[arin-discuss] Good Stewardship by example, I'd like to RETURN a /20

Jon Radel jradel at vantage.com
Thu Jul 23 22:14:05 EDT 2009



VAUGHN THURMAN - SWIFT SYSTEMS INC wrote:
> Lee Wrote:
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>> ...If you don't, then please answer the question: "How much (effort=time=)
>> money should ARIN spend on reclamation?"...
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> Well... as much as can be reasonably allocated to the effort starting on Monday.  1 year of additional time might make the difference between survival and/or implosion for service providers trapped under other providers that are not making proper progress.  I don't want to see some of us (even if I am in "the club") make it through at the expense of others who are asking for help - that is reasonable, possible, and equitable.
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Yes, I'm a cynic, but....  When I hear things like this I wonder, I 
truly wonder what evidence there is that should enough addresses be 
recovered to put run-out off for another year, that an awful lot of 
management teams won't immediately refocus their efforts on projects 
with pay offs in the next quarter or two and shift their entire ipv6 
efforts out by a year or so?  Obviously, not everyone will do that, and 
overall we will be closer to being able to deal with run-out, but all 
evidence I've seen over the years of listening to this discussion go 
'round and 'round, is that a year's grace does not equal a year's effort 
or progress in implementing a long-term solution.
> A nice certified letter went out a month or two ago (3?), that alerted the community to the seriousness of the issue at hand.  The result (well done by the way ARIN) is increased participation and awareness.  So now that we have critical mass building, do we have enough time for a smooth transition?
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You mean the one my CEO faxed to my VP (and otherwise ignored) who sent 
it to me and a couple of other technical people (and otherwise ignored) 
after I'd given my VP a heads up that the CEO would be getting it?  Do 
we really have any hard data, or even squishy data, on how many 
corporate officers said, "Oh, my, I never knew that; we'll do something 
about it!"   Does ARIN staff have any sense for how many contacts 
they've had as a result of the letter, and possibly even how many of 
those might be characterized as productive?  I apologize if that 
information has been published and I've missed it.

While I think the letter was a good thing, don't underestimate the 
number of corporate officers who still don't comprehend and/or care what 
impact this will have on them in the next couple of years.  It'll take a 
couple more letters and a couple of WSJ front-page articles about 
company, or at least major initiative, failures due to inability to get 
v4 addresses, before everyone gets that this is something that they have 
to pay attention to.

-- 

Jon Radel
Senior Director of Engineering
Vantage Communications
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