[arin-discuss] Status of Investigations

Dean Anderson dean at av8.com
Wed Jan 2 21:26:47 EST 2008


[ARIN agrees that discussion to recall Board members, to conduct
investigations of ARIN expenditures, and to stop certain ARIN
expenditures does not violate the ARIN AUP.]

On Tue, 1 Jan 2008, Paul Vixie wrote:

> if the facts alleged by filings in a lawsuit are to be given the same
> weight as truth, then rather than look at 8 year old TRO filings, may
> i suggest a more recent and pointed reference, that being the verisign
> lawsuit against icann, in which i was a named co-conspirator. 
> just because these lawsuits never went to trial doesn't mean that
> everything contained in the filings can't be used as character
> evidence here.

Thanks for the disclosure. Hopefully more disclosures will also be
forthcoming.

> furthermore, if the employment of former MAPS employees after leaving
> MAPS ought to reflect on the founders of MAPS somehow, then shouldn't
> you also do an exhaustive search to find out where every one of them
> wound up?  (and also for every other company founded by any ARIN board
> member?)  (or any company where an ARIN board member was an executive?)

As the managing director of MAPS, you were responsible for training and
indoctrinating these people. It wasn't just one bad apple; It was two.
We also learned that you have been on the Board of a spammer for quite
some time (Whitehat.com/American Computer Group).  Maybe the two bad
apples were the result of a bad example set by the boss.  That's why
this reflects badly on the founders of MAPS.

Did you profit from Whitehat.com?

> i find the quality of the investigations so far deplorably low.

So far, I must agree. It is quite difficult to investigate while
stonewalled by Management and the Board.  The investigations would be
greatly helped if ARIN would respond to the questions that have been
asked.  Most of the information so far has been gleaned from outside of 
ARIN. 

		--Dean

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