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line-height:19px; margin:0 0 4px 0;font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;word-break:break-word;">Board of Trustees</h2> <div class="card-description" style="font-size:11px;line-height:15px;color:#999;word-break:break-word;">ARIN Board of Trustees</div> </td> <td style="text-align:right;padding:16px 12px 16px 0;"> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </a></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146306"><br></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_145945"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_145944">Well, middle-aged white men certainly seem to be well-represented on the Board. Disproportionately, given the demographics of meeting attendees; the AC is more demographically representative.<br></span></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146016"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146017">Large ISPs, content providers, and CDNs are completely unrepresented.<br></span></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146015"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146416">Rural and Caribbean ISPs are unrepresented.</span></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146694"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146416">Address market participants are, as far as I can tell, unrepresented.<br></span></div><br><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146158"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146157">So, "middle-aged white men who can afford to spend several hours a week and a couple weeks a year not doing a day job" seems to be the primary representation. I would venture to say that that group is not "more equal" than others.<br></span></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146014"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146222"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_145796">> If the community feels that the viewpoint of a certain gender or homeland or skill set is valuable, it is free to choose <br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146322"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_145796">> whomever it wants to meet that need.</span></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146219"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146323">> I don’t know what could be “assured” to be “fairer” than that.</span></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146218"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> <br></span></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146325"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">It's called "the tyranny of the majority."<br></span></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146417"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146436">Even weirder than that, although I couldn't find a breakdown of members by country, I wonder whether Canada is disproportionately represented: 3 of 6 elected Board Members are Canadian. <br></span></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146608"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146436">If Americans distribute their votes among candidates but Canadians tend to vote for their clan, you get disproportionate representation. Whereas Caribbean members have a hard time finding someone to nominate (who can spare time from a day job), and may not have enough members that voting en bloc seats a Board member.<br></span></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146420"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146736"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">> Who chooses what groups are preferred?</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146755"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146756"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146757">The members. Right now they prefer "rich white guys."<br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146760" dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146757">I apologize to any Board members who do not identify as "rich," but you *do* have the flexibility to spend time on ARIN rather than on your day job, and you are all senior executives.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146877"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146757">I also recognize Merike, who is a Board member, and whose presence does not invalidate my point about voting patterns.<br></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146841"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146757"><br></span></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146502"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146892">> How are those groups defined?</span></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146771"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"><br></span></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146956"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146955">By the set of people nominated and forwarded by the NomCom. <br></span></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146957"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"><br></span></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_145804"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147017">> Who verifies inclusion in the groups?</span></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147028"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147017"><br></span></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147080"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147017">I'm making assumptions based on the group photo and bios of the Board on ARIN's site. John used to work for a large ISP, but that was a long time ago, and he is not elected.<br></span></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147081"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147017"><br></span></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_145818"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147016">> What prevents the proliferation of defined groups?</span></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146498"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> <br></span></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147096"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">I pointed out potential voting patterns above.</span></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147097"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"><br></span></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147015"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147014">> Any single one of those questions can only be answered with hours and hours of fraught debate and rulemaking. <br></span></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147100"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147014">> How can the Board make this decision without beforehand clearly answering the questions above?</span></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147392"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> <br></span></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147391"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Funny, I did it in ten minutes of writing an email.</span></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147130"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"><br></span></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147129"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147128">> Considering that the issues presented to the Board relate *<b>only to the registration of numbers</b>*, and that no <br></span></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147132"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147128">> evidence has been forthcoming that indicates the Board’s decisions have suffered from lack of diversity, what <br></span></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147133"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147128">> is the scope of the problem that would justify up-ending the principles of multi-stakeholderism?</span></div><div class="yiv7790912284yqt6696177384" id="yiv7790912284yqtfd65987"></div><div class="yiv7790912284yqt6696177384" id="yiv7790912284yqtfd05101"><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147127"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> <br></span></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147136"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147151">Leaving aside the rest of the political issues associated with "Internet governance" (and we shouldn't leave them aside), we have a Board that makes decisions about the AC's consensus judgments, fees, contracts, strategy, and budgets, based at best on information provided by the staff and the community, and not from personal knowledge. An advocate of an position is a better advocate if they have experience with the issue, and weaker if they only have second-hand knowledge.<br></span></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147334"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"><br></span></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147568"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147569">So far in this consultation, I have not actually expressed a position to the Board, but writing this convinced me I should:</span></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147539"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147538">I believe the Board does need greater diversity. Reserved seats (AfriNIC-style) might accomplish that. Annual diversity training for the NomCom might help. I don't have other suggestions, but I'm glad the Board is thinking about this.</span></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147610"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147538"><br></span></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147624"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147538">Lee</span></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147609"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147538"><br></span></div><div class="yiv7790912284MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147335"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"><br></span></div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>