[arin-discuss] Legacy RSA

[michael.dillon at bt.com]

> The answer is no.  
> People who work and buy products above layer 3 don't have any 
> choice about layers 1-3. Educating them about ARIN's purpose 
> in layer 2 isn't productive for ARIN.

You have a very poor understanding of business realities. 
Customers have an extraordinary influence over their
suppliers, if they exercise it by asking questions and
demanding features. The point is that companies whose
products do not support IPv6 will not be freely usable
in two to three years from now, therefore it is in their
customers' best interests to ask about IPv6 support now
in order to ensure that they are not stuck with unusable
products down the road. Customers tend to develop a
dependency on a vendor's products, and they tend to buy
stuff as an investment with the expectation of getting
several years use out of it.


> 1st question: Did ARIN get $50,000 worth of 'educational 
> outreach' from NANOG?  $50,000 will pay for a year at MIT or 
> Stanford.

What on earth to MIT and Stanford have to do with educational
outreach. The real measure is the number of attendees at NANOG
that can be reached compared to the number of attendees at
an ARIN meeting held without NANOG. By that measure, ARIN gets
a lot more bang for the buck with the joint meetings, well worth
$50,000.

> Are ARIN Board Members associated with persons previously 
> suspected of ties to organized crime?  Yes, they are.

Now you are in cloud cuckoo-land. Name names, or shut up!

This list was not created for you to fling around vague
accusations at all and sundry. It was created for *ALL*
ARIN members to discuss ARIN-specific issues such as fee
structures and internal policies.

--Michael Dillon