[arin-discuss] Are we going to vote on this ?

[Dean Anderson]

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, John Curran wrote:

> While the above citations are indeed verifiable, you've made numerous
> statements which not publicly verifiable facts.  These are likely what
> the prior gentleman was referring to by use of the term "allegations".

Perhaps you can inform me (off list) of what allegations you think are
unverifiable, and I will help you to verify them.

> > The dispute is whether these activities qualify as "educational
> > outreach".
> 
> That is ultimately a matter for the ARIN members to decide...

Actually, _ultimately_, its a matter for the courts to decide.  The
Board gets the first chance. The Members get the second chance, and the
courts go last.  As it was just noted, rehashing this to death will
turnoff the members from participation; leaving it to the courts.

> At every member meeting, we've presented a financial update and we use
> that as a opportunity to gain feedback from the community regarding
> direction on fees and services.  At the April 2001 meeting, we had a
> specific presentation that noted our current reserve plan had been
> realized, and that we could add additional initiatives and/or reduce
> fees.  (For those who are curious, a copy of the presentation may be
> found here:
> http://www.arin.net/meetings/minutes/ARIN_VII/PDF/day3_fee.pdf) I'll
> note that the 3rd slide specifically mentions several options for
> services and initiatives, *including* increasing outreach & education
> services and/or providing support to NANOG to do the session recording
> for remote participation.  There was ample discussion, with the
> consensus being that ARIN should pursue these initiatives before
> reducing fees.
> 
> Dean - ARIN is membership organization, and as such, needs to be
> very open and responsive to any concerns from the members
> regarding its finances and governance.  As a result of the discussion
> on this list over the last month, the staff will be gathering additional
> data on travel and outreach and we will provide that once available.

Thanks. I and many others look forward to seeing that information.

		--Dean


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