[arin-discuss] No quorum in last election

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

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>"Stotyn, Mel" <mstotyn at enmax.com> on 2/5/08 7:35 AM scribed thusly:
>> I can see where the hot air is coming from. It isn't Dean. The lawyers
>> name needn't be confidential. Therefore, it is ARIN principals that are
>> causing the extra mailing list traffic by their obfuscation. Just answer
>> the questions, clearly and concisely. Then Dean will have what he needs
>> and so will those of us who actually do believe in democracy rather than
>> gamesmanship. Delaying tactics, obfuscations and Dean-bating makes me
>> wonder more and more whether some members of the ARIN board do have
>> something to hide from the membership.
>
>all of dean's requests should be made privately. you can read into what his
>real concern is by dragging this out in a public forum.

His real concern is that he wants a revote and he wants "his" candidate
voted for, and he wants this other candidate he doesen't like voted against.
I won't bother naming the candidates since we all know who they are.

What I think Dean is missing is that his insistence that there
wasn't a quorum is annoying the very people who he wants to vote against
this candidate that he doesen't like.  Thus, if he succeeds in getting
ARIN to say "OK Dean, your right, we are going to have another election"
it is going to very likely guarentee a landslide for the precise candidate
that he doesen't want on the board, because people who are annoyed by
all of this on the list are now going to go out of their way to vote
for the candidate that Dean doesen't want.

If I was running for election for something I would very much want Dean
to be in favor of the opposition since his talk would guarentee to
piss off all of my opponent's supporters.

I really see only the following 3 scenarios that this can play out:

1) Dean proves there was no quorum, the election is invalidated, a revote
is held and quorum is still not met - necessitating the "990 purge" that
I am requesting - followed by yet another revote that does meet quorum,
which is a landslide for the candidate Dean does not want.

2) Dean proves there was no quorum and the election is invalidated,
the bylaws are specifically amended to allow for board elections that
don't meet quorum, a revote is held which is a landslide for the
candidate Dean does not want.

3) Dean fails to prove quorum applies and nothing happens.

In all of these scenarios I do not see that this candidate Dean does
not like will be denied a seat on the board.

If Dean really thought that the ARIN board had a problem, he could
simply run for a position on the board during the next election.
After all it's not like there's a ton of people all arguing with
each other trying to get on the ARIN board.

Of course that would require that he put forth his position in a
manner that didn't piss off people.

Ted