[arin-discuss] Food for thought: IPv4 accountability.

[John Curran]

Nathaniel -

     While ARIN is being diligent in verifying IPv4 address requests,  
the outstanding
     size of the IPv4 free pool is not creating an "strain" on meeting  
the needs of ISP's
     for IPv4 addresses.

     What most smaller ISP's are experiencing in difficulty obtaining  
IPv4 address space
     is due to the requirements to show existing utilization of  
upstream ISP's assignment
     and/or to show that they are multi-homed.  These requirements in  
the IPv4 policy
     stem from the communities concern that having every ISP today  
immediately get
     an IPv4 address block would result in some assignments going  
unused, and further
     would result in a rapidly growing IPv4 routing table.

     I acknowledge it can be challenging for a smaller ISP to obtain  
their own IPv4
     address block, but want to be clear that the reason for this is  
the current policy
     and concerns about routing, not per se any result of the pending  
depletion of
     the IPv4 available pool.

/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN

p.s.  As always, the ARIN policy in this area can be changed if the  
community reaches
         consensus on improvements.   Information on the policy  
development process can
         be found at  <https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html>


On Jul 21, 2009, at 5:27 PM, Nathaniel B. Lyon wrote:

> Shon,
>
> I couldn't have said this any better myself.  We are a small/medium  
> WISP based out of Northfield Minnesota and we have been trying to  
> get an IPv4 block ourselves for some time now and actually found  
> that it might be easier robbing a bank than getting an IPv4 block  
> assigned to us.  We recently threw up our hands and went after an  
> IPv6 block, easiest thing in the world to obtain.  We were handed a / 
> 32 of IPv6 addresses literally in a 1 day.  Don't get me wrong, that  
> is great, but we are most likely not going to see IPv6 fully  
> utilized across the board for 5 years.  So in the meantime, what are  
> we to do?
>
> Long story a little shorter, my organization feels like the big guys  
> have pretty much wrecked it for everyone mid-sized and below.  For  
> us to even get our foot in the door with our own IPv4 pool is a pipe  
> dream.  To make matters worse, we are sitting here with this nice  
> pool of IPv6 addresses and we can't even start testing these IP's  
> because our upstream isn't capable yet of allowing these to  
> transport across their network.
>
> I don't know if we are the only organization that is feeling the  
> strain of the "lack" of IPv4 addresses, but something needs to give  
> between now and when IPv6 is the standard.  IPv6 is not going to be  
> the standard over night, so handing every ISP a /32 in IPv6 world is  
> NOT the fix either.  Smaller organizations need to be looked at and  
> given a fair chance at the IPv4 world.  Not having a shot in the  
> dark at an IPv4 pool is greatly straining some ISP’s.
>
> It’s nice to hear others are feeling like their IPv4 needs are not  
> ever going to be met, which is sad to say the least.  I urge others  
> to come out and share their opinions.  Unwired Broadband and  
> NorthfieldWiFi can’t be the only two ISP’s getting the short end of  
> the stick in the IPv4 world.
>
> Nathaniel B. Lyon
> Owner, NorthfieldWiFi
> (612) 991-4260
> www.northfieldwifi.com
> nate.lyon at nfldwifi.net
>
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