[arin-discuss] use of 128.66.0.0/16 not clear

[Jason Schiller]

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, David Farmer wrote:

> The only thing I can find in whois now;
> 
> OrgName:    Interop Show Network
> OrgID:      ISN-4
> Address:    600 Harrison St
> City:       San Francisco
> StateProv:  CA
> PostalCode: 94107
> Country:    US
> 
> NetRange:   128.64.0.0 - 128.64.255.255
> CIDR:       128.64.0.0/16
> NetName:    SHOWNETB3
> NetHandle:  NET-128-64-0-0-1
> Parent:     NET-128-0-0-0-0
> NetType:    Direct Assignment
> NameServer: DNS.INTEROP.NET
> NameServer: SOLARIS.CC.VT.EDU
> Comment:
> RegDate:    1991-09-18
> Updated:    2003-03-06
> 
> Maybe we can get this returned too?

Looks to me like this space is in use Orignated from:
 209 - Qwest
11192, 10949 - Smart City
21882 - Priority Networks

It is possible that Interop Show Network gets transit from Qwest, and has
some sort of customer relationship with Priority Networks and Smart City
who both provide Internet access to hotels and confrence sites.  It is
even possible that Interop Show Network became a corporation and spun off
into both Priority Networks and Smart City.

If you have information that this space is either not being used, or has
been hi-jacked then you should provide that information to ARIN so they
can investigate... 

__Jason 


show route 128.64.0.0/16
inet.0: 
+ = Active Route, - = Last Active, * = Both

128.64.0.0/24      *[BGP/170] 7w0d 08:06:43, MED 10, localpref 100, from
                      AS path: 209 I
128.64.1.0/24      *[BGP/170] 7w0d 08:06:43, MED 10, localpref 100, from
                      AS path: 209 I
128.64.2.0/24      *[BGP/170] 7w0d 08:06:43, MED 10, localpref 100, from
                      AS path: 209 I
128.64.128.0/22    *[BGP/170] 22w6d 08:28:41, MED 0, localpref 100, from
                      AS path: 23005 11192 I
                    [BGP/170] 22w6d 08:28:41, MED 0, localpref 100, from
                      AS path: 23005 11192 I
128.64.132.0/23    *[BGP/170] 22w6d 08:28:41, MED 0, localpref 100, from
                      AS path: 23005 11192 I
                    [BGP/170] 22w6d 08:28:41, MED 0, localpref 100, from
                      AS path: 23005 11192 I
128.64.134.0/24    *[BGP/170] 22w6d 08:28:41, MED 0, localpref 100, from
                      AS path: 23005 11192 I
                    [BGP/170] 22w6d 08:28:41, MED 0, localpref 100, from
                      AS path: 23005 11192 I
128.64.135.0/24    *[BGP/170] 9w0d 09:23:14, MED 10, localpref 100, from
                      AS path: 1239 21882 I
128.64.136.0/24    *[BGP/170] 9w0d 09:23:14, MED 10, localpref 100, from
                      AS path: 1239 21882 I
128.64.139.0/24    *[BGP/170] 1d 03:51:44, MED 10, localpref 100, from
                      AS path: 174 10949 I
128.64.142.0/24    *[BGP/170] 22w6d 08:28:41, MED 0, localpref 100, from
                      AS path: 23005 11192 I
                    [BGP/170] 22w6d 08:28:41, MED 0, localpref 100, from
                      AS path: 23005 11192 I
128.64.146.0/23    *[BGP/170] 22w6d 08:28:41, MED 0, localpref 100, from
                      AS path: 23005 11192 I
128.64.156.0/24    *[BGP/170] 1w3d 17:03:19, MED 10, localpref 100, from
                      AS path: 3549 21882 I
128.64.162.0/24    *[BGP/170] 22w6d 08:28:41, MED 0, localpref 100, from
                      AS path: 23005 11192 I
                    [BGP/170] 22w6d 08:28:41, MED 0, localpref 100, from
                      AS path: 23005 11192 I
128.64.163.0/24    *[BGP/170] 1d 03:51:44, MED 10, localpref 100, from
                      AS path: 174 10949 I
128.64.172.0/24    *[BGP/170] 1w5d 06:06:55, MED 10, localpref 100, from
                      AS path: 3549 21882 I
128.64.175.0/24    *[BGP/170] 9w0d 09:23:14, MED 10, localpref 100, from
                      AS path: 1239 21882 I
128.64.176.0/23    *[BGP/170] 1w5d 00:20:33, MED 10, localpref 100, from
                      AS path: 3549 22822 21882 ?
128.64.180.0/24    *[BGP/170] 1w5d 06:06:55, MED 10, localpref 100, from
                      AS path: 3549 21882 I
128.64.192.0/22    *[BGP/170] 1w5d 00:20:33, MED 10, localpref 100, from
                      AS path: 3549 22822 21882 ?
128.64.196.0/24    *[BGP/170] 1w3d 16:14:00, MED 10, localpref 100, from
                      AS path: 3549 21882 I
128.64.211.0/24    *[BGP/170] 9w0d 09:23:14, MED 10, localpref 100, from
                      AS path: 1239 21882 I
128.64.220.0/24    *[BGP/170] 1w5d 06:06:55, MED 10, localpref 100, from
                      AS path: 3549 21882 I


> 
> So we are talking about maybe re-aggregating a whole /12 if 
> 128.64.0.0/16 and 128.66.0.0/16 were returned to IANA and put in the 
> free pool.  A /12 is going to become a very globally significant chunk 
> of IP space very soon now.
> 
> So I take back my initial reaction and believe that Owen is right, 
> document that 128.66.0.0/16 is no longer considered a test network, 
> raise the word far and wide don't filter 128.66.0.0.  Then recover it.
> 
> Further, should Interop be asked to return 128.64.0.0/16?
> 
> It should be done very politely, with the utmost diplomacy, if it is 
> asked at all.  But, should it be asked? If, so Who? and, How?
>