[arin-discuss] Justifiable Censorship?

[Jeremy Suo-Anttila]

How do I get removed from this list?

Thanks,

Jeremy


michael.dillon at bt.com wrote:
>> do you or we have the right to restrict his First 
>> Amendment rights? 
> 
> Irrelevant. Neither we nor ARIN hold any powers that are
> ultimately delegated by the Federal government.
> 
>> Is there really proof that he has violated 
>> the ARIN AUP or is "someone" just tired of reading his emails?
> 
> The ARIN president stated the proof in his email.
> Check the archives and read more carefully.
> 
>> We live in a country where people can burn flags,
> 
> Not inside a Walmart store!
> 
>> where 
>> protesters can waste considerable time and money,
> 
> Not in the City Council chambers!
> 
>> where we 
>> have the right to voice our opinion.
> 
> Not inside a synagogue!
> 
>> Like it or not, these 
>> are things that are part of our American foundation.
> 
> Our? Since when is ARIN American!?
> In any case, *YOUR* American foundation, which you seem
> to be quite ignorant of, has a whole series of limits on
> your rights, including that so-called free-speech right that
> you Americans are so fond of. My advice to you is that before
> you start telling people what rights you Americans have, you
> should do a little reading and educate yourself about how
> and why there are *LIMITS* to those rights.
> 
>>  I am 
>> not a supporter of Dean's tirades but I AM a supporter of our 
>> U.S. Constitution and the right to voice an opinion.
> 
> You don't have the rights that you think you have. Even before
> 9-11 you did not have those kind of rights.
> 
>> I realize that the list is 
>> not a public forum for "soap-boxing" and that you have the 
>> right to censor certain discussion... 
> 
> Oh! The penny is beginning to drop...
> 
>> If he chooses to risk a 
>> lawsuit for defamation and/or character damage, isn't that 
>> his risk and not ARIN's?
> 
> Again, an amateur lawyer. Look, if you don't know how the U.S. 
> legal system works, then don't make baseless assertions about
> it. At minimum, you need to have a first year university course
> in commercial law or the equivalent, before you can understand
> these things.
> 
>>  Unless you have proof that the 
>> information he has posted is untrue, isn't he innocent until 
>> proven guilty? 
> 
> So police officers in the USA don't issue tickets for speeding 
> until AFTER they have a court decision that you were actually
> guilty?
> 
>> I'd be interested to 
>> hear what the other members think on this topic.
> 
> See above.
> 
> --Michael Dillon
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