<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Sep 15, 2023, at 05:14, John Curran <jcurran@arin.net> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div>
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<div>I believe that would be:</div>
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<li>Set aside some time when you can watch your network </li><li>Go into ARIN Online, and for each ROA, toggle “Auto-Matching-IRR-Objects” to On for each ROA – this will cause automatic generation of matching IRR route objects. </li></ul></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Perhaps: delete any overlapping or no longer desired IRR objects</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><div><ul class="MailOutline"><li>Watch your network carefully over the next few hours</li><li>Declare success, and get on with life as usual…</li></ul>
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<div>The risk involved would be if the route objects that are automatically created don’t match your current set and somehow conflict – </div>
<div>but that’s unlikely since only a “least-specific” route-object will be created and any more specifics that you have would take precedence.</div>
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<div>Thanks!</div>
<div>/John</div>
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<div>American Registry for Internet Numbers</div>
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<div>On Sep 14, 2023, at 10:03 PM, Adam Thompson <athompso@athompso.net> wrote:</div>
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<div>One thing I'm still unclear on after reading many, many words is: if *want* ARIN to manage everything for me automatically to the maximum extent possible, but I've already manually created both ROAs and IRR objects, is there a non-disruptive, non-service-affecting,
path to get from my current state into this brave new fully-automated world?<br>
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Subject: [ARIN-consult] Short summary of requirements (was: Re: RPKI/IRR Consultation Reminder and Update)<br>
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Based on the discussion to date, I believe the following approach for synchronized route object creation for RPKI ROAs in ARIN Online would cover most of the expressed requirements –
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– In addition to the present “Auto-renewing” attribute for a ROA, there would be “Auto-Matching-IRR-Objects” attribute for ROAs that could be set during ROA Creation or Manage ROA in ARIN Online<br>
– The “Auto-Matching-IRR-Objects” attribute could be On or Off, and would initially be set to the Organizational “Automatic Matching IRR Object Creation for ROAs” default value – which would be On unless/until changed otherwise by the organization.
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– New ROAs created with “Auto-Matching-IRR-Objects” set to On would result in the matching route objects being created.<br>
– Customers could manage existing ROAs and turn "Auto-Matching-IRR-Objects” to On, in which case the matching route objects would be created.<br>
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– Existing ROAs with “Auto-Matching-IRR-Objects” set to On that are then changed to Off would result in matching route objects being deleted – but only if the route objects in question were automatically created.<br>
– Existing ROAs that are deleted or that expire with “Auto-Matching-IRR-Objects set to On would result in matching route objects being deleted - but only if the route objects in question were automatically created.<br>
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ARIN would not change the “Auto-Matching-IRR-Objects” for any existing ROAs, and these would be set to Off by default – so as to avoid routing changes that would otherwise occur at time of matching route object feature rollout.
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(Customers with existing ROAs who wished automatic matching route objects to be created would just have to log into ARIN Online, and manage toggle Auto-Matching-IRR-Objects to On for each ROA.)
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Are there any particular comments or concerns with the above approach?<br>
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Thanks!<br>
/John<br>
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John Curran<br>
President and CEO<br>
American Registry for Internet Numbers<br>
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