<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">By forcing everyone from the old fees to the “Registration Services Plan”, they get membership automatically just like anyone else on an RSP.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 5, 2021, at 7:29 PM, Scott Leibrand <<a href="mailto:scottleibrand@gmail.com" class="">scottleibrand@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Can you point me to the language that makes end users into general members under the new fee schedule?<br class=""><br class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">Scott</div></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Nov 5, 2021, at 7:10 PM, Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" class="">owen@delong.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Nov 5, 2021, at 16:32, Scott Leibrand <<a href="mailto:scottleibrand@gmail.com" class="">scottleibrand@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">I am generally in support of these changes, because they would allow people like me, as an employee of an End User organization, to participate and vote in ARIN elections.</div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div>No, the fee structure change brings that about. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">These changes are strictly aimed at providing a mechanism to disenfranchise those who don’t vote in 3 consecutive elections. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div>Minor nit: The redline changes introduced a couple of typos in both places where it's supposed to say "participate in members-only discussions".<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In the unlikely-for-now event that general membership declines below current levels, the 100-member petition threshold could represent a majority of (or in the pathological case, exceed) the number of general members. You could eliminate that corner case by putting an upper bound on the petition threshold, such as 20%, so it reads something like: "The number of signatures required for petition nominations shall be at least two percent (2%) of, but no less than the greater of one hundred (100) or 20% of, eligible General Members as of the established opening date of the nomination period."<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In Section 5. Unfulfilled Positions and Partial Terms, it might be worth specifying whether the next-highest vote-getter assuming the unfilled position serves for the entire term or just the first year (as with appointed vacancies).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-Scott</div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 3:33 PM John Curran <<a href="mailto:jcurran@arin.net" class="">jcurran@arin.net</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Alan - <br class="">
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Pretty much correct - if you are a general member and did not vote in any of the past three elections, you will become a service member for the coming year. We intend to conduct that review annually after each election starting after the ARIN 2023 election. <br class="">
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FYI,<br class="">
/John<br class="">
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John Curran<br class="">
President and CEO<br class="">
American Registry for Internet Numbers<br class="">
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> On 5 Nov 2021, at 11:59 AM, Alan Batie <<a href="mailto:alan@peak.org" target="_blank" class="">alan@peak.org</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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> On 11/5/21 9:48 AM, ARIN wrote:<br class="">
>> Due to the level of interest in the topic, we have extended the Consultation on ARIN’s Membership Structure for an additional two weeks. It will now close on 29 November. The purpose of this consultation is to provide our customers ARIN’s plan for membership going forward and to seek feedback on planned changes to ARIN’s membership structure for 2022.<br class="">
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>> The full text of the consultation is available at:<br class="">
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>> <a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/community/acsp/consultations/2021/2021-5/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://www.arin.net/participate/community/acsp/consultations/2021/2021-5/</a><br class="">
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> If I read this right, it basically says "if you don't vote, we're not<br class="">
> going to let you vote" (which seems to be the only difference between<br class="">
> Service and General members)?<br class="">
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