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<p>Going off-topic slightly...</p>
<p>There is a trend worldwide for NGOs, Charities, and other non-profits to steadily increase overhead (notably including executive compensation) to unsustainable levels. In this industry in particular we have the unfortunate example of Nominet.</p>
<p>I certainly don't expect John to disclose his entire compensation package, particularly on a public mailing list, and I am *NOT* saying this applies to ARIN - I have no idea if it does or not, and making such an accusation would require a ton more research and concrete evidence, none of which I care enough to do at the moment. (I'm pretty sure John doesn't take home the entire $4M line item!)</p>
<p>HOWEVER, if there's a way to proactively prevent ARIN from spiraling out of control (à la Nominet), that's an interesting idea. I don't think it needs to be addressed during the current consultation over fees. I don't have the impression that most stakeholders would support such a large change in scope at this late point in the consultation.</p>
<p>Especially since I don't know of any canned examples, best practices, etc. in this area that could be readily applied, I am not prepared to start discussing details on that the day this consultation closes!</p>
<p>I wouldn't mind seeing thoughts on this the _next_ time ARIN fees change.</p>
<p>For the record, while I'm not exactly happy about the new fees, I think the change is... reasonable. I can't think of any other set of changes that both meets ARIN's operational needs AND would be better accepted by the community than this set.</p>
<p>-Adam</p>
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<p>On 2021-05-10 14:11, Steve Noble wrote:</p>
<blockquote type="cite" style="padding: 0 0.4em; border-left: #1010ff 2px solid; margin: 0"><!-- html ignored --><!-- head ignored --><!-- meta ignored --> Per the latest 990N available (2018) 18% (4MM) of the money went to executives. ARIN is a non-profit. John's compensation is the highest (obviously).<br /> <br />
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<td class="tablenum">$3,979,666</td>
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<br /> <br /> <br /> <span>William Herrin wrote on 5/10/21 11:39 AM:</span><br />
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<pre>On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 9:47 AM John Curran <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jcurran@arin.net"><jcurran@arin.net></a> wrote:
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<pre>As noted earlier, ARIN provides many operational services for all of the resources in the registry – and these services are provided even for number resources that have no requests pending or when there are requests pending to change information but that lack proper documentation.
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<pre>Hi John,
Even if you include the policy process with the list and meetings (in
addition to the registry itself) in the "services" provided to an AS
number registrant, it seems to me that less than 10% of the end-user
AS number fees are spent on services with the rest spent on ARIN
overhead. If you disagree, I'd love to see a breakout of the
accounting as you figure it.
Perhaps there should be a cap on the portion of any fee which can be
applied to ARIN overhead costs? At the least, that might encourage
ARIN to keep overhead costs from rising out of proportion with the
direct services to individual registrants.
Regards,
Bill Herrin
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