[arin-discuss] The joy of SWIPping

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

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> From: Chad Kissinger [mailto:chad at onr.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 1:18 PM
> To: Ted Mittelstaedt; 'Aaron Wendel'; arin-discuss at arin.net
> Subject: RE: [arin-discuss] The joy of SWIPping
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> >How exactly would ARIN have the time to actually contact any of the 
> >names in your SWIPped list and verify that they were actually 
> >legitimate, and that you hadn't simply put a bunch of fake names and 
> >addresses in there?
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> Exactly.  Why do we have SWIP in the first place?  
> Apparently, everyone is lying or putting in incomplete information.
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Anyone who is obtaining IPv4 for the purpose of speculating is
basically a criminal and I am sure lying is not much of an obstacle.
Same goes for those obtaining IPv4 for spamming.  So I am not sure
that designing SWIP policy to try and counteract criminals is going
to help much there.  HOWEVER, I -DO NOT THINK- that the fact that
criminals are liars should relieve ARIN of the responsibility of making
SOME effort to verify the legitimacy of the data submitted for
allocation requests.  That verification can be done with the current
rules in place, and your story to me really seemed to indicate that
such verification isn't being done, and that concerns me.

Ted