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<div dir="auto">Since I have a nearly magical ability to damage every authentication device I've ever been issued (including my phone - this one has lasted over a year, which I think is av record), I'm highly doubtful of any scheme that *assumes* any authenticator
is durable. I would like a *minimum* of 3 active - one in my pocket, one in a locked drawer at work, one in a secure spot at home or in my car or somewhere else.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Double + 1 that number to account for rollover, and I'll already want to have up to 7 registered at times, for any account that's super-critical.</div>
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Yes, that's about how many copies of physical keys for locks that I like to get made, because I lose those, too.</div>
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Could I live with a limit of 10? Yeah, probably.</div>
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Which is more important: keeping bad actors out, or letting authorized users in?</div>
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All I'm hearing during this discussion is protecting accounts against hypothetical compromise (with IIRC no evidence this has ever happened, or any negative outcome has occurred previously) with no consideration of people who have unusual needs.</div>
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(Some of those needs, definitely not all, are referred to in American law as "disabilities", btw. I hope someone at ARIN has thought about how the proposed 2FA scheme complies with the ADA?)</div>
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<div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">On 1/24/23 12:56, Adam Thompson wrote:<br>
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<pre class="x_moz-quote-pre">Why on earth would you set a hard-coded limit? It's not like an additional database table is expensive.</pre>
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<div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">While, in general, I understand this sentiment (real world cardinality is usually: 1, 2, or many), I do see two counterpoints. Even speaking in general, it is sometimes useful to define a limit for testing purposes. If you say,
"We support 5", then you are hopefully actually testing 5.</div>
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<div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">In this particular situation, I think the following argument is even more relevant:<br>
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<div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">On 1/24/23 14:02, Tim Lyons via ARIN-consult wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">In terms of allowing the registration of multiple hardware security keys, I suggest allowing a maximum of 3 keys to be registered. This provides backup options in case a user loses or misplaces their primary key but encourages users
to be cognizant of deleting old keys that have been lots or become non-functional.</blockquote>
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