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On 21 Jul 2021, at 5:15 PM, William Herrin <<a href="mailto:bill@herrin.us" class="">bill@herrin.us</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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<div class="">On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 9:38 AM John Curran <<a href="mailto:jcurran@arin.net" class="">jcurran@arin.net</a>> wrote:<br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class=""> That’s an Interesting assertion indeed ("An uncontracted legacy registrant has certain rights at common law.”) – given the lack of determinations to that effect, you’ve entered some rather speculative territory.<br class="">
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Speculative beats zero.<br class="">
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Unless you're planning to change ARIN's quarter-century practice of<br class="">
risk aversion toward letting cases proceed to the point where a court<br class="">
sets a precedent about the shape of the pre-ARIN registrants' rights?</div>
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<chuckle> There are not a lot of folks willing to argue in a court that they have some hypothecated rights to ARIN’s registry database – particularly after the USG facilitated transition and specifically indicated that
<i class="">"Creation of ARIN will give the users of IP numbers (mostly Internet service providers, corporations and other large institutions) a voice in the policies by which they are managed and allocated within the North American region.” <<a href="https://www.nsf.gov/news/news_summ.jsp?cntn_id=102819" class="">https://www.nsf.gov/news/news_summ.jsp?cntn_id=102819</a>></i></div>
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<div class="">I know Owen remembers how far ARIN bent in Microsoft/Nortel to reach<br class="">
an agreement, any agreement, rather than let the court set precedent<br class="">
with respect to what it could do with Nortel's legacy registration.</div>
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Incorrect - ARIN has consistently defended our position that ARIN’s registry database will only be changed in accordance with community-developed policy – it’s an inherent portion of why we were established, as noted above. </div>
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<div>In the case of Norte/Microsoft, the parties agreed to condition the sale on compliance with ARIN’s policies and Microsoft’s entry into an RSA with ARIN – ARIN concurred only after this condition was established </div>
<div>Reference [In re Nortel Networks, Inc., No. 09-10138, KG 2011 WL 110098, Docket # 5315, at 4 (Bankr. D. Del. 2011) (assignee’s interest limited to exclusive right to use)]</div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>/John</div>
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<div>John Curran</div>
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<div>American Registry for Internet Numbers</div>
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