[arin-discuss] Spammer/Abuser screening policy

[Stacy Taylor]

Hi Everyone!
My totally awesome abuse department has left for the day, and we may
or may not have a true screening process, but  from an IP Management
perspective, *I* personally screen when suspect requests come across
my desk.  Then I check with my Abuse team and deny their request for a
/21 of discontiguous /28s for WebHosting that they need immediately if
not sooner.  heh.  Abuse ROKSOs and Googlesearches on the company as
well as the principals, and checks channel and some other magical
sites I don't really know about.  If they are known abusers, I do not
assign IP address space to them.
I'll let you know what Abuse says sometime next week if this is still
a hot topic, (I'm chaperoning an overnight field trip God help me). 
If not, I'll just reply to Mike?
Take care!
:)
/Stacy

On 4/26/06, hostmaster at lava.net <hostmaster at lava.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Apr 2006, Jon Lewis wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 25 Apr 2006, LavaNet Hostmaster wrote:
> >
> > > And after a particularly bad experience that we had, I'd suggest asking
> > > them, in 100 words or less, to describe exactly what "Confirmed Opt-In"
> > > means to them, and then read their response over very carefully, and
> > > see if you pick up any danger signs.
> >
> > Doesn't matter.  The one's you have to worry about will lie and tell you
> > what they think you want to hear.
>
> /me waves to Jon, a friend from Z!
>
> Actually ... they may lie, or they may tell the truth, and you'll spot the
> disconnect. But even if they lie, you have caught them in it later when
> you can point to X and say, "Then how did this happen?"
>
> Which is what we did in our notable case.
>
> Also, if someone trumpets their 'CAN-SPAM' compliance without being asked
> about it, be very afraid, because quite frankly, as anyone who knows
> anything about that thing can attest, it was written so that spammers ...
> 'CAN-SPAM'.
>
> Thus the name.
>
> > > Past that, you might want to check them out against this:
> > >
> > >     <http://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/>
> >
> > Google is your friend.  (well, maybe not some of you:)
> > Google for your prospective customer by name, postal address, etc.  Check
> > google groups too.  If the address shows up in lots of spam complaints,
> > that's probably not a good sign.
>
> Yeah.
>
> Aloha,
> Michael.
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