[arin-discuss] ARIN Fee discussion
Howard, W. Lee
Lee.Howard at stanleyassociates.com
Wed Oct 10 22:53:08 EDT 2007
Michael K Smith said:
> I think a new discussion about fees is relevant, but I have a
> concern, perhaps unfounded. Let's say someone proposes a new
> cost structure (per IP, beads and baubles, whatever). That
> policy is then sent to the PPML list for review. My question
> is, who is reviewing it at that point?
The Finance Committee recommends fees to the Board of Trustees.
The members of the Board are elected by ARIN members in good
standing.
http://www.arin.net/about_us/bot.html
You tell these folks what you think on arin-discuss or PPML
or in whatever dark alley you happen to find them. ARIN-discuss
is preferred.
> More specifically, what is the distribution on the PPML list
> of the various customer types by ARIN size? My concern is
> that the list is mostly comprised of larger players who have
> a better understanding of the process and the importance of
> participation, while the smaller folks are underrepresented.
> Thus, the conversation is dominated by those larger players,
> not because of any nefarious underpinnings or sleight of
> hand, just because that's who happens to be on the list.
Looking at the archives,
http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-discuss/2007-October/author.html,
the conversation has included input
from quite a few people, whose affiliations I'm guessing from email
address unless I know better. . .
Michael K. Smith Adhost.com
Dean Anderson AV8.net
Marla Azinger ARIN AC, Frontier Communications
Mike Berger Shout.net
Leo Bicknell ARIN AC, Harrah's Entertainment
Philip Clark Paxio.com
Ron Cleven cleven.com
John Curran ARIN BoT, ServerVault
Owen DeLong JITTR Networks
Barry Dykes ViaWest
Kevin Dziekonski tst-us.com
Steve Feldman CNET.com
Keith Hare JCC.com
Lee Howard ARIN BoT, Stanley
Associates
Kirk Ismay Net Idea
Jeremy Anthony Kinsey Bella Mia
Chad Kissinger Onramp Access
Michael Lambert Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center
Scott Leibrand InterNAP
Thomas Leonard LANline Communications
Ed Lewis Neustar
Michael Thomas Mathbox
Ted Mittelstaedt IPINC
David Picard Internet Galilee
Ray Plzak ARIN President and CEO
Steven Raposo 19th Floor
Daniel Ruiz Anillo Networks
David Muir Sharnoff Idiom.com
Paul Vixie ARIN BoT, ISC
Aaron Wendel Wholesale Internet
David Williamson TellMe Networks
Bill Woodcock ARIN BoT, Packet Clearinghouse
Ryan Yaldor TampaBay DSL
Michael Dillon BT.com
(excluded unsubscribe messages)
Sorry if I missed anyone, or guessed wrong about your
affiliation. This was a good brain-idling task.
I don't see any major carrier represented. Maybe you could
say BT, InterNAP and Neustar are big players (in different
ways). The folks from BT, InterNAP and Neustar posted a
combined total of 5 messages of the 150 so far this month.
A glance at PPML looks like there were a few more posts from
ISP-related people.
You didn't ask, but four of the 15 ARIN AC members and none
of the 7 ARIN Board members work for large Internet providers.
http://www.arin.net/about_us/ac.html
http://www.arin.net/about_us/bot.html
Based on this sampling (please search through the archives
on your own and see what you get) I find no support for
the assertion that big players dominate ARIN conversations.
Lee
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