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<div>On Feb 20, 2024, at 6:17 PM, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> wrote:</div>
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understand that legacy holders do not get access to the ARIN trust anchors,</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">
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so can't verify. That's one direction of trust, and I think it's unfortunate.</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">
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think that if they started to see benefit from RPKI, they might wonder why</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">
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aren't involved, and consider joining.</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">
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<div>Michael – </div>
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<div>Alas, the challenge is that there are legacy resource holders who have made a conscious decision </div>
<div>over the years that they are better off not entering into a registration services agreement with ARIN – </div>
<div>the same agreement that every other resource holder has & with the same terms and conditions – </div>
<div>and thus they decline to receive the full set of services as every other registry customer. While it is</div>
<div>possible that the benefits of RPKI will impact their consideration of the matter, it’s not at all assured.</div>
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<div>As for the reason why, we’ve heard it asserted by some legacy resource holders that they hold </div>
<div>unspecified and/or unproven rights to their number resource entries in the ARIN registry, and </div>
<div>furthermore that entry into an ARIN registration services agreement would impact those rights. </div>
<div>While ARIN has changed the registration agreement several times to reduce the probability of </div>
<div>any conflict, it is a realistic concern given the otherwise indeterminate nature of the assertions. </div>
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<div>ARIN was formed to take on full responsibility for the Internet number registry that was previously </div>
<div>administered under USG direction, and to provide a clear voice to this community on how these </div>
<div>number resources are managed. We have provided this community with the ability to elect its own </div>
<div>governing body for ARIN (the ARIN Board of Trustees) and that body has consistently held for over </div>
<div>25 years that that ARIN should provide legacy holders with the same basic registry services that they </div>
<div>were receiving at ARIN’s formation without cost or contract. However, we have also heard consistent </div>
<div>community demand for equitable treatment of _all_ ARIN customers in terms of agreements and fees; </div>
<div>this should not be surprising given that the ARIN registry exists in service to the entire community. </div>
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<div>The present situation is the result of balancing those two principled positions: ARIN legacy resource</div>
<div>holders continue to receive basic registry services (and many member-funded enhancements such as </div>
<div>online registry management, DNSSEC support for reverse DNS zones, etc.) without contract or fee. </div>
<div>They also enjoy full participation in the policy development process, the ARIN consultation process, etc. </div>
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<div>However, if they want to receive all of services that have been funded by the ARIN members – such as </div>
<div>authenticated IRR and RPKI – then they have to agree to the same registry terms as everyone else. </div>
<div>Doing so is quite simple, but does require being comfortable with being treated the same as every other </div>
<div>ARIN member – a problematic requirement for some given that they hold inherently inequitable beliefs</div>
<div>regarding their number resources in the ARIN registry. </div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>/John</div>
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<div>John Curran</div>
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<div>American Registry for Internet Numbers</div>
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