange for a written contract to abandon a large 
legacy holding (like an /8 or some such)

But not this across-the-board handout to the large holders with no
strings attached.


Thus,
Ted

Owen DeLong wrote:
> I have submitted a formal suggestion to the ACSP recommending that the BoT waive initial
> assignment fees for IPv6 when the applicant is a legacy resource holder that has signed
> the LRSA.
> 
> I believe this helps remove most of the barriers to entry for legacy IPv4 holders to migrate
> to IPv6 and is in the best interests of the community.
> 
> ARIN has informed me that the matter will be placed on the Board's finance committee
> agenda.  As such, I would like to encourage members here who have an opinion on the
> matter to let the board know what you think, ideally by posting a message to this list.
> 
> 
> Owen
> 
> 
> Below is the message I received from ARIN and the original suggestion I submitted:
> 
> Owen,
> 
> 
> This is in response to your suggestion noted below and assigned number 2010.1.
> 
> Thank you for your suggestion relating to charging no initial fee related to request for an initial IPv6 allocation and/or assignments for Legacy Holders that have signed the ARIN Legacy Registration Service Agreement.  As this relates to fees, this will be added to the ARIN Board's Finance Committee agenda for 2010.
> 
> Some other information related to this suggestion is that the current IPv6 waiver for allocations for initial requests and renewals in 2010 is a 50% fee waiver. For requests in 2011, the allocation fees will be 25% waived. 
> In terms of assignments, the initial fee is not waived.  Clients requesting assignment resources pay an initial fee per request of address space and thereafter pay annual allocation or maintenance fees related to the Organizational ID as a whole. Initial fees are to cover the effort related to reviewing and analyzing the request, whereas maintenance fees are designed to cover the overhead of maintaining objects in the database.
> 
> Recent changes were implemented in mid 2009 for organizations with both ARIN-issued and Legacy Resources. They are assessed an Annual Fee based on the ARIN-issued resources and not charged the Legacy resource maintenance fee.
> 
> ARIN is reliant on its active membership to help it better serve the community and we want to commend you for your continuing activism and service.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Member Services
> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
> 
> *********************************************
> 
> 2010.1
> 01-18-2010 16:58:30
> 
> ARIN should offer legacy holders that sign the LRSA the opportunity to receive an appropriate IPv6 allocation or assignment for no initial fee. The applicable standard renewal fees would apply thereafter.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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