[arin-discuss] Good Stewardship by example, I'd like to RETURN a /20

[Scott Leibrand]

Vaughn,

It's good to see more folks getting interested. I'm not sure that small 
ISPs were under-represented before, but either way, more participation 
and wider representation will definitely help. Thanks.

All,

If you haven't already, please subscribe to PPML, speak up on any policy 
proposals of interest, and be sure to participate (in person or 
remotely) at the next Public Policy Meeting. There are still a lot of 
policy issues on the table, many of which touch on the topics we've been 
discussing here the last few days.

Also, feel free to contact me, or any other AC member, if you need any 
background or other assistance getting up to speed on things. You can 
find us all at https://www.arin.net/about_us/ac.html.

Thanks,
Scott

VAUGHN THURMAN - SWIFT SYSTEMS INC wrote:
>
> Thanks for fleshing that out Owen.
>
> I think the issue is that small ISP’s (overworked and often 
> overwhelmed) have not been paying attention.
>
> I think the “community” is being represented by a subset that seems to 
> have (opinion here, not asserting as fact) been under-representing the 
> small ISP’s, which by the way make up the bulk of the community – the 
> silent majority in fact.
>
> I hope I am not the only part of the sleeping bear that has been 
> awakened, but believe we are paying more attention now. You might not 
> be so lonely on that stance should it come up again.
>
> ~Vaughn
>
> *From:* Owen DeLong [mailto:owen at delong.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, July 24, 2009 11:15 AM
> *To:* VAUGHN THURMAN - SWIFT SYSTEMS INC
> *Cc:* arin-discuss at arin.net
> *Subject:* Re: [arin-discuss] Good Stewardship by example, I'd like to 
> RETURN a /20
>
>
>     PS. I also just learned (from an offline conversation, quote
>     below) that
>     ARIN recently set a policy to allow the selling of IP space (paid
>     transfers)
>     between organizations. Does this seem counter to good stewardship
>     in a time
>     of impending depletion? If I have my head on straight, this is a
>     pretty
>     kind act towards those same early/big assignment holders, isn't it?
>
> You say "ARIN recently set" as if ARIN was some third party setting policy
>
> independent of input from the membership or the community.
>
> While the policy proposals in question took a tortured and circuitous 
> route
>
> to adoption, it was definitely done with community input and support
>
> throughout the process.
>
> It is a matter of record that I was the only dissenting voice in passing
>
> policy proposal 2009-1, and, that I did so strictly because I felt 
> that the
>
> community's interests were not represented in the removal of the sunset
>
> clause. Given the lack of support for subsequently restoring the sunset
>
> clause both in the AC and apparently on PPML, I can only conclude
>
> that my belief the community wanted the sunset clause may well have
>
> been incorrect.
>
> While I remain unconvinced that a liberalized transfer policy is good
>
> policy, I am convinced that of the community which was participating
>
> in policy development at the time the issue was being considered, there
>
> was/is strong support for such a policy.
>
> I do not believe the ARIN should adopt bad policy just because there
>
> is strong community support for it. However, I do believe that if ARIN
>
> (specifically the AC and the BoT) are going to go against strong
>
> community support, then, they should be somewhat certain that the
>
> policy in question is bad policy. I am not sufficiently certain that the
>
> relaxed transfer policy is bad policy.
>
> Owen
>
> The opinions above are mine and mine alone. I am not speaking
>
> for the AC and many members of the AC disagree with me on
>
> this subject.
>
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