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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">(Can’t find the right message to reply to… and I’m replying wearing the wrong hat… oh well. I’ve got the same view under each hat, anyway.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I strongly agree with Owen – one of my upstreams at $DAYJOB, a significant regional LIR in their own right, has no employees whatsoever (as in, zero): everyone involved is either a contractor or
a (volunteer) board member. They’re a perfectly valid legal entity here, they’re a member of ARIN in good standing, and their stakeholder community (which includes me, wearing my work hat) deserves a vote. The non-employee who would normally be tasked (by
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Restricting voters to employees might have some benefits, but it would also utterly disenfranchise a non-trivial number of ARIN members, which is unacceptable in both Canadian and American philosophies
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Marla’s arguments appear to come from an unfamiliarity with the diversity of organizational (and taxation!) structures that exist within ARIN’s membership. I agree with Paul here, that attempting
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> ARIN-consult <arin-consult-bounces@arin.net>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Andersen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January 22, 2022 10:55 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>; Azinger, Marla <Marla.Azinger@FTR.com>; arin-consult@arin.net<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There are some good arguments on both sides; however, I see a pragmatic problem of enforcement. We’re talking 28 countries and in the US/Canada alone you have 60+ jurisdictions all with various employer/contractor law. This is before we
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Most of the time, most of the clients instructed me as “use your best judgment, you are more familiar with the parties in question.”. Occasionally, a client would ask for
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">In all cases, I absolutely voted in the best interest of each client (unless voting according to their specific instructions) with their vote. Most of the time this did not
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I find proxy voters don’t always care what the desire of the company is and there is no validation being done they casted votes how the owner of the vote would actually want.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I’m not a fan of proxy this day in age. Proxy to me is a throw back to before online voting occurred. There’s no reason a company cant vote on their own.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, January 10, 2022 12:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Azinger, Marla <<a href="mailto:Marla.Azinger@FTR.com">Marla.Azinger@FTR.com</a>>;<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:andrew.dul@quark.net">andrew.dul@quark.net</a>;<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:arin-consult@arin.net">arin-consult@arin.net</a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Not sure that’s low-hanging fruit, tbh. Besides MERLIN, I still have voting rights for … 3? local ISPs, who are all aware of that and OK with that. In any other arena, that’s just holding a proxy vote, which is not a big deal.<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#44546A;background:white">Adam Thompson</span></b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#44546A;background:white"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US">ARIN-consult <<a href="mailto:arin-consult-bounces@arin.net">arin-consult-bounces@arin.net</a>><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On
Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Azinger, Marla<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, January 10, 2022 1:53 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:andrew.dul@quark.net">andrew.dul@quark.net</a>;<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:arin-consult@arin.net">arin-consult@arin.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Implementing Single Transferrable Voting for ARIN Elections<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">All of this is gaming no matter how you slice it.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Silly me. I looked at the title and thought efforts were under way to stop one person from casting votes for companies they don’t actually work for but I didn’t read that in the write up. I would have thought we’d start
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><image006.png><image007.png><image008.png> <image009.png> <span style="color:#E74C3C"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.frontier.com__;!!M2UytebrhrTR!c2ZEjGLTpLzzB0NcqRhddq0ebLp4mUbzhD5ajlW6BmGWGO6t7IJUsP104CKB559o$"><span style="color:#0563C1">www.frontier.com</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Implementing Single Transferrable Voting for ARIN Elections<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Making the changes to the "election process" subject to a majority vote of the membership and having that right inserted into the bylaws might be one method...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 10:03 AM Adam Thompson <<a href="mailto:athompson@merlin.mb.ca">athompson@merlin.mb.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Peter, I don’t have a problem with STV. I do have a problem with the board having the latitude – unfettered – to keep changing voting systems without further bylaw amendments. The type of voting structure, particularly when deviating
from the norm that’s baked into Virginia law, should then be baked into the bylaws so that it can’t change in the middle of the night, perhaps even during an election.<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Do I trust the current board to not pull stuff like that? Yeah, probably, I think... (In fact, can I even name the current board members? No. But that’s a different problem.) Am I willing to blindly trust every future board that might
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<p class="MsoNormal">As far as the consultation’s goal to determine whether STV is OK or not? Yes, it is good. This is an excellent move overall.<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US">ARIN-consult <<a href="mailto:arin-consult-bounces@arin.net" target="_blank">arin-consult-bounces@arin.net</a>><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On
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<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Implementing Single Transferrable Voting for ARIN Elections<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">With STV there are many ways to re-allocate votes, and new ones may be invented. The videos presented previously illustrated one method. </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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