<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"><html><head><meta content="text/html;charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"></head><body ><div style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><div>Hi John,<br></div><div><br></div><div>I think the number of petitions is too high, zero sounds good to me.<br></div><div>But then I'm jaded because I don't believe the NomCom should have the right to exclude qualified candidates at all.<br></div><div>In RIPE, it takes 5 members to nominate, and there are no rejections to be petitioned.<br></div><div>Candidates declare that they haven't committed fraud or financial misconduct and will abide by the published Code of Conduct.<br></div><div>No cigar-filled rooms.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Regards,<br></div><div>Mike<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class="zmail_extra_hr" style="border-top: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; line-height: 0px;"><br></div><div class="zmail_extra" data-zbluepencil-ignore="true"><div><br></div><div id="Zm-_Id_-Sgn1">---- On Sat, 30 Oct 2021 19:00:39 -0400 <b>John Curran <jcurran@arin.net></b> wrote ----<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote style="margin: 0px;"><div style="" class=""><div>On 30 Oct 2021, at 5:22 PM, Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" class="" target="_blank">owen@delong.com</a>> wrote:. <br></div><div><blockquote class=""><div class=""><br style="font-family : Helvetica; font-size : 12px; font-style : normal; font-weight : normal; letter-spacing : normal; text-indent : 0px; text-transform : none; white-space : normal; word-spacing : 0px; text-decoration : none;" class=""><span class="font" style="font-family:Helvetica"><span class="size" style="font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline;">While
I admit my perspective may be jaded by the fact that I oppose the entire concept of service members,</span></span><br style="font-family : Helvetica; font-size : 12px; font-style : normal; font-weight : normal; letter-spacing : normal; text-indent : 0px; text-transform : none; white-space : normal; word-spacing : 0px; text-decoration : none;" class=""> <span class="font" style="font-family:Helvetica"><span class="size" style="font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline;">if
you must disenfranchise voters at the ballot box, I don’t think that disenfranchisement needs to preclude</span></span><br style="font-family : Helvetica; font-size : 12px; font-style : normal; font-weight : normal; letter-spacing : normal; text-indent : 0px; text-transform : none; white-space : normal; word-spacing : 0px; text-decoration : none;" class=""> <span class="font" style="font-family:Helvetica"><span class="size" style="font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline;">them
from the nominating or petition process.</span></span><br style="font-family : Helvetica; font-size : 12px; font-style : normal; font-weight : normal; letter-spacing : normal; text-indent : 0px; text-transform : none; white-space : normal; word-spacing : 0px; text-decoration : none;" class=""></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>Presently it is only general members that are allowed to make nominations or support petitions - we have bylaw language that makes it so, and those who want to participate in ARIN governance should avail themselves of the ability to become general members –
doubly so if they believe that may wish to make a nomination or participate in a petition. <br></div></div><div><div class=""><br style="font-family : Helvetica; font-size : 12px; font-style : normal; font-weight : normal; letter-spacing : normal; text-indent : 0px; text-transform : none; white-space : normal; word-spacing : 0px; text-decoration : none;" class=""></div><blockquote class=""><div class=""><span class="font" style="font-family:Helvetica"><span class="size" style="font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline;">Personally,
I still think that the petition threshold is higher than it should be. Frankly, I’d be fine with a flat 30 signatories</span></span><br style="font-family : Helvetica; font-size : 12px; font-style : normal; font-weight : normal; letter-spacing : normal; text-indent : 0px; text-transform : none; white-space : normal; word-spacing : 0px; text-decoration : none;" class=""> <span class="font" style="font-family:Helvetica"><span class="size" style="font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline;">from
30 different individuals representing 30 separate member organizations as a valid petition threshold.</span></span><br style="font-family : Helvetica; font-size : 12px; font-style : normal; font-weight : normal; letter-spacing : normal; text-indent : 0px; text-transform : none; white-space : normal; word-spacing : 0px; text-decoration : none;" class=""></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>We cannot penalize organizations that happen to have the same individual as voting contact (by not allowing their ballot to be counted as support of a petitioner), so it would be more useful to understand the lowest reasonable petition threshold under
such circumstances – do you feel that the value 100 as specified in the proposed bylaw change is too high?<br></div><div class=""><br style="font-family : Helvetica; font-size : 12px; font-style : normal; font-weight : normal; letter-spacing : normal; text-indent : 0px; text-transform : none; white-space : normal; word-spacing : 0px; text-decoration : none;" class=""></div><div class="">Thanks,<br></div><div class="">/John<br></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">John Curran<br></div><div class="">President and CEO<br></div><div class="">American Registry for Internet Numbers<br></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div><br></div></div><div>_______________________________________________<br></div><div>ARIN-Consult <br></div><div>You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Consult Mailing <br></div><div>List (ARIN-consult@arin.net). <br></div><div>Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: <br></div><div>https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-consult Please contact the ARIN Member Services <br></div><div>Help Desk at info@arin.net if you experience any issues. <br></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div></div><br></body></html>