[arin-discuss] pre-ARIN IP allocation legal rights

[Jo Rhett]

Thanks, Tuc for the references.  However I found nothing here I didn't  
already have.  So barring any pre-NetSol allocations, there is  
absolutely nothing in any of these documents that

1. Grants any explicit rights to the assignee  (I'll leave discussion  
of implicit rights to Lawyers)

2. Guarantees that any specific services will be provided (ie whois  
and in-addr.arpa)

3. Explicitly limits assumption, term of agreement (other than non- 
payment) or defines severability in either direction.

As noted above, lawyers would have to argue about implicit rights  
granted or implicit term.  I dunno.

But the net effect of what I am saying is that I just don't see  
anything standing out here giving any implicit rights.  So I'd  
appreciate anyone who can document these rights explicitly for  
everyone to see.

On Oct 11, 2008, at 7:01 PM, Tuc wrote:
>> On Oct 11, 2008, at 4:45 PM, Tuc wrote:
>>> 	Besides, wasn't paperwork, it was the oh-so-fun email
>>> templates.
>>
>> Yah, the Verisign days.  But the templates had text saying things
>> about the assignment and what you needed to be assigned, and how you
>> could lose it, etc.
>>
>
> 	Internic... "The InterNIC is a cooperative activity between the
> National Science Foundation, Network Solutions, Inc. and AT&T.
> Explore employment opportunities at the InterNIC, or read news and
> announcements.  Network Solutions sponsors Registration Services,  
> Support
> Services, and Net Scout Services. AT&T supports Directory and  
> Database Services."
>
> 	Do you have a copy of the template or a pointer online. I've  
> checked :
>
> http://docs.rinet.ru/MIIS/ch4.htm - Network Version Number 2.0 of the
> template ftp://rs.internic.net/templates/internet-number-template.txt
> that I could find still searchable. It might have been hacked up for
> that presentation.
>
> ftp://ftp.stben.net/pub/rfc/internic-ip-1.txt - Version 1.0 of the
> "INTERNIC IP ALLOCATION GUIDELINES FOR INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDERS"
>
> ftp://ftp.stben.net/pub/rfc/internic-ip-2.txt - Version 2.0 of an
> NDA for "PROPRIETARY INFORMATION IN CONNECTION WITH IP ADDRESS  
> ALLOCATION"
> I think I sent in to Kim Hubbard.
>
> http://web.archive.org/web/19961220083042/http://rs.internic.net/ -
> Wayback copy of the rs.internic.net from LATE 1996.I checked under
> Registration Services in "About Registration Services and the  
> InternNIC",
> "Help desk/policies" and "Registration Forms" and I couldn't find  
> anything
> about losing them. As best I can see for requirements, besides those
> outlines in the internet-number-template.txt that I saw a copy online
> of, is :
>
> "Network number assignments are made when a network POC (point of  
> contact)
> completes the template in ftp://rs.internic.net/templates/internet-number-template.txt
> and returns the template to hostmaster at internic.net."
>
> 	You also have to remember, this was back when the net way young, as  
> was
> I. :) Our society wasn't as litigious as it is now, and the net was  
> still a bit untamed.
> They probably figured that "The InterNIC Registry, under the  
> authority of the Internet
> Assigned Numbers Authority, allocates blocks of IP address space to  
> Internet Service
> Providers (ISP) for the purpose of using that space with their  
> customers." was the
> bulk of the legalese they needed to put in.
>
> 			Tuc

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