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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Exactly so.<o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Brian Jones [mailto:bjones@vt.edu]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 02, 2018 2:38 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <arin-consult@arin.net> <arin-consult@arin.net><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Middleton, Stephen R <stephen.r.middleton@one.verizon.com>; David Farmer <farmer@umn.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ARIN-consult] [E] Re: Consultation on Orphaned Organization (Org) and Point of Contact (POC) Records<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">+1 We need a better understanding of what t is happening here and why before making decisions about deleting things. IMHO.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Brian E Jones, CSP-SM, CSP-PO<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">NI&S Virginia Tech<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Aug 2, 2018, at 11:05 AM, David Farmer <<a href="mailto:farmer@umn.edu">farmer@umn.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Yes, some of those are very much expected. However, there have been approximately 1500 transfers in the last year, which is less than 3% of the abandon organization in the
last year. So, something other than transfers accounts for the vast majority of abandoned organizations.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">I suspect reallocations and reassignments, but that is just a guess. If those </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">reallocations and reassignments were
for a year or so and this is just annual churn, that's fine. However, if these <span style="background:white">reallocations and reassignments were short-term, like weeks or months, then maybe we need to change some policies. Worse yet if the organizations
never had resources associated with them, then something seems broken somewhere. Maybe calling for even shorter-term garbage collection, like monthly. But, I wouldn't recommend going there without a better understanding of what and why this is happening.</span></span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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