<div dir="ltr">On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:19 AM, ARIN <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:info@arin.net" target="_blank">info@arin.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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foreseeable future. As previously described, we are acting on a
formal suggestion to consult with the community about the future
of RWhois support, and also have potential options with RDAP.<br></p>
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Of the three sub-delegation reporting methods listed
(SWIP, RWhois, RDAP), which should ARIN support in the future?<br></p></div></blockquote><div>Howdy,</div><div><br></div><div>The main problem I had with rwhois, way back when I ran rwhois, was that the software would crash after a few weeks and since nothing noticeable broke, I wouldn't realize it for a few months. Even if the software is now rock solid, something on the server hosting it will break. It's just not a first class element of the system.</div><div><br></div><div>On the other hand, SWIP is push-style database replication involving mismatched and custom pieces of software plus manual submissions. The probability of data synchronization problems approaches 1.</div><div><br></div><div>RDAP at least operates as an HTTP web app that can presumably be managed the same way you maintain availability of your other web servers.</div><div><br></div><div>In the far future, I think ARIN should support RDAP. Period. Getting from here to there in the intermediate term is another matter.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:-webkit-standard;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
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The existing RESTful API allows users to report (SWIP) one
sub-delegation at a time to be added to ARIN Whois. Should ARIN
add bulk-upload features to the RESTful API?<br></p></div></blockquote><div>Not necessary. If changes are happening in enough bulk for that to be needful, there's a programmer who needs a spanking.</div><div><br></div><div>On the other hand, if it's not available now then there should be a facility for a registrant to **bulk-download** all their SWIP entries at once for comparison with their local database. Otherwise data synchronization requires a nasty dance.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><ul style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:-webkit-standard;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><li>Question (RWhois specific):<span class="gmail-m_-1224515809088354251Apple-converted-space"> </span></li>
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As noted, RWhois servers are not referred to in an
automated fashion when users query ARIN Whois. Should ARIN
automate referrals to RWhois servers from ARIN's Whois service?<br></p></div></blockquote><div>If you keep rwhois then yes, of course. Caveat that by "automate" I mean publish the referral in a machine-readable form in the rwhois response, expect rwhois client software to follow it and make sure your own rwhois clients (e.g. on your web site) follow it. Last I checked (which was a very long time ago) ARIN did this brokenly: published both the referral and contradictory SWIP data which really confused things.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:-webkit-standard;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
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If ARIN was to allow the reporting of network
sub-delegation information using RDAP, associated enabling
software would be required. Should ARIN enable this method by
creating an RDAP software suite that would allow ARIN registrants
to run RDAP service locally?<br></p></div></blockquote><div>No. JSON over HTTP is easy enough to work with and writing appropriate interface modules should be the responsibility of the folks vending IPAM software. </div><div><br></div><div>On the other hand, curl --head <a href="http://rdap.org/ip/199.33.224.1">http://rdap.org/ip/199.33.224.1</a> lands at <a href="http://whois.arin.net/rest/ip/199.33.224.1">http://whois.arin.net/rest/ip/199.33.224.1</a> which does not output RDAP formatted results (XML != JSON), so there's some work to be done on ARIN's side just to report RDAP correctly with ARIN's own data.<br></div><br>Regards,<br>Bill Herrin<div><br></div></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature">William Herrin ................ <a href="mailto:herrin@dirtside.com" target="_blank">herrin@dirtside.com</a> <a href="mailto:bill@herrin.us" target="_blank">bill@herrin.us</a><br>Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <<a href="http://www.dirtside.com/" target="_blank">http://www.dirtside.com/</a>></div>
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