[arin-discuss] Legacy RSA

[Scott.Shackelford at cox.com]

Dean, 
 
 Regardless of the validity or accuracy of of the intent of theses threads, they are becoming  very counter productive.

The very participation that this mailing list encourages; your tone and persistence has begun to remove. Please look around and notice the growing number of 'unsubscribes' that have occurred in the recent past. There is a direct correlation here.
 Respectfully, I don't know your employment (nor do I need to), but you seem to have time in your day for deep research and calculation of your topics. For those of us that don't have that kind of time, these threads have become a menace.

I would encourage you to foster this kind of enthusiasm and vigor towards some viable IPv6 solutions. 

Regards.

-----Original Message-----
From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net on behalf of Dean Anderson
Sent: Sun 11/11/2007 3:51 PM
To: Ted Mittelstaedt
Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Legacy RSA
 
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007, Dean Anderson wrote:
> 
> That benefits _ONLY_ NANOG members. That is an improper transfer of ARIN
> funds when it increases (rather than decreases) ARIN expenses. ARIN
> management can't be concerned about NANOG funding. If it helps ARIN
> reduce costs, there is an argument. If it costs ARIN more, there isn't.
> 
> If it costs a few NANOG members more, that's irrelevant to ARIN.

I perhaps didn't explain why off-books "savings" are irrelevant.  
Anyone can imagine any amount of money that could be "saved"  off-books
by other people. If that were allowed, we'd be able to have meetings
anywhere in the world on the premise that doing so would save some few a
lot of money (enough to offset the cost of the expensive and otherwise
unjustified meeting location).  Having meetings in the Swiss Alps could
save a lot of us the plane ticket to go on vacation there.  Our saved
vacation expenses aren't relevant to ARIN.  We try to do that a often
enough by picking US vacation spots for meetings. What matters is what's
on ARIN's books. Did that decrease or increase by this joint meeting
scheme?  If it decreased, then they're geniuses. If it increased, that's
bad; At the least, its poor management; At the worst, depending on the
amounts, the personal benefits obtained, and other factors I won't
detail, there could be corruption charges.  I'd say we are in the
middle, right now.  Of course, when ignored, things get worse.

The Board is supposed to ensure good management and prevent bad
management.  When they ignore problems, they create serious problems for
themselves, especially when they are among the beneficiaries of ignoring
the problems.

		--Dean


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