[arin-discuss] Is a review of fee structure called for due toimpending IPv4 runout?

[Artur (eBoundHost)]

Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
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   If what you really want is to see YOUR fee for your
yearly IPv4 administration to go down....
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Ted, let me clear up this one first.  Honestly speaking, the ARIN fees 
do not impact me personally in any meaningful way.  Whatever we are 
paying now to maintain our IP allocation is absolutely eclipsed by other 
business expenses.  My position is purely as an outside observer and I'm 
responding to your post on the topic.



Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
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   You sound almost like you would want ARIN to cease
all activity with assigning IPv4 post-runout.  Currently
though, ARIN has no authority to do this.
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This may not be as terrible of an idea as it seems at first, but 
probably not realistic.  The best way to spur the migration is to have a 
demand for ip addresses greater than the supply.  And lets be serious, 
the real people who make the difference in our part of the world are 
companies like comcast and verizon who blanket the country with 
residential and business access.  Until the end user is moved onto ipv6, 
businesses have no reason to pick up the expense of a migration that may 
or may not have fiscal benefits.  And these giants (att, comcast, 
verizon) probably also don't care very much if the fees go up for ip 
allocation.  They have a bottomless vault of money, so you can't push 
them into a migration by raising costs.

You are right, "dirty" blocks are not something i considered but i still 
don't see why it would be more expensive to deal with them since there 
is going to be a declining need as time moves on and v6 becomes viable. 
  And in my understanding the effort will be marginally bigger than 
issuing fresh blocks.  In fact are you certain that dirty blocks are not 
being redistributed at the moment?  Our allocation seemed to have all 
sorts of bad history with various spam engines.

Anyway, i am not aware of the past discussions so if i said something 
that has been discussed to death, please accept my apologies.

Best Regards,


Artur
eBoundHost
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