[arin-discuss] Privacy of Reassignment Information

[Larry Sanderson]

How do I get off this list? I agree with that question.

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> On Behalf Of PETER SKEELS
> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 4:10 PM
> To: william(at)elan.net
> Cc: ARIN-discuss at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Privacy of Reassignment Information
> 
> How do I get off this list???
> 
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> 
> william(at)elan.net wrote:
> 
> >You're not required to provide your email address or phone for ARIN
> >reassignment records (yes, there are marketeers that will send postal
> >mail advertisement, but that seems far from being serious issue).
> >
> >Phone and email are only required for contact information and that
> >is optional and you can always choose to use your ISP's contact for
> >reassignment (in fact that is how its done for simple reassignment).
> >
> >On Mon, 10 Apr 2006, Gary Wall wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>Hi Tom,
> >>
> >>I agree that there is a duty to be transparent. But open records are
> >>abused by spammers and enforcement against them is like trying to
get
> >>the toothpaste back in the tube.  Maybe having a system that
requires a
> >>non-machine readable challenge-response like Godaddy or such might
be
> >>the solution for all parties that need to query this information.
There
> >>might be a backdoor for qualified parties on a need-to-know basis.
> >>
> >>Best Regards,
> >>
> >>Gary
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net
> >>[mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Tom Vest
> >>Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 1:28 PM
> >>To: ppml at arin.net
> >>Cc: ARIN-discuss at arin.net; Mark Erskine
> >>Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Privacy of Reassignment Information
> >>
> >>If the information can be legitimately obscured, then it is only a
> >>matter of time before the anonymity will be abused by unscrupulous
> >>people.
> >>
> >>I think it would be prudent to take a letter from other "governance"
> >>discussions, and strongly resist the temptation to combat "higher
> >>level" abuses by imposing the enforcement burden on "lower level"
> >>operations/administrative structures. ARIN and the RIRs are vested
> >>with responsibility for maintaining records for number resources
held
> >>in public trust. If the records are abused, the specific abuses and
> >>abusers should be targeted -- even if this is more difficult --
> >>rather than taking the easy route of attacking the underlying
systems.
> >>
> >>Tom
> >>
> >>On Apr 10, 2006, at 12:37 PM, G.Hiscott wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>if the information is available, then it is only a matter of time
> >>>before it
> >>>will be abused for marketing purposes by unscrupolous sales people.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>___
> >>>www.keyconnect.com
> >>>
> >>>...... Original Message .......
> >>>On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:23:34 -0400 "Mark Erskine"
> >>><MErskine at HostDepot.com>
> >>>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I'll second that!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Thanks,
> >>>>Mark Erskine
> >>>>Host Depot, Inc.
> >>>>http://www.HostDepot.com
> >>>>Phone: 954.340.3527
> >>>>Fax: 954.340.3539
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net
> >>>>[mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Barry Dykes
> >>>>Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 12:20 PM
> >>>>Cc: ARIN-discuss at arin.net; ppml at arin.net
> >>>>Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Privacy of Reassignment Information
> >>>>
> >>>>I have to say that I do not agree with making everything public.
> >>>>Spam
> >>>>and phishing are one thing, but I pay a lot of money to get my
> >>>>customers
> >>>>and more to keep them.  I have no intention of posting that for
any
> >>>>competitor to browse.
> >>>>
> >>>>Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Barry A. Dykes
> >>>>VP Engineering/Operations
> >>>>ViaWest Internet Services
> >>>>bdykes at viawest.net
> >>>>303-407-4708
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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