[arin-discuss] Suggestion to resolve the ARIN dispute

Stotyn, Mel mstotyn at enmax.com
Tue Feb 5 15:43:37 EST 2008


I think we need resolution of whether a quorum is necessary. I don't
think that there is agreement yet. If Dean's lawyer talks to ARIN's
lawyer, perhaps we will then know.

If a quorum is necessary, how can it be verified? With e-mail notice and
vote, what constitutes a meeting participant? How is it possible to
differentiate between someone who is aware of the vote but chooses not
to vote vs. someone who was not notified of the vote because of stale
contact information?

Do we need the member list scrubbed? Can we correlate space allocation
information with the member list?

I think that if an entity has IP space allocated to it, then it's a
member, even if it ceases to operate and can't be contacted. This seems
similar to e-mail voting in corporate shareholder meetings. That shares
are allocated to an entity can be verified. That notification was sent
to the most current contact information can be verified. Whether or not
a vote was received can be verified. It isn't always possible to know if
the notice was received by an entity or if a vote was sent but not
received. If a shareholder dies, the shares are still allocated to that
entity and therefore still a registered shareholder. It may take time
(sometimes a very long time) for someone to act on behalf of the dead;
sometimes never. There might never be a contact update. If the shares
are never recovered or cancelled, the shareholder still exists even if
dead. Perhaps IP space should be recovered just to clear up the member
list, even if there isn't much value in the actual IP space recovered.
Especially if quorum is necessary.

Mel Stotyn 
Senior Operations Specialist 
ENMAX Envision Inc. 
mailto:mstotyn at enmax.com 
Phone: 403 514-3443

-----Original Message-----
From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net
[mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Bob Roswell
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:03 PM
To: arin-discuss at arin.net
Subject: [arin-discuss] Suggestion to resolve the ARIN dispute


	We have a possible legal issue and a much bigger practical
issue.  An organization like ARIN is seriously compromised when the
officers are not supported by the vast majority of the members.

	It seems to me that the officers elected in the disputed
election should be ladies and gentleman and should resign for the
benefit of the organization they represent.  Then we should take a new
vote.  Prior non-participants (like me) will probably vote this time.

	      
Bob Roswell
System Source
broswell at syssrc.com
(410) 771-5544 ext 4336

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