<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 9:53 AM, Jason Schiller via ARIN-consult <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:arin-consult@arin.net" target="_blank">arin-consult@arin.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: Jason Schiller <<a href="mailto:jschiller@google.com">jschiller@google.com</a>><br>To: <a href="mailto:mcr@sandelman.ca">mcr@sandelman.ca</a><br>Cc: <a href="mailto:rlaager@wiktel.com">rlaager@wiktel.com</a>, "<<a href="mailto:arin-consult@arin.net">arin-consult@arin.net</a>>" <<a href="mailto:arin-consult@arin.net">arin-consult@arin.net</a>><br>Bcc: <br>Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 10:53:44 -0400<br>Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Orphaned Organization (Org) and Point of Contact (POC) Records<br><div dir="ltr">I think we can address a lot of these issues with a simple modification.<div><br></div><div>1. Don't purge an orphaned POC or OrgID if:</div><div>- it has POCs that have been validated in the last 24 months</div><div>- there is know ARIN interaction with the POC, OrgID in the last year.</div><div>- there has been known ARIN interaction with POCs or OrgIDs with a similar company name, or address.</div><div>- A warning email is sent to contact information on file, and a response was received asking to not delete it.</div></div></blockquote><div>- An ARIN Online account assoicated with the POC.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>2. Provide a process for easy restoration of a deleted POC or OrgID.</div><div><br></div><div>As Peter Harrison points out, we would need to sort out the details of this process.</div><div><br></div><div>__Jason</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 7:17 PM Michael Richardson <<a href="mailto:mcr@sandelman.ca" target="_blank">mcr@sandelman.ca</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Richard Laager <<a href="mailto:rlaager@wiktel.com" target="_blank">rlaager@wiktel.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Is there a way to keep a POC from being deleted orphaned, even though it<br>
>> might not have any current use?<br>
<br>
> Do you have a non-hypothetical example of why that might be desirable?<br>
<br>
Establishing and maintaining credentials that control a POC is a some amount<br>
of amount of work. Login, 2nd factor authentication, etc. I see no reason<br>
to have to start again.<br>
<br>
In the situation where I transfer all my assets elsewhere, and then for<br>
whatever reason, do not acquire new things for 25 months (maybe a non-compete<br>
agreement. Maybe a vacation. Maybe just not in the ISP business for awhile),<br>
I might want to just be able to ping my POC to keep it alive.<br>
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