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<div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>Excellent point - we’ll make sure to clarify such at the close of the consultation.
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<div>On Sep 15, 2023, at 8:44 AM, Miles McCredie <Miles.McCredie@midco.com> wrote:</div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">One thing that I have been assuming in this discussion that would be good to make explicit – any new ROA or route(6) attributes should be exposed and manageable via API, not just via
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>ARIN-consult <<a href="mailto:arin-consult-bounces@arin.net">arin-consult-bounces@arin.net</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On
Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>John Curran<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, September 15, 2023 7:15 AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Adam Thompson <<a href="mailto:athompso@athompso.net">athompso@athompso.net</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:arin-consult@arin.net">arin-consult@arin.net</a>> <<a href="mailto:arin-consult@arin.net">arin-consult@arin.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[EXTERNAL] - Re: [ARIN-consult] Short summary of requirements (was: Re: RPKI/IRR Consultation Reminder and Update)<o:p></o:p></div>
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Set aside some time when you can watch your network <o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">
Go into ARIN Online, and for each ROA, toggle “Auto-Matching-IRR-Objects” to On for each ROA – this will cause automatic generation of matching IRR route objects. <o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">
Watch your network carefully over the next few hours<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">
Declare success, and get on with life as usual…<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">The risk involved would be if the route objects that are automatically created don’t match your current set and somehow conflict – <o:p></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">but that’s unlikely since only a “least-specific” route-object will be created and any more specifics that you have would take precedence.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">One thing I'm still unclear on after reading many, many words is: if *want* ARIN to manage everything for me automatically to the maximum extent possible, but I've already manually
created both ROAs and IRR objects, is there a non-disruptive, non-service-affecting, path to get from my current state into this brave new fully-automated world?<br>
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Based on the discussion to date, I believe the following approach for synchronized route object creation for RPKI ROAs in ARIN Online would cover most of the expressed requirements –<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
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– In addition to the present “Auto-renewing” attribute for a ROA, there would be “Auto-Matching-IRR-Objects” attribute for ROAs that could be set during ROA Creation or Manage ROA in ARIN Online<br>
– The “Auto-Matching-IRR-Objects” attribute could be On or Off, and would initially be set to the Organizational “Automatic Matching IRR Object Creation for ROAs” default value – which would be On unless/until changed otherwise by the organization.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
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– New ROAs created with “Auto-Matching-IRR-Objects” set to On would result in the matching route objects being created.<br>
– Customers could manage existing ROAs and turn "Auto-Matching-IRR-Objects” to On, in which case the matching route objects would be created.<br>
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– Existing ROAs with “Auto-Matching-IRR-Objects” set to On that are then changed to Off would result in matching route objects being deleted – but only if the route objects in question were automatically created.<br>
– Existing ROAs that are deleted or that expire with “Auto-Matching-IRR-Objects set to On would result in matching route objects being deleted - but only if the route objects in question were automatically created.<br>
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ARIN would not change the “Auto-Matching-IRR-Objects” for any existing ROAs, and these would be set to Off by default – so as to avoid routing changes that would otherwise occur at time of matching route object feature rollout.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
(Customers with existing ROAs who wished automatic matching route objects to be created would just have to log into ARIN Online, and manage toggle Auto-Matching-IRR-Objects to On for each ROA.)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
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Are there any particular comments or concerns with the above approach?<br>
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/John<br>
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American Registry for Internet Numbers<br>
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