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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Not sure that’s low-hanging fruit, tbh. Besides MERLIN, I still have voting rights for … 3? local ISPs, who are all aware of that and OK with that. In any other arena, that’s just holding a proxy
vote, which is not a big deal.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">What sort of problems have you seen in this area (that I obviously haven’t)?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Azinger, Marla<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 10, 2022 1:53 PM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">All of this is gaming no matter how you slice it.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Silly me. I looked at the title and thought efforts were under way to stop one person from casting votes for companies they don’t actually work for but I didn’t read that in the write up. I would have thought we’d start
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Marla Azinger | SPVR, IP Management<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:#0563C1">marla.azinger@ftr.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> ARIN-consult <<a href="mailto:arin-consult-bounces@arin.net">arin-consult-bounces@arin.net</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Dul<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 10, 2022 11:40 AM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Perhaps a simple question, but "how" will the current board insure that future board(s) do not capriciously change the election mechanisms in the future?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Making the changes to the "election process" subject to a majority vote of the membership and having that right inserted into the bylaws might be one method...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">As stated before, it is the Board's fiduciary responsibility to ensure that a change of this magnitude is equitable and not vulnerable to capricious change. We will act appropriately based on this feedback.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 10:03 AM Adam Thompson <<a href="mailto:athompson@merlin.mb.ca">athompson@merlin.mb.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Peter, I don’t have a problem with STV. I do have a problem with the board having the latitude – unfettered – to keep changing voting systems without further bylaw amendments.
The type of voting structure, particularly when deviating from the norm that’s baked into Virginia law, should then be baked into the bylaws so that it can’t change in the middle of the night, perhaps even during an election.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Do I trust the current board to not pull stuff like that? Yeah, probably, I think... (In fact, can I even name the current board members? No. But that’s a different problem.)
Am I willing to blindly trust every future board that might exist? Absolutely not. I’ve seen how boards can be co-opted, infiltrated, and/or “turned to the dark side” (so to speak) elsewhere.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">As far as the consultation’s goal to determine whether STV is OK or not? Yes, it is good. This is an excellent move overall.<o:p></o:p></p>
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Consultant, Infrastructure Services<br>
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<a href="mailto:athompson@merlin.mb.ca" target="_blank">athompson@merlin.mb.ca</a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> ARIN-consult <<a href="mailto:arin-consult-bounces@arin.net" target="_blank">arin-consult-bounces@arin.net</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Peter Harrison<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 7, 2022 11:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:arin-consult@arin.net" target="_blank">arin-consult@arin.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Implementing Single Transferrable Voting for ARIN Elections</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">With STV there are many ways to re-allocate votes, and new ones may be invented. The videos presented previously illustrated one method. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">This link explains some of the options:
<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked_voting*Comparison_of_ranked_voting_methods__;Iw!!M2UytebrhrTR!ZZ9nY7Iqm8q8pZkxsQXDwXKKBYnBxxrhgUQsk72I0lQSknZQozPO16VzGa2rUE66$" target="_blank">
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked_voting#Comparison_of_ranked_voting_methods</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">We will need to balance the range of options with those provided by current and future vendors of ARIN’s voting systems. Investigations are being made by staff and they will make
recommendations to the board based on their research into our needs, best practices, practicability, relative merit, legal implications and systems availability. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">The purpose of the consultation is to get a sense of whether this is a good idea overall. The board will work hard to ensure that we are working in the best interest of the members
and the region they serve when evaluating the choices presented.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">As John explained, the bylaw modification was made to accommodate multiple forms of voting that may be required in future. The concern that this could lead to opportunistic changes
to systems each election cycle is sound. We will investigate ways to ensure this does not happen with possible bylaw wording to meet these and other goals.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">The Governance Working Group has worked very closely with both the executive team and staff on this consultation. Their support for a workable solution and concern for the membership
has been evident every step of the way. These consultations are the result of over two years of research and were not taken lightly. We will continue to work to maintain this excellent collaboration.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Thank you for your feedback.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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